SHANELL _ NOBODY'S BITCH _ ALBUM OF THE YEAR

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tpp, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

it's pretty old and incredibly boring to see female-fronted music which dares to have explicit sexual attitude get reduced to this ludicrous stereotype again, while so much shit made by slow sad dudes gets the full chin-stroking treatment. go away, all of you

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

i can't get this image out of my head of lex's funeral... he lays in his casket as a mourner solemnly presses play on a loop of shanell singing "fuck me daddy / suck me good"

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 17, 2012 4:48 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loooool

flopson, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

people be getting disinvited to lex's funeral ITT

I want to hear this to confirm but it already has a provisional spot in my top five for the year.

Tim F, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

seriously, some of the shit these people have repped for, i don't know how they have the nerve

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

still tho keep up the stand-up routine and/or useless shilling guys, good job

― r|t|c, Monday, December 17, 2012 4:29 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can't pull a Big & Rich in 2012 and not get the goofball parade, c'mon you know this

some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

'on the one' is so good

tpp, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

"just for the night" goes straight into the pantheon of Other Woman songs

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

seriously, some of the shit these people have repped for, i don't know how they have the nerve

― lex pretend, Monday, December 17, 2012 4:54 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

<3<3<3

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

you can't pull a Big & Rich in 2012 and not get the goofball parade, c'mon you know this

― some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:55 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

peanut gallery is a peanut gallery, what are you so proud of

r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

seriously, some of the shit these people have repped for, i don't know how they have the nerve

― lex pretend, Monday, December 17, 2012 3:54 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

trying to figure out if this is #shotsfired at blue oyster cult or not :/

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

"Last Time" is great

"Pay Me"... is not

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

AS SHANELL HERSELF SAYS HERE, "people have a hard time processing it when it's not packaged for the consumption of male entertainment, so they don't know quite what to do with it or how to place it or what to say, because surely a woman couldn't be intelligent enough to be making a point?"

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

lex were you on ILM when peaches was out? did you like her?

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

I have listened to the album, and she actually does these things. Like, the last song is literally a chant about slapping hoes. The mixtape ends with her comparing a rival's pussy to a hallway in which a hotdog can be thrown. Those are her parting words.

― Evan R, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:42 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

and this is the only thing she does is it? nothing else

even if it was SO WHAT lex otm ffs

r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

no, and yes, but not really any more, but electroclash was formative club music for me and i'm happy with that

xp

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

she was probably more influential than ppl give her credit for in the long run

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

"Last Time" is great

"Pay Me"... is not

― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:05 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

what a bizarre pair of songs to pick out

r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah a mixtape "bonus track" being a non-standout prob doesn't mean very much

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

even beyond the ~attitude~ (which is AMAZING and has been so lacking of late, except it hasn't cuz it turns out everyone just ran to the comfort blanket of sad dudes this year) there's so much going on vocally and production-wise...she revels in her versatility here

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

can't get to datpiff to download so I'm going down Youtube in the order the songs are presented to me, which I recognize is going to give a pretty disjointed view of what this album is actually like

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

she was probably more influential than ppl give her credit for in the long run

she probably introduced lots of white people to women talking about sex on record, i guess it might have been revelatory if you didn't listen to lil kim or trina

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

this rap-up post has a sharebeast d/l link http://www.rap-up.com/2012/08/13/new-music-shanell-nobodys-bitch-mixtape/

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

this shit needs a lady feature <3<3 'turn up on him' is a monster

tpp, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

I intuitively agree with you lex re sad dudes but who do you actually mean apart from the weeknd? or do you class frank ocean in that category also.

Tim F, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

maybe "mopey" is more apt than "sad", or maybe i just mean SLOW AND TORPID AND LACKING IN ENERGY, and you can chuck how to dress well and jeremih in there too

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

busta's verse on "last time" is so bizarrely out-of-character

lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

the vague throwbackishness and the way she sings puts in mind some vocal midpoint between Elle Varner and Janelle Monae

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

haha Jeremih has taken an epic aesthetic journey in your mind (xp)

some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

'last time' doesn't sound that diff to something from that jeremih mixtape tbf to poor old jeremih

tpp, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

I'm kind of reacting to this the same way I reacted to Frank Ocean? I am enjoying listening to this but it's unlikely I'm going to go back to the songs I've heard so far to play them again except for "Last Time" and "360" (the other songs being "Pay Me", "Love Is A Losing Game", "You", "None Tonight"; I'm also assuming that the songs being presented to me by Youtube are the songs on this album since they were uploaded with the cover art, so I'll probably download this to listen to it in sequence at some point)

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

are you 'having a hard time processing it'?

mookieproof, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

not really

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

"On The One" is pretty nice, too

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

AS SHANELL HERSELF SAYS HERE, "people have a hard time processing it when it's not packaged for the consumption of male entertainment, so they don't know quite what to do with it or how to place it or what to say, because surely a woman couldn't be intelligent enough to be making a point?"

Really resent some of the arguments at work here, and that this is being held up as some exemplary model of what female R&B should sound like in 2012. Women released so many great R&B albums that weren't completely ridiculous and that didn't open with desperate Azealia Banks knock offs

Evan R, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

holdin' gauges
pussy outrageous
dinosaur flow
my period's cretaceous

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

would strongly urge folks to totally disregard the last two tracks p much, bonuses they may be but their additional distraction downplays a seriously terrific lil album

'you' is a fine end besides

r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

"On The One" is good. "Just For The Night" isn't.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

wrong. leave.

r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

no actually come back here i wanna hear this, you seriously don't like 'just for the night'?? why on earth not?

r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

shhh I'll explain when I finish with "Last Time."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw as this goes on, I think it's a stronger effort than Frank Ocean

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

she was doing really well on "None Tonight" (love the tape stop effect) until the chorus.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

alfred u have to leave sorry ;_;

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

love "Last Time"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

earring to nose ring attachment of the... decade

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 17, 2012 3:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

def 1st response HOF btw

johnny crunch, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

OK. Re "Just For the Night," which I just heard again:

The Herbie Hancock-esque programming/scratching in the intro = fabulous. I didn't hear enough tension between her wan chorus and the rest of the song though, esp when the bridge teased me into thinking a banger was coming.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

i see, so it fails on the terms you arbitrarily invented for it

r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not aware of other terms.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

an unhappy story told from two sides of lonely lies and love by proxy, appropriately set in a churning trudging strobing clubland that is a deliberately false impression of a good time and which approximates but never achieves fleeting release just the same way as its inhabitants do. alternatively its routine placidity as sad weary happiness that's just enough

but either way your exultant chorus, banger, tension would be in aid of what in the song?

r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

what is good about this thread, or do you enjoy reading people trying to be "funny" with lamentable results

Instead of critiquing this album, anybody who is not a fan should just post an animated gif of a woman angrily swinging an axe any time it is mentioned.

Evan R, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

rtc telling alfred to leave the thread inspired real lols, lex

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

The cover got me in, reminds me of possibly 10 things that I'm probably recollecting wrongly.

And yeah the tone can be aggressive seeming but then more quiet and the wistful piano touches in so mopey too. From a listen there are more mooods once you go further in.

The 'speaks...' stuff in it is great. Gives the record a shape.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

this thread is hilarious and raises the question: is the message board format doomed to always eventually become an ouroboros

slam dunk, Friday, 21 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

i liked something
-one person

we already 'did' liking something
-other person

slam dunk, Friday, 21 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

idk what the best track from this would be to introduce people to shanell? "fuck me daddy" is obv stunning but might be a bit too extra...think it might be between "on the one" and "360" with "turn up on him" as sleeper choice

lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

ya i would say "on the one" or the one w/ busta

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

On the One. Like a summation of a few moods and emotional registers in one place.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 December 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGVJQ0ctWzw

omg lol

amazing

r|t|c, Friday, 21 December 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

pretty good album imo

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

"touch" me daddy and just for tonight have videos. the first one...the scissor legs scene. the little dog. the BANANAS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w9FezaSWDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAXbqRQTU5I

also, her terrifying nails in both

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

obviously i am still MASSIVELY ON this mixtape, in terms of songs i'm especially on "360" and the way it basically sounds like an r&b jerk song then the beat goes into nola bounce

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

http://soundcloud.com/cloopmusic/shanell-catch-me-at-the-light

^^INCREDIBLE new song

http://soundcloud.com/cloopmusic/shanell-dedicated

^^sweet new song

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/22370/shanell-midnight-mimosas.html

^^new mixtape that i can't listen to yet (honestly i work in an office for like 5 days per year and it DOES MY HEAD IN not being able to LIVE like a NORMAL PERSON) but it's called midnight mimosas which, you know, she got me right there

lex pretend, Friday, 7 June 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

happy for her but being reminded of this nadir of a thread darkens my bloodclaat mood tbh

r|t|c, Friday, 7 June 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

it's neither you nor me nor her who should be embarrassed about it

lex pretend, Friday, 7 June 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

The new mixtape is solid straight through and legit stunning in places. "Show Me," "Boy Stop Playin'," "Dedicated" and "So Good" are early highlights for me

Evan R, Friday, 7 June 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

Not sure if this is supposed to be "another side of Shanell" or a complete retcon of Nobody's Bitch, but the reinvention is really working for her. This is the best she's ever sounded.

Evan R, Friday, 7 June 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

haha just watched 'my button' again... hands down one of the best songs of the decade imo

r|t|c, Friday, 7 June 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

have we discussed the female empowerment angle yet?

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:07 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 June 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

Not sure if this is supposed to be "another side of Shanell" or a complete retcon of Nobody's Bitch, but the reinvention is really working for her. This is the best she's ever sounded.

a reinvention that reuses multiple songs off nobody's bitch?

anyway this is pretty good, nothing's touching "catch me at the light" so far apart from maybe "boy stop playin" and it certainly doesn't have the whoa factor of nobody's bitch but i'm liking the sumptuousness and feeling. "catch me at the light" is sooooooo fantastic though, sorta likea response to terius' "fast car" type tracks

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link


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