Finally Rich - Chief Keef

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here's a rhetorical question to ponder: how come there has been no articles this week talking about the relationship between sandy hook elementary school & the new album by the rapper T.I., who once tried to illegally purchase an artillery of machine guns? hmmmmm i wonder

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

And also sold double what keef did

D-40, Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

TOPICS: CHICAGO, CHIEF KEEF, RAP, DRILL RAP, HIP-HOP, GUNS, GANGS, GANG VIOLENCE, EDITOR'S PICKS, ENTERTAINMENT NEWS, NEWS

epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

no NEWTOWN or SANDY HOOK tho weirdly enough

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

most of whom were subsequently hyped through photo spreads and features on a handful of online sites: the Fader, Fake Shore Drive, Stereogum and Pitchfork.

epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

THIS IS THE SAME FUCKING GUY THAT WROTE THE TAYLOR SWIFT STORY

epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

oh god i knew the name sounded familiar but i could not remember why

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link

glad he's taken that leap from sexism to racism in just five weeks

epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link

actually, to be fair to dude, his editor write that subhead and there's nothing in the story about it

epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link

so i take the racism thing back

epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link

T.I. also has a huge gun on his album cover.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Thursday, 20 December 2012 08:26 (eleven years ago) link

you killed that finally famous review, j0rd

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

link? please?

pandemic, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

ah, spin, got it.here

pandemic, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

straight to the "he's like waka" well eh

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait for deej to go line by line responding to it like the oatmeal guy

finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

If I didn't know better I'd have taken ""Hate Bein' Sober," the upcoming mega-single" as a shout-out to some dude.

pandemic, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

"hate bein' sober" is meant to be on the level of "stuntin' like my daddy" and "in da club"? LOL

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

lol pandemic

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

the positive reviews of this are almost as much of an "i hear what i want to hear" rorschach test as the pans

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

yes i will admit "upcoming mega-single" is a bit wishful thinking

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

"hate bein' sober" is meant to be on the level of "stuntin' like my daddy" and "in da club"? LOL

― lex pretend, Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

get ya mind correct

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

feel like you and i have very different definitions of "pop rap" when you talk about this album

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

"you know, pop rap! MC Hammer, The Black Eyed Peas, Crime Mob"

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

even "in da club" style pop rap!

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

"you know, pop rap! MC Hammer, The Black Eyed Peas, Crime Mob"

― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well i think that's a very narrow definition (i would call black eyed peas "pop") & finally rich is waayyy more pop than crime mob. i didn't call 'back from the dead' pop when i first reviewed it cuz it's not... this album is diff tho

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

how is any song on this record more pop than "knuck if you buck" aside from featuring actual pop rappers like wiz khalifa and 50 cent

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

i was only really lukewarm to 'lollipop' when it came out then over the next few years it got promoted to personal jam status and now it seems like a landmark record rilly. dope review j0rdz. this record is dripping in pop, why fight it. 'kay kay' is my fucking shit.

tpp, Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah great review

flopson, Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

peep the comments though:

Drake December 20th, 2012 at 04:14 PM

I agree with half this shit, but Chief Keef is bad. it's that simple. good for him becoming rich. no problem with that. but to keep claiming all of these critics are racist is your lousy back up. They aren't racist. Chief Keef is not innovative, and apparently not very intelligent. He networked and got a good promotions team. Saying he's great is like saying every modern hip hop collective (A$AP, OF, etc..) are good. Just because there is a team that knows how to manipulate its audience doesn't mean the artist is talented.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

good for him becoming rich. but what took him so long?

k3vin k., Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

lol

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

the positive reviews of this are...an "i hear what i want to hear" rorschach test

in fairness this is so generally true of pop crit right now across all genres big & small that it's kind of interesting how this album seems to be coming under special scrutiny about it

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, the more there's a cultural narrative around an album and the higher the "stakes" feel to people, the easier it is to focus on anything but what it actually sounds like

2 Celloz (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

which artists tend also to play to their advantage imo

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

easier still to imagine a great self-deception in people liking something you refuse or are unable to engage with

r|t|c, Friday, 21 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

"Love Sosa" entered the Hot 100 this week.

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think people who love this record are lying to themselves, i just think they have a high tolerance for monotone offbeat rapping

nobody's bitch speaks again (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

aero otm

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

i wouldn't say monotone, what stands out to me is that half the time keef is most of the way to singing, but it's always the same three note melody.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

add this guy to my kinda-long list of Guys Whose Music Is Interesting To Talk About But To Me Not Very Interesting To Hear, a list about which I have conflicting emotions

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw re: sh1pl3y's complaints i actually think he has a pretty masterful sense of rhythm cf 1:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4hIkqPteY&feature=youtu.be

D-40, Monday, 31 December 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4hIkqPteY

D-40, Monday, 31 December 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

how you hear that as a masterful sense of rhythm is completely beyond me musically. it sounds like he did that a capella and then it was later cut in as near the beat as was possible. like I would be genuinely interested, if you're up for it, how that's masterful - there's a long and great tradition in say toasting of throwing in triplets, runs of 16th-notes/syllables, etc, over a straight 4/4, so the voice is essentially serving as both percussion and vocal and it sounds like maybe that's what he's trying to do? but he doesn't pull it off at all imo. like when he says "sad stories like soapbox/you ain't no gangster Tupac" - it's like he's just not listening very hard for how those would fall in with the beat. however props to him for the Xiu Xiu reference in the next line

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 31 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that youtube as a rebuttal is hilarious

some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I was really looking forward to some crazed irregular-rhythm tuplets like you get in harp and piano music so actually getting "I'm a 32-note late on every entrance like a hesitant singer who isn't sure where the beat or the note is" was kind of a letdown

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Monday, 31 December 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

i don't have a great handle on pitch or theory so when you talk about a lot of vocal stuff i take your word for it, but it genuinely surprises me when anybody with ears can't seem to get a handle on how rhythm works and whether a performance is on or off the beat

some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

kind of get the impression that keef does that deliberately, or at least whether he's *able* to rap on beat or not, his general strategy for approaching it is deliberate and in keeping w/the rest of his persona

lex pretend, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's part of his persona to not both doing a 2nd take, but i don't know if he realizes or cares what his performance might gain if he took another pass with the beat turned up louder in his headphones

some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link


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