Speaking of, I am looking forward to seeing Man Forever tonight, but I am wondering if they are going on first or what -- if it's MF, Tortoise, and Sea and Cake, I can't imagine that they're going to put MF last, so first makes sense, right? I don't want to miss it and I am going to be somewhere else beforehand.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
I also can't imagine pummelling noise sandwiched in the middle. Then again, who knows?
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
I have no idea who or what Man Forever is. I guess I assume they'd be first b/c ... who are they?
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
It'd be nice to be able to arrive late and skip "pummeling noise," but this is a "RSVP does not guarantee admittance" event, isn't it?
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thrilljockey.com/thrill/Man-Forever/
http://johncolpitts.bandcamp.com/
aka kid millions, drummer from oneida
he's inspired by steve reich -- i think you'll like it maybe?
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
it's layered rhythmic chaos -- it made me kinda uncomf at first, but he seems like a smart guy and i trust him not to suck
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, the magic words.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
why do you think i chose them?
decent interview here www.thestranger.com/seattle/eternal-drummer/Content?oid=15565503
Man Forever music is overwhelming in a minimalist way—it makes you want to charge headlong into the future and do good, meaningful stuff. "The Man Forever idea was meant to be this positive guy, a persona I created for Oneida a few years ago," Colpitts says. "It was about being positive about humanity. Because everybody thinks there's no hope, no way we can come together, we're going to destroy everything. Man Forever is a guy who believes that human beings can actually solve the problems we've created for ourselves." He chuckles. "Now it feels even more naive than it did six years ago."
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
also - this is a "RSVP does not guarantee admittance" event, isn't it?yes
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
So do you think that means it behooves us to get there early?
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
I emailed u
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
replied
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
FYI, when I saw Man Forever it was not that chaotic, loud, or noisy in any substantial ways. There are dissonances and strange beating patterns and certainly no melodies or riffs to latch onto, but it is more meditative and immersive than in-your-face. It may have changed since I saw them about 6 months ago, but he does rule-based pieces in which the musicians have to stick to a set approach, so again, it isn't wild and pummeling for the most part, just insistently somewhat intense due to the nature of the performance.
― grandavis, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
That sounds goooooood. I only know the recording, and I like immersive experiences so I am expecting nothing but the most enjoyable performance.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
I think a few of the CAVE guys will be part of Man Forever for this set.The thing about MF is that Kid just recruits people blindly for the performances and sometimes the players get what he is going for and sometimes they don't. The sets used to be all drummers, too, and I think that those performances edged into the "pummeling" zone a lot more than the ensemble thing he's doing now.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
But Cooper and Dan and Rex have performed with him multiple times, so if they are in the lineup it will be rehearsed.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
Oh man, I knew that there was a rotating cast but I did not know that it might rotate in that direction. What good news!
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, when I saw them it was members of Pelt and a bass player that has played with Kid/MF a number of times. They TOTALLY got it and it was a joy to behold (it would shift from vaguely menacing to euphoric to heavy just by the shifting of a couple notes by the non-drummers).
― grandavis, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Here's something like an orientation video for possible members of Man Forever, which gives a pretty good sense of what he's going for. It's a little long but I found it fascinating/entertaining.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
So...did anyone get in? I sure didn't. I was super disappointed/pissy at first, but it faded.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Friday, 21 December 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
btw i was there before 8, but still no luckO WELL
― passion it person (La Lechera), Friday, 21 December 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
Yuck, I kinda wondered about that. Seemed like too good a show to be both free and easy to get into. Guess I made a solid call on a number of levels.
― Poop Song 89 (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 December 2012 06:15 (eleven years ago) link