Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

my running list of dudes that are totally boring new agey guitar player magazine type bullshit you should avoid:

Sergio Altamura
Antoine Dufour (i don't know why i even bothered once i saw the song title "Spiritual Groove (Live)")

but i was kinda ehhh, because it was sooooo blackshaw-esque

yeah, definitely get that impression watching some older clips. got his most recent album and he seemed to be playing a lot higher up the fretboard and chucking in lots of harmonics so it had more of a steffen basho junghans feel. it's okay! but yes, not frollicking naked in wild new fields of discovery

tbh most of the stuff in this thread is probably going to be more evolutionary than revolutionary

yeah, totally

Yeah, had been told about Turnquist by a friend of mine, and I really like that. I like that he has a somewhat maximalist sonic approach, i.e., a lot of open strings and overtones/harmonics going on (and the fast rolls with the fingerpicking), but the melodic movement and chording are pretty minimal. Guess I should listen to more Blackshaw, whom I haven't delved into very deeply yet.

Wow, that drone segment at the end of that Jack Rose video is actually quite astounding. I thought he was using an effect at first, but it really just seems like just his lap slide.

http://youtu.be/vqOTeMGwsYE
this guy is good -- need to pick up his record... i think he's the guy who did that work hard, play hard box set for tompkins square too?

That is good, hadn't listened to him before.

Reminds me of Micah Blue Smaldone's instrumental stuff (touches of more traditional old-time/ragtime type stuff), though Micah writes a lot of vocal downer stuff as opposed to being largely instrumental, which is what has been popping up on this thread. All finger-picking though, worth checking out. Friend of the Cerberus Shoal/Big Blood crew of folks from Maine.

Nathan's "Affirmed" album is great and so is his album of duso with James Elkington.

duos, that is.

yeah checking Affirmed out now. sounds great.
it is kind of interesting w/ these guitar players and the more ragtime-y stuff they all seem to get into sooner or later. it's sort of the least "cool" sounding stuff (not to say I don't like it). is there something technically challenging about playing in that way that draws them to that style?

ok, yeah, this salsburg album is stellar! dig the one vocal track too...

wow this is really great thanks tyler!

btw this horribly album covered peter lang record from 2003 is pretty good!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/GuitarPeterLang.jpg

one of the ppl that come up on nathan salsburg's "related artists" on Spotify....#swag

http://img.mp3rally.com/imager/w_500/h_/12acd7dd26092cdfdb8077214cca31d3.jpg

the james elkington/nathan salsburg album is on spotify, really gorgeous

yeah checking that one out next!
guitar jock! intense, showin off the back of the amp. so raw.

just had that bitch re-tubed

scariest thing is, give me ten years and i will look exactly like that dude.

listening to will ackerman right now on spotify

this....isn't that bad....

i may have crossed some very important line

maneli jamal, new guy i guess iranian by way of belarus and austin TX...some of his stuff is a bit too technical and kinda saccharine for my taste but he's super talented

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69MJ4UGzvl4

also found this fingerstyle label candyrat but it (and jamal) sort of have the music school/guitar mag stench about them

http://candyrat.com/

Man, you are doing some work. There is a fine line, and seemingly a LOT of folks who get technical chops of the fingerstyle variety.

yeah it's kinda hard to find stuff that hits that perfect middle ground between indie rock dudes playing dress-up and session dudes new age jacking off stuff

Saw Daniel Bachman live recently, and I gotta say it was a real treat. He is still so young so I am sure he is gonna just get better and better, but despite the songs sounding pretty similar there was a real momentum to all of them and he was just a pleasure to watch. A couple of the songs were close to transcendant, especially his thumb picking. Just a super-nice guy as well.

Can't listen to that guy specifically b/c Youtube is blocked at my work but as far as I know, Candyrat records is overall fairly shite. Pretty sure that 'slapp'n and tappn' stuff would have no traction if it weren't for Youtube. It seems more clever when you can *watch* it because it's technically impressive and they do "crazy" stuff like harmonics and slapping the body of the guitar, but there isn't too much there musically, overall pretty toothless.

^^ where did you see Bachmann? Saw Nathan Bowles recently along w/ the Black Twig pickers recently, was a real good show. The Twigs in particular just looked to be having so much fun, was infectious.

I mean, I'm not normally one to judge a book by its cover (I am) but this pretty much says it all right here:

http://candyrat.com/artists/AdamBenEzra/Openland/cover_large.jpeg

Mike Dawes : Somebody That I Used To Know (Gotye)
Acoustic Guitar
A stunning solo arrangment of Gotye's popular tune, "Somebody That I Use To Know". Played without any overdubs.

And yes nthing the Bowles record, makes me want to learn Clawhammer, and quick.

i didn't get to see bowles :(

yeah honestly this candy rat site is a waste of time

listening to the new bachman, this is great

upper mississippi, that dude is touring all the time. Go see him, I am sure he will come to your city in the next year. Hope to see Bowles, he only lives a few hours from me (missed him here with Bachman and Mark Fosson cause I was outta town, which is just fucking wrong, the show I wanted to see most last year!).

global, I saw Bachman in Charlottesville, Virginia, where I live. I think we are now officially on his circuit, which is cool. I think he is back here in April, which means he will have played here 3 time in 6 months, which is cool with me. He is from Fredericksburg, which is a little over an hour away.

Bachman/Fosson/Bowles? That's killer, would love to see that! Bowles was good, but he seemed a bit tired, as it was 10am and they'd played a show earlier. He had a few hiccups due to a rickety banjo. Record comes across much better than his live show suggested to me. Some really good moments, though.

Seems like the VA area is a hotbed for this sort of stuff. A lot of the past and present notables hail from around there. Proximity to the deeper south that does it?

man it would be cool to try to book a show in mpls with bachman, maybe get peter lang out and spider john koerner or charlie parr to bring out ppl

Found a Bachman release on Spotify I was unawares of, Oh Be Joyful? Skimming it now, a lot of it sounds very similar to the material on Seven Pines. It's cool he's got a very distinct 'style' but I sorta wish there were a bit more variety... for some reason I'm attached to Seven Pines, so since they seem very similar (maybe I'm wrong?) I'll probably jam that one from now on until something newer comes out.

One of my favorites of his is "With Signs Following", awesome drone style track, has a different feel to me than a lot of his stuff. Feels a bit more improvised, and I like that. And whatever's producing those overtones... dig it

Also: Ooooh, that would be a show! Holy shit! Lang has mentioned he was looking to get back into music on some level, and I believe Spider John played this past Sunday? And Charlie Parr is a pretty prolific performer. Sounds pretty feasible, however I know nothing of booking, nothing beyond that I'd definitely be there if/when it came to fruition.

yeah i'm friends w/the booker at the turf, could be possible...parr would just be good because i think he has a fairly consistent draw...lang has played some shows in the last couple years, sporadically

have you ever seen spider john? kind of crazy to be in the same room as the guy you know, and he's still good

i felt very lucky to have seen koerner, ray, and glover at the 400 bar while everyone was still living

Yeah, Virginia has a long history with this stuff. I think it is just naturally part of the culture (parts of Virginia are very southern still). Mike Gangloff (Pelt, Black Twig Pickers etc.) actually goes around Virginia and West Virginia learning songs directly from folks. Really cool seeing a solo Gangloff show, in which he plays solo fiddle and banjo tunes with stories in between about the songs. He also writes some very cool originals. Highly recommend trying to see him if you are into that kind of thing.

bachman live show on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mPSZ_DaIJU

jeez he's just a little kid!

Yeah, Bachman is 21 or 22 or something, which is nuts to me. Really humble about his playing, can tell he wants to take it a lot farther, which is great. Excited to see where he goes with it.

man how talented, wow

Cool thread. I made a spotify list of everything mentioned (or close to it anyway) so far.

http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/2WNjL5jGiUHaSu5CFkN9Xg

I watched Doyle Dykes at the NAMM show a couple days ago. He's kind of incredible.

Spottie! :-) welcome

not sure if he quite fits in here, but i listened to this recent instrumental record by chris forsyth and it's pretty rad, kind of a fairport convention / popol vuh thing happening
http://soundcloud.com/chris-forsyth/sets/paranoid-cat-1

That Chris Forsyth record is very cool (imo), and I think it fits here as far as what I want to get out of this thread. We posted a bunch about him in the rolling psych/drone 2012 thread, but this thread is dealing more with guitar-centric records of note (I think?) and he fits the bill. In league with the Dean McPhee but more expansive. I think Chris and Steve Gunn do similar stuff on an electric when they play with other musicians, and I like them both quite a bit. Think they each have some great records ahead of them.

listening to forsyth now really good!

spottie thanks for making the playlist, very helpful

Yeah glad to help. I have been into Blackshaw for over 5 years but have never really looked into this type of stuff too far beyond that. Got into that William Tyler a bit last year, though.

Hey, which Blackshaw record would be the best one to dive into? I have heard select songs that I liked, but I have no idea what albums they were from. I know he does some piano-based stuff, but I am most interested in his guitar playing, at least as a starting off point.

either 'The Cloud of Unknowing' or 'O True Believers'

I like Cloud just ever so slightly ahead of Believers but both are great.