Sparks: classic or dud?

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I got all their records through "Lost in Space" in Amsterdam for like $2 apiece several years ago - the two early ones on Rundgren's label are good little glampop slices as well ("Girl From Germany" is high-larious), Viscontin definitely upped the ante arrangement-wise tho. The Morodoer stuff is on a whole other level. By the time they hit the 80s things were getting a little spotty but there's always at least a few really great, clever singles on the albums.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Echoing the above, Kimono and Number One -- I'd also suggest Angst In My Pants for the eighties incarnation and the last two, Li'l Beethoven and Hello Young Lovers.

Oh BTW, seems as good a place to mention that Introducing Sparks -- actually their *seventh* album (long story) -- is finally getting an official CD release in a month or so.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link

No love for "Whomp That Sucker"? A slight return to their glam days, "Tips for Teens" and "That's Not Nastasia" are great.

everything, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Indiscreet was my first, too, and from there I think I backtracked to Propaganda. Can't go wrong with Kimono, either, and if you like the "holy trinity," those first two are ridiculously brilliant early works. (Agreed, Visconti's production found a way to channel the weirdness of the first two a bit.)

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Whomp That Sucker also has "Mustache", right...? that song is great.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Moustache is on "Angst In My Pants," also a pretty good Sparks record overall.

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Forget the old stuff, for the time being anyway, next get Lil' Beethoven and then Hello Young Lovers.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I really really like Hello Young Lovers! All other recommendations seconded as well.

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I felt like a theif, getting Propoganda and #1 Song in Heaven for a $3 each from a used store recently.

I eat cannibals, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

thief even.

I eat cannibals, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I play the first five quite often, but while I like some songs here and there, I'm not too into any of the later stuff. I've played Lil Beethoven way too much, trying to make it "click". I'm not big on keyboard-orchestras.

Anyways, I'm really just posting to put this here
http://graphikdesigns.free.fr/sparks-propaganda-cover/sparks-propaganda-rear.jpg

Øystein, Thursday, 20 September 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

A friend of mine reckoned he knew which petrol station that was.

We met them (why/how is a long story), and he actually asked them if it was the petrol station he thought it was. They said yes. (I suspect they were being nice)...

Mark G, Thursday, 20 September 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I just got 'Propaganda' and it's awesome, almost good as 'Kimono My House'.

zeus, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

got propaganda and like it a lot as well.

also:

o_O

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/Sparks-to-Perform-Their-Entire

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Indeed. ;-)

Sparks. Live May/June 2008 in London. EVERY album.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

oh god i wana go see angst in my pants so bad

chaki, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

oops sorry ned! didn't see that one

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I just got the Introducing Sparks CD reissue (first time apparently), the 7th studio album from '77. I really like this! Sure, it's not nearly as awesome as Kimono My House or No. 1 In Heaven.. but I like it more than Big Beat, which I also like.

Introducing Sparks is Sparks' mid-70s Beach Boys / "Have A Nice Day" cool-out album. Half this album is great! The rest is alright. Not worth killing to get, but it's better than most of the 80s albums, absolutely.

Standouts: "Occupation", "Forever Young", "Those Mysteries"

It's a small sounding album compared to their best 70s albums, which may be why they felt embarrassed by it. Or maybe it was that one line in "Ladies". But if you're a Sparks completist, you should get this, and you won't be sorry you got it.

three thoughts:

* I think opinions of this album would stand as pretty low had they just made this available like almost all their albums. I'm sure I'm listening to this in a pool in cognitive dissonance.

* This album would be vastly improved as a live performance in mid 2008!

* Fuck, won't you people just put me in your will so I can fly over to London to see all these shows this summer already goddamnit?

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 4 January 2008 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic, obv. The fact that this thread is almost 7 years old is enough to confirm that. And this post will fade out, yes this post will fade out, and this post will fade out.

Soren Kierkegaard Existential Light Orchestra, Friday, 4 January 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Loved your Sparks discography thing in the new Arthur, Ned! Read it yesterday. It definitely made me wanna hear some of the stuff i haven't heard and it also made me wish i still had all the Sparks vinyl I used to have! Ah well, a new project for me. Gotta catch 'em all!

scott seward, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, thank ya sir! :-) It's interesting, I've received a lot of compliments along that line -- I really did want it to be an overview for everyone since I think so many people (understandably) know or focus on only one era or another. There are a couple of glitches that could be corrected, as well as some last minute errors that crept in which I missed, but hey, perfection can't always be had.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Just saw the movie Knock Off a few weeks ago. Van Damme+Rob Schneider+Mael brothers soundtrack= uh, something strange and wonderful

BigLurks, Monday, 18 August 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Very, very true.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 August 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The titles alone are better than most bands careers.

sleeve, Monday, 18 August 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, thank ya sir! :-) It's interesting, I've received a lot of compliments along that line -- I really did want it to be an overview for everyone since I think so many people (understandably) know or focus on only one era or another. There are a couple of glitches that could be corrected, as well as some last minute errors that crept in which I missed, but hey, perfection can't always be had.

Just wanted to chime in on this. I enjoyed reading the guide, but had Arthur done or requested more editing, I think this would have been REALLY enjoyable. I admit I got lost reading the first few entries because they were each kinda long. Great if you're already a Sparks fan, of course, but I think many many folks would have made this a definitive shopping list and framed this had the blurbs been edited tightly, without resorting to Uncut/Mojo style hyper-hype-blurbs. I stress, I blame the editors here.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 18 August 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's where I'm going to scare you -- the piece was actually heavily *cut down* for publication. (I put the uncut version on my blog in a series of posts.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

"Slowboat" is such a jam. One of those songs that I can't keep from singing when it's in my head.

when I wake up I see my self bearfooted (clotpoll), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice. "Beaver O' Lindy" and "Moon Over Kentucky" tend to come to mind a lot from the early days.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

i just CANNOT get into this band AT ALL save for the moroder LPs

amateurist, Sunday, 24 May 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://maelbox.net/home.html

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Seems about right.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Cuter than cats that look like Adolf Hitler.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sGgDNfnfaQ

Michael B, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I love Sparks, and not just because I'm a Moroder obsessive. The moment when they clicked for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OegzI5lweOo

sciolism, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

And this post will fade out, yes this post will fade out, and this post will fade out....

I PREDICT!

No it won't. Revive! Sparks thoughts here! Seduction Of Ingmar Bergman, anyone? I hadn't even heard of it until today.

Hodge Podge Bodge, Peo-PLE! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Still haven't heard that one! How is it?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought you of all people would know! The snippets I've heard are very intriguing.

One of the problems with Big Beat is that it followed such an incredible run of albums. It's very forgettable and probably my least favourite after Pulling Rabbits, Terminal Jive and maybe Whomp That Sucker.

― Kitchen Person, Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:13 PM (19 minutes ago)

Yeah, I think I was predisposed to give Big Beat more credit than it deserves, because I loved Indiscreet SO MUCH I really wanted to love the next one equally. I also thought the stripped-down sound was in keeping with what was happening in music at the time with Ramones, Talking Heads et al. I played it to death at the time, but now very rarely.

Hodge Podge Bodge, Peo-PLE! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually think Big Beat is better than Indiscreet, mostly because it was more solid track-by-track and had a real agreeable and punchy style of songwriting

frogbs, Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Indiscreet is a desert island disc of mine, a completely one-of-a-kind, over-the-top treasure trove, so preferring Big Beat is pretty interesting, but hey, that's what discussion boards are for! I still like it better than most of their 80s records.

Hodge Podge Bodge, Peo-PLE! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

well I'll have to give it another listen, but if I remember only four songs really stuck with me - "Hospitality on Parade", "In the Future", "Get in the Swing", and "Happy Hunting Ground"

frogbs, Thursday, 10 March 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i thought this was a sparks song for the longest time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh_PXrN1hNk

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

you know, way back when. dug out the espionage lp from a box this morning and i gotta keep it for that song. always loved it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought this was, at first, back in the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uia4dek9gfk

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ love this song SO much, and yeah Sparks definitely had to be an influence. I've had this LP for so long, and I can't remember how or why I acquired it.

Hardcore Bangage (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

DigalongaMacs?

(correct title, "Macs By Graves", but they bottled out of it)

I was recording it onto my laptop for playing later, but the turntable died, never to go again, during the track above.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

The "mind/Body" single got a lot of play on Radio Luxembourg back in the day, presumably was a bit too "explicit" for Radio1

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I read about "Digalongamacs" in the old Jem Records import catalog, and then bought it in a sale bin w/o ever having heard it.

Hardcore Bangage (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Could be fun!

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Sparks to perform at the Los Angeles Film Festival
Posted On: May 3rd 2011

We are delighted to announce that Sparks will be performing The Seduction Of Ingmar Bergman at the Los Angeles Film Festival.

The performance will take place on June 25th at the Ford Amphitheatre.

Originally commissioned by Swedish National Radio in 2009, this groundbreaking musical will be presented for the first time in a live setting in what might best be described as a "film-to-be" form. Acclaimed Canadian filmmaker Guy Maddin, who will direct the final feature film, will be onstage giving stage and cinematic directions throughout the performance, as the cast — including famed Finnish actor Peter Franzen as Ingmar Bergman, Ann Magnuson as Greta Garbo, and of course Russell and Ron Mael — performs the musical in its entirety. Projections have been created by production designer Galen Johnson to foreshadow the mood and atmosphere of the final film.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

Also: saw this on PBS in high school in the eighties, my introduction to Sparks, other than seeing their goofy album covers in record stores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwnl58sL-E

more horses after the main event (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

Now that I think about it I'm surprised Plagiarism was barely mentioned - for one they got Mike Patton at the height of his fame, and that seems like a pretty significant influence. For two the direction they took on some of those tracks clearly pointed towards what they'd do for like...the entire 21st Century (so far). And yet in the documentary it's like..."eh, we had no ideas"

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

I also tried listening to them all last year too, and stopped after slogging through Angst In My Pants, which at only 36 minutes seemed as long as Berlin Alexanderplatz.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link

Madness

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link

As for Plagiarism, they've spoken before about how they were essentially talked into it, preferring not to look back in general. I think if it had just been a straight-up tribute album they'd be happy with it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

Do the Maels or their fans in the film admit that any of the records were sub-standard?

― Halfway there but for you

I remember a few years back they were asked which was the worst Sparks album and they both answered Terminal Jive. I think it was in some questionnaire in Uncut Magazine maybe?

kitchen person, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 01:46 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Man, realized I forgot to post here about the LA show last month! Well, having seen that and last night's SF show to kick off the full tour, you absolutely want to go to this if you have even the slightest interest in the band. I've been seeing them regularly for a quarter of a century and every show has been great in its own way but both these recent shows were compact overviews of their whole career, and it's a great summary and perfect introduction to them if you're relatively new to them and a lovely retrospective if you're in deep like me. Ron dance in full effect of course, and Russell still has the pipes and energy to burn, not that I've ever seen him lack those. Good times for sure.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 March 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link

Aah, so jealous you got to see them at Disney Concert Hall! Definitely one of those times I was wishing I still lived in LA. I'll be seeing them next week at Big Ears though. Recent setlists look fantastic - I wish they were doing more from A Steady Drip, but hard to have any complaints about that song selection.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Saw them in New York last night. Great to see them on a much bigger stage. You can tell they've tailored the setlist to please people who saw the movie, but I don't care, it's all good. And they seemed genuinely thrilled by the reception they got. They said that both a new album and another movie musical is on the way. Amazing.

Position Position, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

I had to miss them in St. Paul, I was out of town. I love that they're doing "Under The Table With Her," one of my favoritest faves.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

They've signed to Island. 50 years after they last signed to Island. And a new album is coming 26 May (days before I see them in London).

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

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