Finally Rich - Chief Keef

"no tomorrow" is great, but the whole thing is pretty hit and miss

i think it's funny that people complain that he's not on the beat on that song because that's my problem with EVERY song

like honestly i'm no lyrically lyrical rap snob but if you've got a simple straightforward style you better be in the fuckin pocket as a vocalist imo

i wonder if thats the appeal tho. Lil B raps like there's not even a song in headphones sometimes

rap game farrah abraham

i have a lot to say about this album but i don't want to spoil my review :-/

one thing that i think is interesting is that this album feels sort of like a landmark for me just from an influence perspective. like as basically the youngest dude in the game this album is essentially a stew of every major southern rapper of the last handful of years... wayne/gucci/soulja/waka/future etc. there's not even a trace of T.I. in here or anything... it's almost as if no other music exists besides post-ringtone rap. i think that's kind of great and i also think that keef emerges as some sort of singular pop monster machine but that's just imo.

i don't understand where "pop" keeps entering this equation, though. it doesn't seem like any of his singles are gonna go further than the modest peak of "i don't like."

well you can def tell this is a kid who grew up on 50 though does he count as pre-ringtone rap?

i don't really hear any 50, kinda wonder if that'd even occur to anyone if 50 didn't appear on the record and talk about keef in interviews

it doesn't seem like any of his singles are gonna go further than the modest peak of "i don't like."

― some dude, Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love "love sosa" is well on the way to becoming more ubiquitous than "i don't like" if it hasn't already

"hate being sober" is another huge pop moment

see people keep saying that about "hate being sober" as if it's already happened but until it actually does numbers it's just a prediction

i'm talking purely in terms of form... "i don't like" was a pop hit (sorta) but it wasn't a pop song. idk if "hate being sober" or w/e is gonna hit but that aims to be a pop song (or pop-rap) imo & i think that's true for a lot of the stuff here

i think you can trace 50's flow out of keef on stuff like "hate being sober" or "love sosa" but it's filtered through years of rap. wayne is more of a direct influence but with him it's also, like, his stoned autotune experiments as filtered thru soulja boy youtubes

It's true that he's often offbeat, but it only really bothers me on No Tomorrow because the beat is so woozy and when you get woozy vocals on top of that the whole thing nearly topples. I kinda like the double wooziness though. It feels brave in a way.

that's definitely one song where the beat kind of draws attention but also kinda works with it. bothers me much more on other tracks.

http://thequietus.com/articles/11011-chief-keef-finally-rich-review

why do they feel the need to review this ?

50 comparison to me is more overarching similarities & meta stuff than direct ->influence

he's definitely extremely rhythmically loose but i don't think 'off-beat' at all

such as? no parallels leap out at me aside from 'gangsta rapper who has definitely actually held a gun at some point in his life'. (xp)

i dont mean there's some great resonance to it or anything, but melodic rapper w/ great hooks bankrolled by interscope & whose career is based upon narrative/biography of authenticity etc

Quietus dude repping for the wiz verse on 'sober' was a lil' strange.

haha "is on interscope" how uncanny

haha "is on interscope" how uncanny

― some dude, Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jimmy iovine dropping serious $$$ on this sort of thing cant be a surprise right

not picking on spin cuz everyone's doing this but its weird to me how after years of no one noticing that rappers are talking about guns suddenly it bears mentioning in every keef post http://www.spin.com/articles/chief-keef-ftr-drama-go-video-nsfw

i hung w/ brainwasher last night & he said it seemed like they were rushing the release of the album b/c to him 'love sosa' was just starting to build, which feels right I think. this album coming out now is some kreayshawn-driven insecurity at some level. maybe a lil too worried that he wouldn't be able to follow up "i dont like" when they scheduled the release. keef isnt really doing promotion for it — he isnt doing any release parties and is already recording new material for his next album. meanwhile, i heard from a friend that 'love sosa' is being played constantly in atlanta right now

the other thing w/ the 50 cent parallel is — 'they like me i want em to love me like they love pac' would be keef's 'they like me i want em to love me like they love wayne'

idk i think there's some interesting parallels w/ keef & 50 although MUSICALLY i don't think there is much—jordan's theory about keef's recombination of influences seems otm to me

these days release dates don't seem to be as reliant on radio spins. although obv different kinds of artists/careers, kendrick and j. cole got their release dates and did good first week numbers and THEN the singles really rose up the charts. which used to be the standard, and is probably healthier in the long run.

i mean maybe CK will surprise me and move some units and get a serious radio-hit. all of his fame feels so media-driven on a national level, though, like he's definitely a big deal to certain kinds of rap fans but not really in the conversation at all for a lot of demographics.

talking about louie again?

haha

yeah you might be right about that. this effect at work

http://instagram.com/p/TbP4kMDx8g/

The rap on "Laughing to the bank" is like a 1/8 beat ahead of the beat and its so hard for me to listen to

yeah this must be how dan perry feels listening to singers w/ bad pitch

even the "hauh hauh hauh" loop is off in a way that never starts to sound deliberate or like a happy accident no matter how many times it repeats

exactly, like if you move 1/8 of a beat in time it would be really funky

Yep. He tends to finish too early and it's semi-annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fRWxAV3Eik

exactly, like if you move 1/8 of a beat in time it would be really funky

would be funny if the engineer fucked it up accidentally.

v addicted and p much super endeared with this album i think, idg how anyone could call it nihilistic

jeezy cut is kind of a drag and breaks the spell long enough to take 3hunna down with it too tho

loving the lil birdcall adlibs on 'kay kay'

haha on one listen jeezy's entrance was my favourite moment on this

i've come round to "i don't like" to the extent that i'd, like, nod my head if it came along in a club but it's not that keef is nihilistic so much as completely unfun

it's kinda early-days-of-dubsteppy in that it's really made for moody boys to nod along to while skulking in the shadows and i gues sthey can have that if they want

idk this wasnt at all the album i was really expecting coming off of 'dont like' and various other received half-wisdoms, it's a calling card but not necessarily the most musically representative of the whole

and it is a fun album!

"i don't like" sounded a lot more exuberant in this context than it ever has

ha xp

yes, i also found that

like before it was catchy but here it seems bouncy

yes, bouncy! i really really love the sentiment of "i don't like" & completely identify; it doesn't strike me as portentous ~nihilism~ (they really mean it and that's scary) (yes i know there is horrible social context) so much as scornful but celebratory of the stuff unsaid that keef DOES like

i just wish i could hear it as anything other than "a fart niggaaaaa"

fuck anthony fantano that guy is a waste of breath

clarifiation: i don't care he doesn't like finally rich, he's just awful in general