can't believe ilx has no lostprophets thread

jesus

Their first single's pretty rocking. Everything else I've heard not so much.

Also known as 	Lozt Prophetz (1997–1999)

yeah "Last Train Home" was a jam, wish i could have enjoyed it a couple more times before learning about all this

Oh shit I totally didn't check out the link before offering my opinion.

well u did say 'Everything else I've heard not so much'

Yes, none of that new information sounds in the least bit rocking.

Fuck, I hadn't seen the details of the charges until now. Fuck.

The only reports I'd seen prior to than Independent one only mentioned an "under-aged" girl but... one year old? Fuck.

horrible.

if true.

holy shit that is ill

Also known as Mirrorboy, L'Amour La Morgue

Apt.

see I actually assumed this was going to go un-commented on here, if only for the reason that Lostprophets are like the platonic ideal of a band ILM will never care about

until now I guess

yebbut "But Seriously" had been number one for months on end before that, believe me - i'm sure i remember hearing Gary Davies announce those 1990 album charts for the first time. on Saturday the Daily Telegraph (which of course i didn't actually read) had a big thing on its front page about "the young people who disagree with their liberal parents" or something like that - i suspect this is what Bunged Out is referring to.

as for Keane, they're merely another example of the ongoing tendency - in the 60s, the vast bulk of British pop music came from the south-east and the West Coast Main Line corridor, whereas now it's become so central to the culture, and the Americosceptic heartlands of wariness of its influence (both Old Tory and Old Labour) have been so systematically eroded, that you get people like Keane, who in the post-war years would have been Young Conservative bank clerks, choosing pop music as just another career (the idea of a band from Battle, Sussex getting to number three in 1966 would have been completely unthinkable, Troggs and Dave Dee notwithstanding). pop music is just *there* now, so they don't think what they're doing is in any way *significant* (compare to, say, Reg Presley's "this kind of feeling could move a nation"; *he knew*) - the sound of "Somewhere Only We Know" is the sound of a cultural form completely immersed in the fabric in a way unthinkable even ten years ago, saying nothing and being nothing.

the tedium of bands like that i would call "Wienerisation", after the man who did most to encourage ideological loathing of the conservative middle classes' wariness of pop culture and thus allow pop music to slip further and further into the background and have less and less *drama* and *impact* to it. Keane are merely a sociological aftereffect; they mean nothing in themselves, and they wouldn't pretend to, but their existence and doubtless massive future success says a lot. born in the Thatcher years, they can't remember a time when conservatism - even in Sussex market towns - wasn't merely another flavour of the Coca-Cola culture / McCulture (whatever you want to say), and therefore they see it as perfectly natural for the most conservative dullards to make a career out of pop music. what Lostprophets are to the miners' strike, they are to the sackings of Lord Carrington, Francis Pym et al. can you imagine the sort of people who like "Somewhere Only We Know" thinking much for themselves? i can't. at least Chris Martin is politically dead right in most of his beliefs. Keane are *nothing*.

― phoebe dinsmore's bastard nephew (robin carmody), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:25 (8 years ago)

Could you clarify your point about Lostprophets and the miners' strike, please? I'm not sure I get what you're saying.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2004 13:16 (8 years ago)

Lolprophets

innocent until proven guilty and murdered in prison tho

My Chemical Romance - Living Years
Lostprophets - Save Your Kisses For me
Cradle of Filth - Devil Woman(they did cover it)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:31 (6 years ago)

see I actually assumed this was going to go un-commented on here, if only for the reason that Lostprophets are like the platonic ideal of a band ILM will never care about

I thought they polled decently well on this but I guess I remembered incorrectly:
Modern Rock #1 Hits of 2004

just leaving this here

holy fucking christ

the fuck is going on there

Holy crap.

The only reports I'd seen prior to than Independent one only mentioned an "under-aged" girl but... one year old? Fuck.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This goes for me too. Jesus.

There's a story on there about him having three penises and impregnating a unicorn which I imagine is about as reliable as most of the rest of the thread.

there is a description from a year ago correlating with exactly what he is charged with

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Joanne_Nikita_Majic_break_up_with_Ian_Watkins_from_Lostprophets_for_good

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_74997/ian-watkins/comments

a friend linked me to this tonight, i was just like what the fuck.

weird...one of the first things i thought of when the saville story broke was the dudes in bands from this (or closely related) scenes who used to sleep with my school friends when i was 16/17. at the time i didn't think much of it (some jealously i guess) but as i've got older i realised how creepy it was that these dudes in their mid-to-late 20s were sleeping with girls still in school. i always been unsure whether it was actually a case of being predatory or just being unable to grow up and relate to girls their own age. i think for many it was probably the latter but this lostprophets dude sounds like a real dirtbag.

This is not that.

agree

jesus, that whosedatedwho thing is like the fount of eternal toxic misogyny.

some friends of mine in yr11/sixth form were into sleeping with lostprophets members and peripherals -- kind of hoping none of them slept with this douche, even if he's found innocent of this he's really not someone you'd want on your sexual history.

even if he's found innocent regardless of this

http://25.media.tumblr.com/758dff197bd68703391f262e510b346e/tumblr_mfb4ww48841qk6n0oo1_250.gif

this is probably going to be the worst sub judice lull ever

there is pretty much going to be nothing to say about anything in the entire world until he gets his next court appearance

But this sort of thing only ever happened in the 70s, it was acceptable then, part of the culture

http://i.imgur.com/VxNzY.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22753681

In court this week. 23 child sex offences and two counts of raping a baby.

and "possessing extreme pornographic images involving an animal".

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Megan Conner
The Observer, Saturday 31 August 2013 19.00 BST

band have officially split.

I'd link the BBC report, but you can pretty much guess the content...

Is it about his three penises or the unicorn thing?

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ah well that didn't work

http://i.imgur.com/fPhRxfC.jpg

idk is this kid relevant to the 'story' or is the just 'sick' being the story

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um, what?

that nerys hughes looks younger every time i see her

just read a story about this and what the fucking fuck

Guilty

this seems reasonably clear cut then

hope he enjoys his own company

http://i.imgur.com/vO37Jgz.jpg

the pep ponk that will be kept aleev

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#MonPlusBeauSouvenirDuBataclan Les concert de @riseagainst et @lostprophets (avant que ian watkins soit incarcéré pour pédophilie :/ )

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Solomon Radley – Contributor

Well I’m loathe to do this – but the answer to this one comes from the philosophy of aesthetics. When someone asks “What does a work of art mean?” the least problematic answer is “Whatever the artist intended it to mean.” That’s why Duchamp’s ‘Fountain’ isn’t just a urinal, and it’s why John Cage’s ‘4’33”’ is a piece of music, rather than a pretentious four-minute exercise in pointlessness.

It follows that if an artist intends something to be part of a piece of art, it becomes part of that piece of art. What’s more, in some cases you’ll find that the personal lives of a band’s members are part of the art in an even more direct way – for example, The Wonder Years took Soupy’s most personal thoughts and anxieties and made it the subject matter of their last three albums.

If something’s not actually part of an artwork, it shouldn’t really colour your opinion of that art. So if an artist didn’t intend their personal life to be part of the music, you shouldn’t really judge the music by their life ‘off record/stage’.

But that’s the problem – what Ian Watkins allegedly did shouldn’t affect what you think of their songs, but it does. So you can’t help but feel sorry for the rest of Lostprophets now they’ve been forced to call it a day because the charges against him dragged the band’s name through the mud.

I routinely find I enjoy the personalities behind my favourite music as much as the music itself. That’s why I love Fat Mike, Tyler, The Creator and Ke$ha. And why shouldn’t I? Maybe a better definition of the meaning of a piece of art would be “Whatever the listener derives from it”.

To hell with all the complicated philosophical implications – that best-describes the meaning I grasp when listening to music, so I’m sticking with it. It also explains why I can’t listen to ‘Shinobi Vs. Dragon Ninja’ anymore without feeling a shade guilty.

Solomon Radley, born to write badley

http://www.aux.tv/2015/12/taylor-swift-song-appears-on-spotify-credited-to-lostprophets/

Still amazed that any paedophile would use the phrase 'Ifuckkids' to password protect their computer full of child porn. Wonder how long it took GCHQ to crack that one.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:31 AM (2 years ago)

He's back! http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/paedophile-singer-ian-watkins-twitter-12210876

The "Laim McKenzie, Paisley" tag on the soundcloud page has me less than convinced, though

In Wales for the night and in honour of the occasion can anyone recommend any of the earlier stuff

wasn't it his love of earlier stuff that landed him in jail?

xp - When the band was in its infancy?

Let's not make this about that please.

Heck of a comeback line, tho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Devotion

I wonder if Owen Smith likes to blast them out in the car.

I still don't buy for one second the story that these dudes were in a van with this guy for like 15 years and never once did they consider something was not on the level

"Great show, guys! Welp, I'm off to the hotel to have a fully legal sexual encounter with an adult woman who is over the age of 18."

"Let's just borrow your laptop for a sec, what's the login password again?"

they travelled separately for a long time so he could do what he wanted.

Hey Hey, They were not The Monkees.

"Great show, guys! Welp, I'm off to the hotel to have a fully legal sexual encounter with an adult woman who is over the age of 18."

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 24, 2017 9:04 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

had to check to see if these guys ever played the Warped tour, because I'm pretty sure that's a phrase they make bands practice repeating before playing that now

the age of consent in wales is 9 btw

nah jk the welsh reproduce via parthenogenesis iirc

meanwhile everyone's favourite welsh sex criminal has just signed for caek's lot again, glory has truly returned to bramall lane

they call it cywldly gwlnthly or something xp

take it to the 'incomprehensible britishisms' thread buddy xp

Are No Devotion still a functioning thing? I heard they had an actual hit in Romania or something, but surely they're still well fucked

brb gotta head over to the 'posts you has second thoughts about' thread

Lots of references to the regrettable actions of Watkins but i was actually hoping for some solid recommendations here folks

in what sphere? life in general?

Tbf I don't think we are dealing with Wagner or Micheal Jackson here, he was just simply a pile of shit.

Wagner, yeah, remember that guy?

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/117/photos/453000/620x/57d2a02acc78d_I121128_135908_192504.jpg

well, exactly - beyond criticism is that fellow - oh shit I thought you meant the Town manager there!

#Wagnerknows

Recommendations?

'Other bands are available'

Ultimately, the Lostprophets produced The Betrayed by themselves at the Los Angeles home of the band's bassist, Stuart Richardson, between 2008 and 2009. Over the course of this multi-year recording process, they scrapped a lot of material, ultimately selecting a dozen songs for the 45-minute album. The first half of the album is uniformly excellent, in particular the full-throttle rockers "Dstryr/Dstryr," "It's Not the End of the World, But I Can See It from Here," and "Next Stop, Atro City." Though less invigorating and perhaps too pop-oriented for some fans, the U2-esque "Where We Belong" and the ska lilt of "For He's a Jolly Good Felon" are also first-rate.

the ska lilt of "For He's a Jolly Good Felon"
the ska lilt of "For He's a Jolly Good Felon"
the ska lilt of "For He's a Jolly Good Felon"
the ska lilt of "For He's a Jolly Good Felon"
the ska lilt of "For He's a Jolly Good Felon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrq5hGcAf50&sns=em

"And so say all of us"

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Born Ian David Karslake Watkins
30 July 1977 (age 39)
Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Other names L'Amour La Morgue

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4599226/Paedophile-19-fantasised-raping-babies-jailed.html

does not say whether this top lad was a lostprophets fan

so i guess this is ilx's de facto baby-rape thread now huh

if you want to start a new baby-rape thread, be my guest

i feel like the 'i love people-making board' would at once be the most appropriate and very much least appropriate place to put it

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/06/ian-watkins-singer-jailed-for-child-sex-offences-stabbed-in-prison

the dangerous sex offenders and murderers union had a meeting at the monster mansion and came to the unanimous decision that this guy is bad PR!

this is terrible news its not for other convicts to mete out this sort of rough justice it should be a pool from a lottery of citizens with valid tax clearance certificates and then victims or their chosen representatives after that perhaps students who get top grades in their chosen subjects just throwin out ideas here

i was very sad to hear about this. the quality of shivving in english prisons is patently not what it once was.

"According to our records, Ian Watkins is possibly single."