Albums and songs referencing James Joyce

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Can it be taken on faith that the word "scrotumtightening" simply must have popped up in a metal/hardcore song at one time or another?

I guess its just the word 'trendy' that befuddles me, PB. IMO Joyce is canonized, one of the greats, and therefore bypasses trends since he will be sought out and read by many no matter what. If hipsters start blinding themselves in one eye to earn streetcred, well...

erklie, Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Joyce references are a conscious way to make people think you're more erudite and trendy than you really are.

What are people who make wanky statements like this trying to prove then?

Maybe lots of people really like Joyce.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of people do really like Joyce... I would be surprised if there weren't a couple of posers who used him as a badge of erudition, but to be honest I think that they're minute in numbers and possibly less offensive than the people who accuse everyone who mentions Joyce of being pretentious (ANTI-INTELLECTUALISTS = INSECURE STUPID PEOPLE).

emil.y (emil.y), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm surprised Stephen Malkmus has never mentioned him as an influence.

"The great fall of the offwall entailed at such short notice the pftjschute of Finnegan, erse solid man, that the humptyhillhead of humself prumptly sends an unquiring one well to the west in quest of his tumptytumtoes: and their upturnpikepointandplace is at the knock out in the park where oranges have been laid to rust upon the green since devlinsfirst loved livvy.”- James Joyce, Finnegan's Wake

Wouldn't sound out of place on Wowee Zowee.

Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 11 April 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

ha, missy's "makin all you other rappers begin again / like finnegan" just made me say WAIT WAIT WAIT out loud to no one (well, to missy)

difficult listening hour, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

"Rattle my bones over the stones/I'm only a beggarman, nobody owns".
This folk song or nursery rhyme appears in Ulysses, and caught the attention of this Smiths fan who read it back in the day.
I once pointed this out to Pete Shelley when I forced him into conversation at a gig. He just quoted Eliot at me and made a swift exit: "Mediocre artists borrow, great artists steal."

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

The Go-Betweens "Karen"
Helps me find Hemingway
Helps me find Genet
Helps me find Brecht
Helps me find Chandler
Helps me find James Joyce
She always makes the right choice

Trip Maker, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

Missy line is referencing "Michael Finnegan" nursery rhyme which isn't the same song that FW gets its title from, tho i'm sure it's in the book somewehre.

got a feeling the "rattle my bones" bit in Ulysses is a memory of a nursery rhyme too so Morrissey cd be quoting the source

Chimp Arsons, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VhwFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA200&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

k the internet has some uses

Chimp Arsons, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

Molly Bloom's soliloquy is also the finale of Firesign Theater's "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once..."

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

3rd Bass - "Portrait of the Artist As A Hood"

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link


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