...And Justice For All: 20 Years Later

Yeah, closest I've gotten to caring about Metallica lyrics (for better or worse) is liking the part where he goes "...damageincorporated".

Creeping Death is kind of cool

don't fuck with razorback

fuck it all and fucking no regrets

the other thing about this album is that for me anyway it is forever tethered to the hesher pride everybody felt when Metallica showed up at the Grammys and completely shredded everything in sight.

So true.

are they doing a vinyl reissue of this? i wonder if the remaster and being on vinyl would give it a little more bottom?

i think some dude recorded the bass parts himself and released the bass-enhanced version of the album. i can't remember what he called it... i think it might have mentioned cliff. perhaps "and justice for cliff" or something.

yeah i think thats right

AND JASON FOR ALL! YOU PEOPLE, SHEESH!

everybody who says To Live is To Die isn't good probably drinks their own pee.

No comparison to Call of Ktulu, no, but it has that really nice quiet passage in the middle....

Also the way the heavy part comes in all off time and ominous after the wimpy acoutsic intro. It's badass. Plus I think Cliff wrote the 'lyrics'

The love for "Frayed Ends of Sanity" here is baffling - come on guys. That Wizard of Oz shit at the beginning?

i was thinking of making a poll of songs that use that wizard of oz shit (prince, mos def, etc.).

listen to the riff underneath the solo in "frayed ends of sanity", that shit is awesome.

I'd love to see that poll! (Can't forget "Jungle Love".)

Me, I really could've done without "Harvester of Sorrow". But then we'd have had an 8-song album with a configuration/track sequence a little too similar to a watered-down Master of Puppets, which itself was a kinda rehash of Ride the Lightning. Diminishing returns, etc.

AND JASON FOR ALL! YOU PEOPLE, SHEESH!

i didn't name it!

everybody who says To Live is To Die isn't good probably drinks their own pee.

the former prime minister of india Morarji Desai drank his own urine for decades until his death at the age of 99. I'm not sure how he felt about that song however.

All this I cannot bear to witness.

AND JASON FOR ALL! YOU PEOPLE, SHEESH!

i just found it. it's called and justice for jason. it doesn't sound all that great. the dude who made it really overdid the bass, imho

didn't Cliff steal the 'lyrics' from To Live is to Die from some sci fi movie or something

It was a speech by Merlin from Excalibur!

The only good tune is "To Live Is To Die."

My god this is wrong.

Just listening to the intro to the title track and thinking it's one of the prettiest and saddest acoustic guitar passages I know.

this album is grate! Legend of Zelda metal!!!

production's a little bit eh but this album forever imo \m/ O_O \m/

I am my own best friend

that's a great record too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnatnzxxtFE

Some guy has done his own re-mix (upping Jason's bass) using the Rockband game....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvwod7BBK0

This record doesn't work with bass. That version of "Blackened" just sounds like...I don't know, Anthrax or something. The thin sound is half the point. AJFA is actually my favorite of the first four Metallica records, and the sound is a huge part of that.

total classic this album. oh how the mighty have fallen

The thin sound is half the point.

Yeah, the record's like an icey transmission from the wastelands.

Yeah, thin but effective. And as with so much metal, who really needs to hear the bass?

this album is a rare one that hasn't changed in standing with me since I first heard it. I like it a lot, but it has a dreadful middle including "Frayed Ends of Sanity", and "Harvester of Sorrow", which I"m sorry to say is still real boring, except for the middle instrumental break.

but the surrounding tracks, including the blistering Dyer's Eve, make up for it.

including "Frayed Ends of Sanity", and "Harvester of Sorrow", which I"m sorry to say is still real boring, except for the middle instrumental break.

The middle thrash out in Frayed is fucking epic, and I quite like the chorus as well.

Dyer's Eve is Hetfield's most heartfelt lyric and vocal performance ever, I think.

"Frayed End" has a good instrumental break in the middle, which would have enhanced a good-great song, but to me I can't get into it because I hate the verse and the chorus.

To Live is to Die though I love.

harvester of sorrow is actually one of the tracks i liked

This might actually be my favourite Metallica album by now.

Second to MoP for me.

for me it's MOP, then RTL, and it varies but is usually AJFA after that cuz Kill Em All is good but has a few tracks I'm not into.

sometimes RTL jumps to number one. the title track is just....wau

RTL for me personally

30th anniversary edition on its way

https://youtu.be/MqL04r775p4

"Metallica celebrate the 30th anniversary of their fourth album ...And Justice for All with a new “definitive” reissue. The remastered album will be released in a number of formats, including an enormous deluxe box set featuring live recordings, rough mixes, demos, interviews, and much more. It will also be available in standard edition on CD, vinyl, cassette, and digitally. It’s due out November 2 via the band’s owned Blackened Recordings."

This is still my favourite Metallica album. Dyer's Eve, some days, is my favourite Metallica song.

Don't think I'm that fussed about a reissue. I got enough thinly-baked-Walkman-hour dreams to last me a lifetime.

Album's great. Master of Puppets boxed set was awesome (once).

at this point i think master will always be "the best" but justice is probably the one i'm most interested in listening to today

Alternating beat syncopation on Blackened gets me every time

This album is a monument, still the Metallica album I pull out, and I keep finding things (usually the cool riffs under solo sections that I didn't notice before)

Frayed Ends of Sanity has the best one (and everything else)

Maybe it'll inspire another debate about the bass tracks.....

Oh god, I hope not - at this point the whole thing about Jason's bass on this record is the least possible interesting line of discussion - some of Metallica's most complex/intricate compositions are on this album, and the production has aged quite well - given what it could have sounded like with all the production trappings that were the norm in 1988.

no, but there's a pinup calendar with him shirtless

Cliff's rack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8

https://i.imgur.com/FfpCe3A.png

I can't accept this album with bass, it feels like less of a cold, steel sculpture.

I played bass on "One" in my band in high-school, I had to learn the basslines from a transcription book because I couldn't hear them even reading the sheet music. I wonder now if they just made the basslines up (or maybe studied Jason's hands in concert).

they had a cow interpret the frequencies

The only place on the album it's audible to me is the intro to "Eye of the Beholder".

To live is to jason

I hit the final stage of Acceptance with the bass on this album long ago.

It is what it is, and at this point, it's like complaining about the lack of bass on "When Doves Cry".

what's weird about this album for me specifically is that when I was a kid I had a copied cassette version of this album, which was copied from another copied cassette, so I always thought it sounded kind of weird and not very dynamic, but always assumed that's what happened when you listened to a cassette that was a copy of a copy. Then 10 years later as an adult, I randomly buy this album on CD when stumbling upon it in a used CD store and I put it on thinking I would finally hear this album the way it's supposed to sound and it sounds basically the same as my cassette copy.

Still my most listened to Metallica album by far, that shitty cassette copy got a lot of plays.