SHANELL _ NOBODY'S BITCH _ ALBUM OF THE YEAR

no, and yes, but not really any more, but electroclash was formative club music for me and i'm happy with that

xp

she was probably more influential than ppl give her credit for in the long run

"Last Time" is great

"Pay Me"... is not

― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:05 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

what a bizarre pair of songs to pick out

yeah a mixtape "bonus track" being a non-standout prob doesn't mean very much

even beyond the ~attitude~ (which is AMAZING and has been so lacking of late, except it hasn't cuz it turns out everyone just ran to the comfort blanket of sad dudes this year) there's so much going on vocally and production-wise...she revels in her versatility here

can't get to datpiff to download so I'm going down Youtube in the order the songs are presented to me, which I recognize is going to give a pretty disjointed view of what this album is actually like

she was probably more influential than ppl give her credit for in the long run

she probably introduced lots of white people to women talking about sex on record, i guess it might have been revelatory if you didn't listen to lil kim or trina

this rap-up post has a sharebeast d/l link http://www.rap-up.com/2012/08/13/new-music-shanell-nobodys-bitch-mixtape/

this shit needs a lady feature <3<3 'turn up on him' is a monster

I intuitively agree with you lex re sad dudes but who do you actually mean apart from the weeknd? or do you class frank ocean in that category also.

yeah

maybe "mopey" is more apt than "sad", or maybe i just mean SLOW AND TORPID AND LACKING IN ENERGY, and you can chuck how to dress well and jeremih in there too

busta's verse on "last time" is so bizarrely out-of-character

the vague throwbackishness and the way she sings puts in mind some vocal midpoint between Elle Varner and Janelle Monae

haha Jeremih has taken an epic aesthetic journey in your mind (xp)

'last time' doesn't sound that diff to something from that jeremih mixtape tbf to poor old jeremih

I'm kind of reacting to this the same way I reacted to Frank Ocean? I am enjoying listening to this but it's unlikely I'm going to go back to the songs I've heard so far to play them again except for "Last Time" and "360" (the other songs being "Pay Me", "Love Is A Losing Game", "You", "None Tonight"; I'm also assuming that the songs being presented to me by Youtube are the songs on this album since they were uploaded with the cover art, so I'll probably download this to listen to it in sequence at some point)

are you 'having a hard time processing it'?

not really

"On The One" is pretty nice, too

AS SHANELL HERSELF SAYS HERE, "people have a hard time processing it when it's not packaged for the consumption of male entertainment, so they don't know quite what to do with it or how to place it or what to say, because surely a woman couldn't be intelligent enough to be making a point?"

Really resent some of the arguments at work here, and that this is being held up as some exemplary model of what female R&B should sound like in 2012. Women released so many great R&B albums that weren't completely ridiculous and that didn't open with desperate Azealia Banks knock offs

holdin' gauges
pussy outrageous
dinosaur flow
my period's cretaceous

would strongly urge folks to totally disregard the last two tracks p much, bonuses they may be but their additional distraction downplays a seriously terrific lil album

'you' is a fine end besides

"On The One" is good. "Just For The Night" isn't.

wrong. leave.

no actually come back here i wanna hear this, you seriously don't like 'just for the night'?? why on earth not?

shhh I'll explain when I finish with "Last Time."

fwiw as this goes on, I think it's a stronger effort than Frank Ocean

she was doing really well on "None Tonight" (love the tape stop effect) until the chorus.

alfred u have to leave sorry ;_;

love "Last Time"

earring to nose ring attachment of the... decade

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 17, 2012 3:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

def 1st response HOF btw

OK. Re "Just For the Night," which I just heard again:

The Herbie Hancock-esque programming/scratching in the intro = fabulous. I didn't hear enough tension between her wan chorus and the rest of the song though, esp when the bridge teased me into thinking a banger was coming.

i see, so it fails on the terms you arbitrarily invented for it

I'm not aware of other terms.

an unhappy story told from two sides of lonely lies and love by proxy, appropriately set in a churning trudging strobing clubland that is a deliberately false impression of a good time and which approximates but never achieves fleeting release just the same way as its inhabitants do. alternatively its routine placidity as sad weary happiness that's just enough

but either way your exultant chorus, banger, tension would be in aid of what in the song?

I've got the brains, you've got the looks.

would you like to give me a proper answer now or would dorothy perkins like to keep pretending she's dorothy parker?

All those things in aid of a song I'm not hearing but you do.

you don't hear... the lyrics?

i mean if you have an alternative reading that you feel the performance or production inadequately dramatises i'd love to hear it

perhaps not if it's going to take 40 posts painstakingly extracting it from you though

The lyrics are sharp! I love the doctor bits. I was trying not to rely on lyrics though.

I mean, I hear what you're saying about exultant-verses/flat-chorus, willing herself to have a good time. I'm just not transported, although I'll listen to it again.

I did hear a bit of Dawn Richards' cyber-erotic devastation in "Last Time" but she's bawdier, and that's a plus.

dawn hasnt really crossed my mind at all with this, i guess when prompted i can see where the mentions come from on the face of it but shanell's viscerality completely takes dawn out the picture for me

kalenna though would certainly be viable

thread of the century, album is top 5 just for it

the possibilities become endless

well this is great

this is great for sure. need to have time to really dedicate to listening to it, though. so my proper thoughts will come in a day and a half.

This album can't possibly live up to this thread

This album can't possibly live up to this thread

that's what i thought!

and it didn't! though they complement each other nicely

The new mixtape is solid straight through and legit stunning in places. "Show Me," "Boy Stop Playin'," "Dedicated" and "So Good" are early highlights for me

Not sure if this is supposed to be "another side of Shanell" or a complete retcon of Nobody's Bitch, but the reinvention is really working for her. This is the best she's ever sounded.

haha just watched 'my button' again... hands down one of the best songs of the decade imo

have we discussed the female empowerment angle yet?

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:07 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

Not sure if this is supposed to be "another side of Shanell" or a complete retcon of Nobody's Bitch, but the reinvention is really working for her. This is the best she's ever sounded.

a reinvention that reuses multiple songs off nobody's bitch?

anyway this is pretty good, nothing's touching "catch me at the light" so far apart from maybe "boy stop playin" and it certainly doesn't have the whoa factor of nobody's bitch but i'm liking the sumptuousness and feeling. "catch me at the light" is sooooooo fantastic though, sorta likea response to terius' "fast car" type tracks