The Kinks 1963-1970 : Classic or Dud + Search and Destroy

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Classic. high point being Face To Face through Village Green.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 March 2003 00:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Animal Farm!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 17 March 2003 09:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't stop listening to 'Afternoon Tea' now. I never listened to it properly before and thought it was a bit twee.

I consider "Afternoon Tea" the best ever non-single by The Kinks.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 17 March 2003 11:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Victoria

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I keep telling myself I'm not going to buy anymore Kinks albs. I already a really good greatest hits and the double-disc BBC set, and y'know, to get more would be at the exclusion of buying other, probably newer music. But I can't help myself. I bought Face to Face, and then Kinda Kinks, and I know that before long I'll have at least this 63-70 run of albums.
There are just TOO MANY great songs to not hear them all. I'm not usually completist like this. In fact I went through a very difficult ritual to cleanse myself of that disease, but I can't help myself anymore.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Horace, you need it all up to Muswell Hilbillies.

Classic, all the way.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 17 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't stop listening to 'Afternoon Tea' now. I never listened to it properly before and thought it was a bit twee.

Ray Davies wrote a book of short stories based around his songs a few years ago- can't remember the title, but the story based on "Afternoon Tea" was a highlight (the one on "Rock & Roll Fantasy" is cold, hard truth for us music geeks.)

Something Else By The Kinks = Best Kinks album! It's got Ray Davies' usual wonderful pop stuff PLUS some damn great Dave Davies Power Pop (which can't be said about Village Green, except maybe "Big Sky")

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yo, all I know is that it's springtime and Kinda Kinks was the absolute best soundtrack to driving artound with the top down today.

Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

More needs to be said about Arthur. It's got a few weak spots, and some of the performances could be better, but I think the flaws are more than made up for by "Some Mother's Son" and especially "Shangri-La," the most wrenching song the Kinks ever did. It's just perfect: the quiet fierceness of the verse, the somber horns, the way Ray sings "You can't go anywhere," then the crazy out-of-nowhere "All the houses in the street have got a name/Cuz all the houses in the street they look the same!" bit. Every time I hear them charge into the chorus ("Shangri-LAAAAAAAA") I think they might be my favorite band, period, not just my favorite Sixties band.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Now I can't stop listening to 'Drivin'.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Totally classic up to and including Muswell Hillbillies, intermittently classic thereafter.

J (Jay), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Only one person has mentioned "Days." The song's virtue is its directness. I find almost beyond affecting.

Amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 22 March 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like the songs with Rasa.

"Berkeley Mews" is good.

"Dedicated Follower of Fashion" is far superior to "Well Respected Man." "Dandy" is all right.

I went back and listened to all of them from "Kontroversy" thru "Muswell." "Face to Face" is still my pick for the only really essential one. "Village Green Preservation" had lost a lot of its allure, as had "Something Else." I do like "End of the Season" and love "Funny Face." "Arthur" except for "Victoria" and "Drivin'" sounded just as uninspired as ever. I don't much care for the stuff on "Great Lost Kinks" album although I'm glad I have it. "20th Century Man" is great.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Saturday, 22 March 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

You find Shangri-La uninspired? Hell, you find Some Mother's Son and Yes Sir, No Sir, uninspired? Australia? Young and Innocent Days?

:-(

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 23 March 2003 05:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry--I just find that kind of thing too obvious--some kinda bad musical number or something. Which is what a lot of Kinks music is, I think, so maybe that's the point. The more specific it is, the less it's trying to make some big point about the decline of the British empire or way of life--as if I care to begin with--the better I like it. And that's not mentioning RD's horrible later stuff, like that idiot song about Hollywood Boulevard...

Jess Hill (jesshill), Sunday, 23 March 2003 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love Celluloid Heroes! It's great!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love Celluloid Heroes! It's great!

I do too, but the lyrics are a bit odd- Greta Garbo, Betty Davis and Maryiln Monroe are all typecast as these poor weak females who couldn't deal (and we all know the truth's alot more complicated than that), while Valentino, Lugosi and Rooney just get blindingly obvious remarks about their image (Valentino's randy, Rooney's nice, Lugosi played vampires a lot) w/o any mention of the tragedy in their lives. I hate to politicise everything (especially a song as pretty as this one), but that song's got some major gender issues.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I remember John Mendelsohn complained about the lyrics to "Celluloid Heroes" in the liner notes to the Kinks Kronikles. He thought the "stars on Hollywood Blvd./actual movie stars" metaphor was too obvious or corny or something. It always sounded great to me. And the melody is timeless.

Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 24 March 2003 07:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
I bought the Kinks Ultimate Collection (2 CDs) and it seems like more than enough of the Kinks for me. Maybe they aren't as underrated as all that after all. I see people making comparisons to the Beatles, but I truly think the Beatles are way ahead. I do like several of their songs, but the earliest stuff seems to follow a very narrow formula, so a few songs are enough for me. Also the clever social observation in songs like "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" or "Plastic Man" is really annoying. I might conceivably check out The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society though.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, you should! I think, Village Green is one of the few albums one should own by the band, outside of a singles collection. Reminds me, I should order teh box set.

I'm beginning to think I talk too much about The Kinks on ILM. Well, that album at least.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone else think that 'Animal Farm' on the Village Green album sounds like a template for most of Echo and the Bunnymen's material?

Andy Miller's recently published book about the Village Green album is a good read, if you're into that kind of thing.

Rick Spence (spencerman), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
has anyone besides me seen wim wenders's the american friend?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 July 2004 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw American Friend...it's been a while...

i think the best kinks kompilation is "kronikles." i don't think it's been remastered? the LPs sound truly lousy, like mono reprocessed for stereo. but the song selection is pretty much definitive.

over the years i've come to like the kinks less. i enjoy the early snotty stuff most these days and have a bit less patience for things like "village green" and "arthur." "face to face" and "something else" are the best albums-as-albums in my opinion; "muswell hillbillies" is nice too. there are a lot of cool b-sides, like "creeping jean." i like earlier obscure album tracks like "i'm on an island" and "gotta get the first plane home" as well. but i listen to them far less than i do the easybeats these days. and after 1970, i think they're fairly worthless except for a smattering of tracks--those koncept albums are pretty dire.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 23 July 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
arthur has jam band elements, doesn't it? i really like track 11.

youn, Monday, 20 March 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"i think the best kinks kompilation is "kronikles." i don't think it's been remastered? the LPs sound truly lousy, like mono reprocessed for stereo. but the song selection is pretty much definitive."

The sound on the current Reprise CD is just as bad. However, the song selection is impeccable (add these two discs with the best-of Rhino released about a decade ago, and you have one hell of a three disc set of essential pre-1971 Kinks). If I'm not mistaken, all of the tracks on -Kinks Kronikles- have appeared on the Castle remasters - if you have all of them, you can burn your own version of Kronikles which much superior sound.

James, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

IIRC "She's Got Everything" didn't make the cut w/Castle. Which is sad cuz it's an awesome track.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn, you are correct. And it is a terrific song.

James, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Some great stuff out there. Would have loved to hear stereo mixes of a lot of their 65-66 output though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

And, btw, one singles compilation plus their 66-69 quartet of albums should give you the most important stuff. You may also add "The Kinks Kontroversy". And make sure the compilation includes "Stop Your Sobbing" which is one of their best ever songs.

The 70s catalogue is not worthy at all. 70s-80s Kinks is heavily overrated.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"The 70s catalogue is not worthy at all. 70s-80s Kinks is heavily overrated."

I love Muswill Hillbillies and Everybody's In Showbiz, and the first Preservation album has a few good songs (like "Sweet Lady Genevieve."). Past that, yeah, I can't disagree, though there are some highlights here and there. The three albums the Kinks cut for MCA in the late 80's (UK Jive, Live:The Road and Think Visual) are quite henious, from what I remember. I couldn't bear to listen to them much.

James, Monday, 20 March 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I absolutely despise "Mushwell Hillbillies". There is something about the most archetypical English sounding band of all time, trying to sound typically American for once, that I just can't tolerate.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Kinks OPX

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"There is something about the most archetypical English sounding band of all time, trying to sound typically American for once"

Which is one reason why I like it. The thing is, even though they are trying to "sound American," the songs are still a series of portraits of English life ("Have a Cuppa Tea?" Not American). The title gives it away, since Muswill Hill is a section of London. If the Kinks had tried to sound American in the matter of the Rolling Stones I might not like the record. But it' still the Kinks writing songs about English life to me, just in a different set of clothes, so to speak.

James, Monday, 20 March 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

The Kinks
Lola Versus Powerman and The Moneygoround Part One
50th Anniversary, Multi-Format, Album Re-issues
Out December 18 on BMG
Available to Order Now: https://thekinks.lnk.to/Lola50AnniversaryPR
New Track "The Follower - Any Time 2020" https://thekinks.lnk.to/AnyTime2020PR

Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One, commonly abbreviated to Lola Versus Powerman, or just Lola, is the eighth studio album by The Kinks, recorded and released in 1970. A concept album ahead of its time, it’s a satirical appraisal of the music industry, including song publishers, unions, the press, accountants, business managers, and life on the road. One of the all time classic Kinks albums.

Let the 50th anniversary celebrations begin, as The Kinks unveil special multi-format release plans for the album as a lovingly produced Deluxe Box Set, 1LP, Deluxe 2CD, 1CD and digitally - to be released on December 18 via BMG.

• Limited Edition, Deluxe 10” Slipcased book pack (containing 60 page book, 3 X CDs, 2 X 7” singles, 4 X color prints)
• 1LP Gatefold
• 2CD Hardback Book
• 1CD Softpack
• Digital
• HD Digital
• D2C Limited Edition Exclusives (free with boxset orders): 7” Single, Enamel pin badge

The 50th Anniversary box set campaign launches with a brand new Ray Davies’ remix / medley of the Kinks track "Any Time" (titled "The Follower - Any Time 2020 Feat: Anytime by The Kinks"). https://thekinks.lnk.to/AnyTime2020PR

Originally written by Ray as a possible B-side for "Apeman", "Any Time" includes previously unreleased versions and excerpts of several Kinks tracks from the Lola album as well as added spoken word and sound effects. It is a concept piece about which Ray states “The isolation caused by Coronavirus can give people time to re-evaluate the world and re-assess their lives. Music can comfort the lonely, transcend time and it’s not the future or the past, yesterday, today or tomorrow. It’s anytime”. He adds, “I saw a way of making this unreleased 1970s track connect to an audience in 2020. I also saw a way of showing that music can time-travel, that memory is instantaneous and therefore can join us in the ‘now’. I put this together as something surreal then realized that it was really happening. The song has found its place - after its 50th Birthday!”

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

awesome they're repressing it, vinyl copies are like 40 bucks minimum

frogbs, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link


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