Do we like the Scissor Sisters?

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Next year.. 26 January perhaps? (that's a week after Comfortably Numb is released as a single in the UK)

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 19 December 2003 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks, Ed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 19 December 2003 03:00 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Bravo, Scissors Sisters! Jed, you summed it up when you said

"i surprise myself by liking it so much. "

Indeed!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:36 (twenty years ago) link

That Bowery Ballroom show was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. They've got the looks, the starpower, and the songs. If they aren't at least halfway big by the end of 2004, then the world just cruel.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Also: A full review (with setlist) of the show, plus an mp3 of "Better Luck Next Time" will be on my blog for a while.

UK ILM folks: go see this band when they tour your country over the next six weeks.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

They were on T4 last week doing "Comfortably numb" which was released in 2002 originally - they have other good stuff they could have played. I get the feeling this record will just keep getting delayed indefinately.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Seeing them in B'ham on the 8th Feb, looking forward to it more now. I hope they do Electrobix though.

Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

I doubt they'll do "Electrobix" - they've kinda gone in a different direction. I was kinda hoping for "Backwoods," but they probably don't do any of the songs from that demo album which didn't make the proper record. Everything they played that wasn't on the forthcoming were b-sides to upcoming singles or new unrecorded songs.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

Hurrah hurrah, I am Sheffieldin' them at the leadmill, um, mid-feb sometime. DEAR CHRIST they are nice to look at. Should I anticipate pyrotechnics?

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

I saw them in Manchester the other month. They were good but it wasn't well-attended. They didn't play Electrobix.

Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link

There probably won't be pyrotechnics, but Jake Shears will likely not wear a shirt.

The dude is BUFF.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

I expect there to be about seven people at the Brum one.

Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'm so disappointed at that tracklisting.

This band are so good.

But I really loved the tunes (Make way for the man, Backwoods, Monkey Baby) which are like rocky diva-house. Its such an unexpected combo...

And it seems like that's being lost, huh.

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

Jacob, I'm disappointed about them dropping Backwoods too, but I think that they've done a good thing with the album. I don't think they are necessarily abandoning that more electro sound, because when I saw them they played one new song that was definitely in that style, and it was a highlight of the show. The first LP is a bit more glam rock, but it works as a cohesive album, and I think they probably were considering how to make the biggest splash, and what they could best pull off live on tour. The electro/housey stuff may be better suited for singles, maybe.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

I thought we agreed that Take Your Mama Out had to be the next single?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

I guess I have to hear it.

Btw, Matthew, I think they have to get massive respect purely for being a band that you, I and Joe all like unequivocally, which is pretty rare.

Also, I'm enormously jealous of you going to that gig, cos the likelihood of them ever coming to Singapore is remote, to say the least...

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, don't we all like lots of hip-hop acts? Only *white* band we like, maybe...

Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

"Take Your Mama Out" is the third single in the UK, after "Comfortably Numb."

The Scissor Sisters in Singapore! Ha!

Flyboy is right, by the way. And wait, don't we all like LCD Soundsystem?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

Not unequivocally.

Too arch, too tryhard (some of the time, anyhow).

I positively loathe 'losing my edge' now.

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, okay. I glossed over the 'unequivocal' part.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

So, at the risk of completely rotting this thread, the first thing that comes to mind that I think we all unequivocally agree on would be Jay-Z, right?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

the bowery ballroom show was one of the worst i have ever seen. i think i broke my all time record for speed of getting the hell out of a gig. it was excrutiating painful on every level imaginable (although i should have probably hung around long enough to see fred schneider).

oh, and the manager of the bowery ballroom is officially A DICK!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

What did you hate?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

er, the songs, the look, the 'lets use every bad gay cliche in the book' ness, the between song banter ('this one's for the fierce ladies in the house'), the sheen of their sound, the guitar playing, the overall blandness of every song, the overt 'trying too hard to be fun and quirky' nature....

fuck, they made junior fucking senior seem like joy division.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

(although i should have probably hung around long enough to see fred schneider)

hey, we had drinking to do.
seriously, though... i was disappointed. i'm not big on comfortably numb, but i do like the other stuff i've heard. live they were just a big dud for me - very flat. i realize that they're not the deepest act going, but there wasn't the sparkle there to make it fun.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

i wasn't big on comfortably numb either but laura really grew on me.i know they are meant to be a fun act but there is fun and there is trying too hard. i should have been forwarned when some of my friends had said 'you'll love it'. a sure fire sign i'll hate it!

sorry i didn't see you there matthew. or maybe just as well as i'd probably just have rained on yr parade.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

fuck, they made junior fucking senior seem like joy division.

oh i am gonna LOVE seeing this band onstage.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

I honestly don't think they are trying too hard - I mean, yeah, they clearly push their aesthetic to stylistic excess, but I think it comes somewhat naturally to them and it appeals to me quite a bit. I like that kind of flamboyant showmanship. I like the polish and the sheen. They are super pop, and it's hard to meet them halfway, probably.

Yeah, it's too bad I didn't see you, Stirmonster. It's true, though, I was having a pretty good time and I wouldn't have really wanted to hear anything negative about the show at the time.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

I am upset at the removal of some of the more abject mentalism from the demo album, but damn, the overblown Moonage Daydream-y version of Return to Oz is great

Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago) link

so, what was the deal with this again ? the album's out
next week with what looks like two more tracks than mentioned upthread (according to amazon uk at least) but, was there was an original totally different version that they ditched (the one with electrobix on)? or was it just a totally different album that's already available ? who's the expert on this ?

thanx !

piscesboy, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

christ i missed this thread completely - i think i am about to be totally sold by them anyhow

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

i still like comfortably numb a lot

minna (minna), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

The original album is of demos, possibly recorded for a US label 18 months ago - not too sure on this. It wasn't released, nor intended for release.

They're good - some spectacularly so, but some of the songs sound unfinished - Return To Oz is the best case of this, it's the weakest song on the demo album but one of the strongest on the finished album. Of course, haven't heard the tracks that are on the final album that weren't on the promo.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

Album not so good then, IMHO. Thoughts?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

Then again this just wasn't what I wanted it to be, which is "Bobby Conn with DFA beats".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

UK ILM folks: go see this band when they tour your country over the next six weeks.

Matthew, thanks for the recommendation. I've just come back from seeing them live, and they were fantastic. Some of the tracks didn't work so well on the album I though (though everyone raved about them), like Music is the Victim and Tits on the Radio, but live it was ace. And Filthy/Gorgeous live (with the spoken bit) was just brilliant.. it's probably my favourite track off the album as well.

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 00:47 (twenty years ago) link

Oh and is anyone else seeing them in their UK tour?

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 00:47 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, the UK bonus tracks are OK, but not great.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 05:20 (twenty years ago) link

Errr... I must say the press around this lot had me intrigued!!!! Until I heard that flipping "Comfortably Numb" cover tho!!!!! Don't get me wrong, it's not actually BAD or anything- in fact, it's quite pleasant, and therein lies the problem!!!! With the image projected ahead of them, I was expecting something considerably more in your face and less polite than the sort of music used to advertise "Diamonique Bracelet Hour" on QVC!!!!! If this equals "big gay songs", the Air's "Talkie Walkie" is the New Wave of S&M!!!!!!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

I agree that the UK bonus tracks are good, but not great. "Rock My Spot (Crevice Canyon)," which is the b-side to "Comfortably Numb" is much better.

Out of curiosity, Jellybean - did they perform "It Can't Come Quickly Enough" or "Return To Oz" when you saw them?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

They didn't do either of those at the Birmingham show which was frustrating as they're my favourite ones off the new album. They finished with Filthy Gorgeous (sans monologue, I think?) and did Music Is The Victim as an encore.

I love Tits On The Radio, but it is miles better live yeah, they did it with a synth bassline instead of a guitar and it sounded immense.

ferg (Ferg), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

i just got the album (thank you amazon uk!). is it bad to say that i like the demo version of 'laura (simone)' an eense better than the version on the full-length?

maura (maura), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

They ditched all the monologues in Brum, possibly in protest at the ugly stage and the crash barriers.

Comfortably Numb sounded an awful lot beefier live than on record too. But generally it was all quite smashing, ignoring the shortness of the set and the Worst Support Band Ever (Syntax - A Tribute To The Solo Work Of Dave Gahan)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

I cower before Syntax's awfulness.

ferg (Ferg), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago) link

yeah. they didn't do those 2 songs in Oxford. I guess the set is pretty similar for the entire tour.

Syntax were crap. I got so annoyed with them, I didn't understand why everyone around me was getting really into their set and raving it up.

jellybean (jellybean), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago) link

I dissent! I dissent! We luuurved Syntax at the Leicester Charlotte on Monday (although after the 1st support act, one David Wrench, a hopeless Matt Johnson soundalike who MURDERED Radiohead's Creep, anything would have sounded good). A bit like Dirty Vegas (oh, stop your tutting: DV made dull records but they sounded great live).

The Scissor Sisters played the album MINUS It Can't Come Quickly Enough, Mary & Return To Oz, i.e. all the slow stuff. This was my one disappointment with what was otherwise a typically fantastic set (3rd time I've seen them). They also played The Skins, Rock My Spot (Crevice Canyon), and two new unrecorded songs which I think Matthew mentioned on his Fluxblog review: a fabulous throbbing campy disco stormer probably called Magnifique (a bit Lene Lovich in places, and a dead cert future hit), and a reggae-tinged tune (a bit Ace Of Base in places, if truth be told, but nice enough).

Ropey sound at the start was sorted out after the second song, and after an interlude during which Ana Matronic improvised a "performance art" piece based around her favourite trashy US soap, while the band improvised a suitably filmic soundtrack. They got off on the Charlotte being such a sleazy, sweaty, dark hole of a joint, ("We love playing places like this!") comparing it to CBGB's.

Highlights were the best version I've heard them do of C.Numb, and the aforementioned Magnifique. Main set ended with Filthy/Gorgeous, Jake started the encore with an impromptu accapella of a Sinatra song, beautifully sung but I forget which song, then the band encored with Music Is The Victim.

Quite a few grizzly old hippies knocking around the venue, who had presumably come along on account of Comfortably Numb (I spotted plentiful sage head-nodding when this was played). Why, one of them even hugged me for wearing a Camembert Electrique T-shirt...

What I like about the Scissor Sisters on stage: their immense enjoyment in performing, and the balance between their larger-than-life personas and an utterly down-to-earth, unassuming quality. Still my favourite band, then.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

I used to know somebody in a synthpoppish band called Syntax - any sites/pics around?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

That's too bad that they didn't do "Mary" for you all - that was one of the highlights when I saw them in NYC.

I'm wondering right now if they never play "It Can't Come Quickly Enough" and "Return To Oz" - the latter seems like a pretty obvious live tune to me. If I saw them do "...Quickly Enough," I'd probably get tears of joy! I've come to really love that song.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link

I'm wondering: Was Ana's favorite trashy soap by any chance The OC?

Also, does anyone know if they are doing any radio sessions or having any of their shows broadcast on the radio while they are in Europe?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

i thought it made sense that they didn't play any of the slower songs. Most of the audience there would only have heard Comfortably Numb and maybe Laura, so if they played the slower stuff the set might have dragged a bit

jellybean (jellybean), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

Don Bluth did a freaking video of theirs!

Probably my favorite song of theirs, too.

i'm shy (Abbott), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

>8 SIZZCORE 4 LIFE 8<

i'm shy (Abbott), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

scissor sisters really need to cover tim curry's "i do the rock"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiLNCJdXmX0

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Night Work is actually kind of an amazing album.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Friday, 7 January 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep. Some discussion here...
scissor sisters are back! back!! back!!!

Dr. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 7 January 2011 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I like most everything on the album except "Comfortably Numb."

A. I don't like Floyd's original all that much.
B. I hate Bee Gees impersonations.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, November 6, 2003 9:37 PM (10 years ago)

I was being an a-hole that day. Floyd's original is a great song and I rather like Bee Gees impersonations. Pretty sure these were my feelings at the time, too, so my early days on ILM were full of fake contrarianism.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 June 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

s & d :: desert sessions is a thread I keep reviving and receiving very little interest, so I'm reaching out to its members' home threads.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Do we like the Scissor Sisters? A little, but certainly loving the new Jake Shears album especially the house stylings of ‘Doses’.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 4 June 2023 14:31 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, I was really impressed with this. I like the Italo disco influences on the second half. It goes quite dark in places.

kitchen person, Monday, 5 June 2023 14:20 (ten months ago) link

seven months pass...

And suddenly out of nowhere, Jake guesting on TR/ST's just-released cover of "Being Boring."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFA9huryUek

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 05:09 (two months ago) link

<3

nxd, Friday, 26 January 2024 07:44 (two months ago) link


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