OTM. Also, applause for soloists in the middle of jazz shows, before the song is over.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:18 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ARRRG this drives me fucking nuts. I always wonder if the next soloist is thinking, "Yeah, I'll just phone it in until the applause for the previous solo dies down and you can actually hear me, thanks."
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.allyourjazz.com/2009/12/jazz-etiquette-what-to-do-how-to-react-at-a-jazz-concert/
(1) Clapping after EACH solo is fine; however keep the clapping to a minimum. Now, that isn’t to say that musicians want to hear golf claps; rather keep the length of the clap brief. This is mostly because the music is still going, and the end of a solo could be an important transition to the next part of the song. This is in contrast with the classical or operatic clap which involves profuse bowing on the part of the performer and many curtain calls. (2) In general, when there are multiple soloists playing right after the other, there is a progression where the lead or featured musician will be going last. This means there is generally a progression in the volume of the clapping, starting with moderate and ending in a loud. Keep in mind, though, that you should still refrain from any sustained clapping beyond 4 to 5 seconds.(3) Yelling is generally not the best way to respond after a solo, although the occasional “yeah” or “woo-hoo” can be heard. Let us just point out that this is generally done by those you know the artists personally or who are at least a regular to jazz concerts. When going to your first couple of gigs, you might not want to be the first person to do this. In short, refrain from verbal outbursts or anything that might involve a spotlight being place on you.(4) The avid jazz listener and frequent guest at jazz gigs will often let you a short comment or even a small clap IN THE MIDDLE of the solo. The reason for this is that they usually hear something in the solo that is very notable and common in jazz – “the quote.” Musicians like to quote themselves and each other, and what this means is that they might throw in a short reference to “pop goes the weasel” or other famous lick mid-solo. Not only is it creative and entertains the crowd with their musicality and musical ability, but it can even quote a musician who has used that line before (maybe even in the same song). For beginners, don’t worry about this. Let the regulars handle this, and don’t feel offended if it happens.One last bit about applause. The noobie might perceive the “post-solo” clapping to be short and disrespectful, but it is well received. It is enough to hear response and know that the audience is with them, and at the same time, they know the rest of the song can keep going without thunderous applause or other interruption.
(2) In general, when there are multiple soloists playing right after the other, there is a progression where the lead or featured musician will be going last. This means there is generally a progression in the volume of the clapping, starting with moderate and ending in a loud. Keep in mind, though, that you should still refrain from any sustained clapping beyond 4 to 5 seconds.
(3) Yelling is generally not the best way to respond after a solo, although the occasional “yeah” or “woo-hoo” can be heard. Let us just point out that this is generally done by those you know the artists personally or who are at least a regular to jazz concerts. When going to your first couple of gigs, you might not want to be the first person to do this. In short, refrain from verbal outbursts or anything that might involve a spotlight being place on you.
(4) The avid jazz listener and frequent guest at jazz gigs will often let you a short comment or even a small clap IN THE MIDDLE of the solo. The reason for this is that they usually hear something in the solo that is very notable and common in jazz – “the quote.” Musicians like to quote themselves and each other, and what this means is that they might throw in a short reference to “pop goes the weasel” or other famous lick mid-solo. Not only is it creative and entertains the crowd with their musicality and musical ability, but it can even quote a musician who has used that line before (maybe even in the same song). For beginners, don’t worry about this. Let the regulars handle this, and don’t feel offended if it happens.
One last bit about applause. The noobie might perceive the “post-solo” clapping to be short and disrespectful, but it is well received. It is enough to hear response and know that the audience is with them, and at the same time, they know the rest of the song can keep going without thunderous applause or other interruption.
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
otoh I agree with you guys
well i'm never going to a jazz show now
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
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― Suggest Banlieue (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't think there was a way to suck the fun and excitement out of jazz, but there it is: For beginners, don’t worry about this. Let the regulars handle this, and don’t feel offended if it happens.
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
That site should probably just be called suckingthefunandexcitementoutofjazz.com
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
do not make eye contact with other jazz goers or musicians, or draw any kind of attention to your presence at all, or the concert will come to a screeching halt and you will be fired up on by snipers.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Is this the Irrationally Angry or Irrationally Embarrassed thread? I'm now confused.
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
please refrain from enthusiasm of any kind. you are a beginner, you couldn't possibly appreciate jazz until you have been to at least nine hundred concerts. beat it, loser.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
xp We were embarrased then we got angry the more we thought about it.
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
Etiquette shmetiquette. Seriously, long lists of rules about how one should and should not approach/appreciate art really get my dander up. Sorry to use such rough language.
― Oral Kiosk (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
no schmoffense taken
― clouds, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Old Lunch OTM. I want to punch whoever wrote that "jazz" "etiquette" piece. Any guidance beyond "listen" is suspect.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
i'm embarrassed on the behalf of the person who wrote ithow boring and uncomfortable it must be to be that person
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
was taught in middle school that one applauds a jazz solo and one does not applaud between movements of an orchestral work
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
jazz is kind of embarrassing overall
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Irrational fear of buying toilet paper, especially in high quantities. It's never Happened, but I keep fearing the store clerk that will wrinkle his brow, look at me with a broad grin, and ask "So, Poopin tonight, eh?".
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Avoid this situation by requesting toilet paper anytime a flatmate/friend asks if you want anything from the shop. It really pisses people off
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
I used to be the designated toilet paper buyer for the shared house I lived in, and I had absolutely no fear about rocking up to the supermarket checkout with two jumbo 9 roll packs.
― I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Then I'd have to hide like four rolls in my room, so that we didn't suddenly run out.
― I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'm super-awkward about making appointments and scheduling maintenance in my home. Toilet paper buying, not really.
― mh, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
i was once designated to purchase tampons -- as i was scanning the shelves looking for the correct item, a woman hi-fived me
(this was not embarrassing, just unusual)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
aw
― mh, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
hearing people, usually drunk, talk in fake english accents.
― akm, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, unless you're, like, fourteen and buying them for your mom, I never understood the embarrassment of buying tampons as a dude. I mean, clearly they aren't for you. Unless it's some gynophobic thing I don't get because I'm not Macho.
― Poop Song 89 (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
Someone I like posted an email to the entire department asking them to vote for her in some online competition.
If it had been someone I don't like I'd be straight to the stupid annoying coworkers thread but as it is I'll just have to feel embarrassed.
― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's supposed to threaten your masculinity in some way or your self image by associating yourself with products that are not for men or indicate you may be pooping, a time when you would be vulnerable to attack. x-p
― mh, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
It's just misogyny, y'all.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
I always thought I was violating the sanctity of some secret female aisle.
But hey, it wasn't me that stocked the diapers there.
― pplains, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
how can I know when jazz is occurring?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://thestockmasters.com/files/images/story-images/hannibal-a-team.jpg
when hannibal is around
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
Cosby had good taste in Jazz iirc
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp1wdhYlyq1r00k3po1_r2_500.gif
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1313252609743540.gif
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry. "cosby show dance gif" may be the best Google search results ever.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
omg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_logxw2QbRO1r03vjuo1_250.gif
wau
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Thanking u
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
okay one more
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx958nQ3jv1qaboh9o1_500.gif
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
it'll be embarrassing when my mom gives me that sweater for xmas
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be less embarrassing if you dance in it.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
I would wear that sweater.
― I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
It's pretty cool that one man can become an icon for a very specific type of ugly sweater.
I'm a little irrationally embarrassed by my sudden overwhelming feelings of affection toward Bill Cosby.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
Whooee feelings are even more embarrassing than bodies, imo.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
even pleated pants work on bill cosby
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
In Britain, there are two '80s US sweater icons: Cos and Casey Kasem.
― rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
are they called jumper icons?
xp don't forget Noel Edmonds.Actually, wait...Forget Noel Edmonds
― I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
xp to LL - Oh, speaking of bodies, I was going to offer a long post in solidarity with your "chewing" embarrassment, but never got around to it, but chewing gets to me, too. So does any situation where I'm expected to stand and eat and socialize. I usually just don't eat, which is how I end up wasted at work parties.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
EATING AND SOCIALIZING IS NOT INNOCUOUS
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link