WTF with Marc Maron (it's a podcast)

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i mean this:

"I've gone through my own process of owning my bullshit in that situation," former Soul Coughing bassist Sebastian Steinberg tells The Pitch over the phone, while on tour with Fiona Apple. "I don't miss being in a band with Mike, but I have a lot of compassion for him. I actually think that he's got a form of aphasia — a perceptive gap. He demonstrated that through the whole career of the band, and the way he talks and writes about it now seems to be there. He doesn't hear what the rest of us did as songs. It's like trying to tell a colorblind person what orange is. The synapse isn't there. And I don't mean that as belittling as it sounds. I genuinely sense his agony over this. I feel for him on the most human level. I'm sorry that he feels that way. I wish he could look at Soul Coughing and be proud that he's created a whole new thing. I love that Doughty's created a new book of songs. I love that he's persevered. He has every right to be as proud as he can be. I just wish he could see Soul Coughing for what it was, and not for what he always tried to get credit for it as being. That band never existed. He'll sleep better if he ever figures that out. I sure do."

next to this:

"To a certain extent," Doughty says during a phone call with The Pitch, "I suspect that they're all just deeply self-destructive people, that they were consciously or unconsciously trying to wreck the boat. They just ended up with the wrong crazy person that wasn't going to let go of the boat. In my opinion, they were on a continuum between sociopathic and just straight-up delusional."

and this:

"There was a lot of stuff that came from jamming — a keyboard part or a beat," Doughty says. "But in the end, songs are things that are sung. And I was the only guy writing stuff that was sung."

Naturally, former Soul Coughing sampler Mark De Gli Antoni sees the process from a different angle, but the overlap in their accounts is telling.

"I could enter a rehearsal with Sebastian and Yuval [Gabay, drummer]," De Gli Antoni says via e-mail, "begin playing a shell of something, and the two of them would then completely invent a whole drum-bass world around that. I would then drop what I was initially doing and do something else. Mike would then start riffing words, and eventually we would have a 'Super Bon Bon.' To me, the final result is something I would never say I 'wrote' even if I started it, because the end result was so something-else. Many, many of our songs were like that."

is pretty telling

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

"But in the end, songs are things that are sung. And I was the only guy writing stuff that was sung."

Those are called poems

President Keyes, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for that link, that is a great read and, as s1ocki points out, extremely telling.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

also lol @ this

"The idea of Mike's book," De Gli Antoni writes, "that through a fog of drugs he behaved a certain way, is a ruse, a construct/fabrication. I was there in his apartment taking his watered-down heroin with him.

some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

The Jay Mohr episode is actually a good example of why I like WTF in general. I mean, it was nothing mindblowing, but I find it interesting when someone like Mohr is able to dig in a little and talk about why he thinks he comes across as a dick or arrogant. I mean, he didn't blame other people, he was pretty much able to fully acknowledge his part.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

kinda weird that Maron didn't ask about Bobcat, since he talked shit about Mohr on WTF

President Keyes, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

he did? I don't remember that...

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, mohr is married to bobcat's exwife

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Maron talked about it when he was on Mohr's podcast.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

haha what kind of woman would marry TWO gross comedians

some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link

and gross in such different ways!

some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link

connoisseur

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Cox

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

Nikki is an American sitcom that aired on The WB from 2000 to 2002. Nikki was a starring vehicle for Nikki Cox, who had previously starred in another WB sitcom, Unhappily Ever After, which ran for five seasons. Looking to capitalize on Cox's popularity, Bruce Helford created a sitcom that featured Cox as the title character.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 09:23 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know if i can bring myself to listen to the Blues Traveler one, unless one of you tells me it's super compelling.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that one is an automatic NOPE for me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

just the barest possibility that he will play or even TALK about that fucking harmonica is enough to give me nausea

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

There's some funny bits in it, mostly near the beginning.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

It wasn't that bad, mostly because the BT guys are huge dorks

President Keyes, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

I finally listened to the Dylan Moran interview - pretty good! Typically, I got annoyed that Maron kept harping on the Catholic abuse thing - DUDE THEY DID THE SAME THING HERE IN THE STATES JESUS CHRIST LET IT GO but I thought Moran engaged with the questions really intelligently and he didn't seem as annoyed as I would have been in the same situation

anyway I just love hearing Moran talk at length so I was happy

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

When they were talking about don delillo i was picturing maron shouting at a copy of cosmopolis, "goddamn it, tell me how to live!"

President Keyes, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

DUDE THEY DID THE SAME THING HERE IN THE STATES JESUS CHRIST LET IT GO

Catholic church integration into everyday life just might be a smidgen higher in Ireland, maybe

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 27 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

oh I know, it just...the way he kept asking about it annoyed me. esp since Moran said he didn't grow up catholic and yet is being called on to act as emmissary for the entire catholic population :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

actually I misread Maron as Moran in your post, makes sense now

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 28 December 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

ha :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 December 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

smh first sentence uttered in the Katz interview, "I have to play my vinyl records because there is integrity to them, authenticity."

President Keyes, Friday, 28 December 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

wow maron brought in the katz

fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

If Maron had any authenticity and integrity, his podcasts would be recorded on wire spools and sent to each individual listener via carrier pigeon.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Where is Donald Fagan's anger?

President Keyes, Friday, 28 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

I thought he would have dug Steely Dan

https://twitter.com/marcmaron/status/281624014479294464

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 28 December 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

he really should

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

But he has a blues based cock

President Keyes, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

anyway I just love hearing Moran talk at length

ha, maybe avoid the upcoming Stephen Tyler one then, dude didn't get a word in edgewise

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Moran or Maron?

Poor Stephen.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

lol oh wait I was confusing Maron and Moran, never mind

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

lol if it makes you all feel better it was just as confusing trying to write it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

ha, maybe avoid the upcoming Stephen Tyler one then, dude didn't get a word in edgewise

― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, December 28, 2012 11:00 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally looking forward to this btw

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

omg yes

i wish it was a call in episode so we could call in and ask about scarf selection, etc
oh well

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

i wish it was a call in episode so we could call in and ask about scarf selection, etc

irl LOL

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Michael Keaton curses like a sailor.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

It's fascinating how it took him so long to "get" the Beetlejuice character, but that when he finally did he really did.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

I can't wait to listen to this

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

That was a really good one. Keaton has lots to say for a guy who doesn't talk much.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

(I mean he actually talks a lot (A LOT!) but rarely does any media.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

mere minutes into that interview & i'm grinning like a loon

it's him! it's really him

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know why I didn't know he was from Pittsburgh? He sure sounds like it once he really starts talking

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Man, this was one of those conversations where Marc really slots in with somebody and they just go.

"It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Thursday, 3 January 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

totally!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Best one in quite some time.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link


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