sarah palin to thread
does willful impotence count
more importantly, why am i listening to spacemen 3 on last.fm
― ?????? (unregistered), Sunday, 21 September 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link
What does willful impotence mean exactly?
― Tuomas, Sunday, 21 September 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link
obstinate contraception
― !!!!!! (unregistered), Sunday, 21 September 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Tantric sex?
― The Accountant Of Taste (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 21 September 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link
er that shoulda been obstinate celibacy rather
damn thread title's got me oh-so confused
cross+post, natch
― ++++++ (unregistered), Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link
withdrawal worked for me
― the bridge to erewhon (velko), Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link
when
― ?????? (unregistered), Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link
for about 15 years
― the bridge to erewhon (velko), Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link
- celibacy (voluntary)- celibacy (involuntary)- homosexuality
contraception is not needed in these situations
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
As someone is involved from the other end can I vote nuva ring FTW. Seems to be the least hassle for all involved.
― Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Sunday, 21 September 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
withdrawal rocks
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
uh oh TMI
yeah it really worked for you guys!!!!
jk
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
right on
― !!!!!! (unregistered), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
haha. its like gambling with the odds v slightly in your favor!
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
plus mandatory cs on something
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
^^otm
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
does anyone use the pills made to be taken continuously such as seasonique or lybrel? maybe i could start a thread about this. thinking baout things.
― lil yawne (harbl), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Hang on... I'm just trying to get my head around the logic behind this.
Contraception = trying to avoid pregnancy.
So you say that abstinence is simply not a contraceptive method. Despite vast amounts of money being poured into "sex education" in the US that claims abstinence is the *only* contraceptive method.
Are we quibbling about words here (that abstinence may be birth control, but isn't technically contraceptive because no sex was involved) or is the political/ideological nastiness of the latter of those two options above making you throw out the entire idea that it could be used as a form of birth control?
I mean, granted, I didn't choose to be celibate *solely* with the aim of avoiding pregnancy, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a big plus. (It's 100% effective, after all.)
I'm certainly NOT advocating or promoting it as an option for anyone else - but I think it's naive - and perhaps politically motivated - to say that it's *not* an option at all.
(I mean, perhaps my annoyance is based on those yearly checkups where the doctor always asks me "what contraception are you using" and I say "celibacy" and she says "nope, that's not an option on my list and I have to check something." That this is somehow inconceivable as an option for a healthy woman of child-bearing age.)
― The Accountant Of Taste (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
A: that abstinence may be birth control, but isn't technically contraceptive because no sex was involved
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I dont think anyone says abstinence is the only contraceptive. Its more like abstinence is the only way to be 100% sure you wont get pregnant.
Its an option but i wouldnt call it a contraceptive method.
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I was under the impression that US right wing bible bangers had been shoving it down kids throats along with Intelligent Design. I guess I gotta stop reading those liberal newspapers and stuff. Ha ha!
― The Accountant Of Taste (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
They have and they do, but it's more like Rock Hardy says. And they don't give out info on the other types.
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
That's just plain dumb and counterproductive. Argh.
― The Accountant Of Taste (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 21 September 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't remember what I said, but I'm sure it was OTM.
― Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 21 September 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
My own answer is vasectomy. That shit hurt! (But not as bad as having a baby, I'm sure.)
― Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 21 September 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
tell me about this nuvaring thing! side effects? have just gone off the pill again because i kept forgetting to take it, plus i hate the is-this-making-me-mental-or-not feeling when i'm on it (i.e. is it just shit going on in my life or is this fake hormone making everything feel 10x worse than it should).
i looked at the website (this thing is not even available in NZ) and it sounds great, but i'm always dubious about anything containing hormones.
― your ass is (Rubyredd), Sunday, 21 September 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Side effects are next to nil (I had none when I used it) because the hormone dose is HELLA low. It doesn't have to have much, cause it doesn't need to travel dar in your body, basically.
I have had side effects (mainly just zombie or robot "feelings") while on every other hormonal method.
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
the problem with pill side effects for me is that they're not blatantly obvious and come on slowly, so i don't realise the change till i go off it (eg. i'm managing my anxiety/stress/etc about living in a new country much better since i went off it). i hadn't been on the pill for about 2 yrs and went back on right before i came to the US... pretty fucking stupid plan, really, but i procrastinated. so then i didn't know if it was this new pill fucking me up or the fuck that i was uprooting my whole life.
― your ass is (Rubyredd), Sunday, 21 September 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Tough to tell in most situations with that stuff, yeah. Just ride it out.
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link
lol 'the fuckfact that i was uprooting my whole life'
― your ass is (Rubyredd), Monday, 22 September 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link
haha i read it that way anyways
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link
haha..me too
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 22 September 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i know a couple girls who went on the nuvaring and couldnt stop crying for days and days so... ymmv
― Mohammed Butt (max), Monday, 22 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
IUD and cervical cap are not the same thing. Isn't a cervical cap similar to a diaphragm?
― I'm right right and you're wrong left (Susan), Monday, 22 September 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost, I don't think that's an expected side effect of...anything.
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
AAAAGGHH, IUD and Cervical Cap were supposed to be on different lines!!!!
And yeah, a cervical cap is similar to a diaphragm, but thicker, rubber and fits directly, snugly over your cervix.
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i havent been on the pill since 04 but even then it was only for 2 months. before that i think it was early 90s. i become a complete whiney bitch when im on the pill.
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
well im always kind of a whiney bitch so lets super whiney super bitch
plus i dont give a shit about shorter periods. who cares.
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i've been pretty emotional on it, but there's been some mega shit going down so it's hard to tell wtf is up anyway
i doubt it's pill-related, though. it's low-dose (mircette). I was on a very high dose BC method (depo) long ago, and it just made me cold and emotionless.
xpost otm, mine's like 3 days tops anyways
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
one of life's biggest lols is that BCs often lower your sex drive
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm all about no periods. this is one of the reasons I took the pill for so long. But so far I have had no periods with my IUD either.
― I'm right right and you're wrong left (Susan), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean, we can land a fucking man on the moon
xpost
― ○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
hey how long have you had an IUD and which kind do you have, susan?
i thought they banned iuds years ago because it was make ladies infertile. i guess theyve fixed them since then. don't all you non period chicks worry that its screwing up your fertility should you want babbies down the road?
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Nah, it doesn't hurt you at all not to have a period, look at the observant Jews -- they stay pregnant or breastfeeding pretty much their entire adult lives, and it doesn't seem to stop them from having 11 children each.
I back the ring 100% but I just went off it because I miss the hormonal high of ovulation, when every masculine characteristic in the world looks magical. Keeps life interesting.
― Laurel, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Have researched IUDs but it seems the new ones are also hormonal in nature, there's at least a little bit of hormonal affect in addn to the chemical (copper or whatev). I think if I were going through the pain/discomfort of having an IUD inserted, I'd want to be totally artificial hormone-free...?
― Laurel, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
they still use copper? i thought the copper was the problem?
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Monday, 22 September 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
The problem was, I think, only with one brand (the Dalkon Shield) and had to do with the string or stem that protrudes from the uterus, and the kind of string they were using could harbor bacteria and give it a way to travel erm, up. At least that's my understanding. Nothing to do with copper that I'm aware of.
― Laurel, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Naw I am not worried! Thanks for the encouragement tho.
― rittah shpoaht (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I have been without birth control for a couple months now due to...boring stuff...and it will be v nice not to live in fear of OH SHIT A BABY.
I loooooove mine even though I don't need it anymore; I'm keeping that prize-catch right where it is since it's good for 10 years!
Insertion was a total, total bitch for me, but then I pretty much have never had cramps (I have, but rly mildly and briefly so compared to normal people, I basically haven't) so it's possible I just wasn't prepared for anything to hurt so much in that place.
Get the mistoprostol/whatever-the-generic-brand-is right away if you haven't had kids yet, you all probs remember I had to try three times and I was miserable. Pressures/failure of rel'ship also partly to blame, though.
Once it's in there, life becomes SO MUCH EASIER!!! Periods still kinda wacky but I'm getting the hang of it.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I got the Mirena because I was betting on my periods tapering off after awhile. Oh-ho, not so! They are now startlingly regular. Like, every 4th Sunday at 9:15PM regular.
― kate78, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh shit, really? :/ Do you get cramps?
― ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Nothing too bad and it's a pretty short/light ordeal so whatever. I wish they didn't happen at all but it's a small price to pay for my barren, sterile existence.
― kate78, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
lol very true
― ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Double checked & it is both the IUD & insertion that is covered. I have an appt at the very end of April.
― Looking Man (Abbbottt), Monday, 21 March 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Congrats on your insurance functioning like it ideally should!! You are living the American dream.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 21 March 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I need to find a pill that isnt Bad to Take as a smoker, and I dont think there is such a beast. Doc said I could have Implanon ok, so I got that a couple of years back, and THWACK, my libido went through the floor and dug for china. Also I got pretty emotionless. At first I thought I was just blaming relationship slackness on it, but I went off it and everything snapped back into view within weeks.
Fuck if I can find a pill that doesnt mess with my moods, ugh. And no way am I ever going for an IUD or anything *crosses legs and winces*.
― bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Monday, 21 March 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
you can do progesterone-only pills, but you'd likely have the same libido-lowering effects that you experienced before. You really need to come off of estrogen after 35 if you're smoking, though.
― kate78, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link
So my iud is coming out and I need to go have it yanked and replaced today. What fun!
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 15 December 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
Aw shit E, that sucks.
I'm recently off the pill and not sure how I'm feeling about it.
Contraception: damned if you do, damned if you don't.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 December 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Having an IUD taken out is a cakewalk, so that part, at least, should be easy.
― carl agatha, Monday, 15 December 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah. This is my second. The last one I got out I was like "Wait, it's out?". It's the reinsertion I'm not looking forward to.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 15 December 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that is no fun.
― carl agatha, Monday, 15 December 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
ugh it's been about 2.5 months and still i'm dealing with all the bullshit of of a mirena. it's not a big deal but boy am i looking forward to not bleeding one day in the hopefully near future.
― just1n3, Monday, 15 December 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
I have been putting off having a new mirena inserted because that shit is unpleasant as fuuuuuuck.
― kate78, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
yeah it was pretty fuckin painful (the insertion but also the depth-checking thing). but, TMI ALERT, after using condoms for 6 yrs with my husband i'd forgotten how incredibly better/different condomless sex is. wish i'd had one put in years ago - totally worth the 15 secs of terrible agony.
― just1n3, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
So I was right, it was partially expelled. She couldn't actually feel it in my cervix but trusted me enough to suggest we take it out and insert a new one. As soon as she pulled even a little the stem (i dont know what else to call it) came out and she was like, "oh yeah, that sucker was lodged in your cervix and the t part was resting on the bottom not the top". She put another in and yeah it really sucked for about a minute but I'm not feeling too bad now.
While there I had blood drawn to check my AMH and FSH levels just to kind of get a general idea of what my egg reserve is looking like.
http://www.rmanj.com/2013/09/anti-mullerian-hormone-amh-testing-of-ovarian-reserve/http://www.advancedfertility.com/day3fsh.htm
It'll be interesting to get the results. Not sure what I'll do either way but it'll be interesting nevertheless.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
:/ Getting one put in around early February, probably.
― ljubljana, Monday, 29 December 2014 10:48 (nine years ago) link
It's really not that bad, just annoying.
― just1n3, Monday, 29 December 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link
Yeah this newest one was annoying for a couple days but I haven't had any problems since.
I got the results of those two tests back and I'm still "optimally fertile" as measured by both. While they don't measure egg quality they do give an indication of quantity so basically it looks like I have plenty left which is good to know, I guess.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 29 December 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
E, how did you know yours was coming out? Just string length? I'm super paranoid bc ican't tell if I'm imagining my strings are longer or not - the np never told me like "ok icut the strings two inches in"or anything, and they've been twisted up.
― just1n3, Monday, 29 December 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
I checked for the strings absentmindedly (never really do regularly) and felt the hard plastic from the bottom part of the IUD right at the opening of my cervix. The doc said the strings were very long but I hadn't noticed that. The hard plastic was unmistakable though.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
that reminds me of one of my favorite things ever said on ilx
Birth Control: Advice and Anecdotes
― vigetable (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
xp ok good to know - no plastic poking out yet!!
― just1n3, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
thank you, thank you very much, xpost
― kate78, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 06:56 (nine years ago) link
I never updated what happened with my IUD a year and a half ago because I didn't want to freak anyone/everyone out buuuuuttttt, it turns out that it hadn't turned around and poked through my cervix, but the t part of it had actually perforated my uterus and was poking out the top of it (way to read that CT scan, doc!). They said it probably happened when it was inserted 4.5 years earlier. I had no adverse side effects, no crazy cramping or bleeding, didn't get knocked up, and it came out super-easily, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― kate78, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 07:03 (nine years ago) link
(my original post referencing this is upthread of LL's link)
― kate78, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 07:05 (nine years ago) link
they original dr didn't do an ultrasound to check the placement once it was first inserted??
― just1n3, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
none of mine ever have
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
i think that perforations usual cause a lot of immediate bleeding and mine inserts over 300 a year and the ultrasound isn't standard practice for her.
Kaiser is mostly shit but the np did do an ultrasound to make sure she'd placed it correctly.
― just1n3, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, u/s after insertion is not standard of care. Most of the time, it's gonna be in the right spot.
― kate78, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
@jiatolentinoBehind every successful woman is 14 even more successful women texting her "Stay strong you're gonna be so glad you got the IUD"
― mookieproof, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link