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I didn't think his disease could be cured by any medicine.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, when you don't really post to the message board and only come here once or twice and post snarky stuff then you've got to get the mental health services involved.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

he's out there...watching...waiting...

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link

watching...waiting...
masturbating?

it rhymed. cut me a break.

ben welsh (benwelsh), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

Congrats Todd and the whole stylus crew! Looks nice!

I am using IE 5 and the album reviews on the left do not have enough space between artist, title, etc. I will IM Todd about when I get back from work.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

My favorite thing about the site is the graphic first-letter on each article. That is really classy.

Nice job, Todd.

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

how is that four-line drop cap going to work the next time Southall submits a one-sentence review? ; )

scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

Each word gets its own line break from now on.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure I like the spacing between paragraphs (a break too long?).

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

Yes!! This is brilliant, I can finally read Stylus without my browser crashing. And it looks good, too.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

nick, are there any other stylus writers besides you and i (and i suppose scott) who write for stylus and post/lurk at ilm ... BUT WERENT DISCOVERED VIA ILM?!

samuel, Friday, 5 September 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link

it would be cool if there was a site that wrote about their experience with the record rather than trying to teach me about it.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 5 September 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

nick, are there any other stylus writers besides you and i (and i suppose scott) who write for stylus and post/lurk at ilm ... BUT WERENT DISCOVERED VIA ILM?!

matthew weiner posts here as naiveteenidol.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 5 September 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

Right. I'm surprised Hutlock doesn't post.

samuel, Friday, 5 September 2003 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

I WAS discovered via ILM, actually. Todd emailed me after seeing me here.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 5 September 2003 10:00 (twenty years ago) link

This is gorgeous. Old Stylus was ugly. Good work Todd! (And Kenan?)

It was partly me, yes, though I'm not going to take too much credit since I didn't do all that I said I would. I picked the colors, designed the logo and header and picked the fonts, laid out the individual pages, and wrote some of the code. I had nothing to do with the front page, but whoever did did an excellent job, apart from some stylesheet problems that are easily fixed (i.e. -- the text spacing and padding is all screwy).

It does look much better. Yay Todd!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 7 September 2003 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, "The site looks hot!hot!hot!" says The Irrepressible Matthew Weiner. And nice work Kenan (and Todd?)!! ;-)

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 7 September 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

Ott says, "The front page is further PFork raiding (and poorly coded/laid out at that)..."

I didn't realize Pitchfork had the patent on HTML.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 7 September 2003 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

i write for stylus, but only started posting here recently-- i personally was mined from the old pitchfork board, heh.

the new design is amazing and the writing is just getting better and better-- every feature is slam dunk it seems. it makes me wish i hadn't lost the small shred of writing spark i used to have. i wish i could contribute more than i have been this summer.

todd (along with nick and keenan, natch) is the hardest working man on the internet, and it's finally paying off big time. bravo.

colin mcelligatt, Sunday, 7 September 2003 03:27 (twenty years ago) link

I am not the hardest working man in or on anything or anywhere. Todd, on the other hand, is absolutley Japanese in his work ethic.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 7 September 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

The Mercury Music thing was depressing in its gleeful stupidity (especially if it was meant to be); it read like a BNP FAP in Welling.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 08:19 (twenty years ago) link

They tried to sign me but Roman Abramovich offered me more. Serious answer I just don't have the time and I write for the devils euro now.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 08:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still pursuing you, Ronan...

I'm sorry you didn't like the Mercury piece, Marcello. I wasn't sure how it would turn out and it was done very quickly, more as an irreverent aside than anything else. Initially it was going to be a Pop Playground but ended up too long. Comparing it to "a BNP FAP in Welling" is a bit harsh though, I think.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

No surrender, no surrender, no surrender to Ath-ath-lete.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:01 (twenty years ago) link

Excerpts from the piece in question:

Dom: There ’s that Brummie guy with the stupid name!

Dom: Kenko Soweto?

Swygart: Soweto Kinch.

Dom: That ’s the bugger.

Dom: What musical genre is he again?

Swygart: It ’s hip-hop. It ’s jazz. It ’s craziness.

Our two correspondents think it funny to laugh at black people's names and black music. Yes, all these jungle bunnies are crazy, aren't they?

Dom: I think Dizzee Rascal ’s fans put me off really.

Swygart: Dizzee is also going down the chart fairly slowly too, only dropped nine places this week.

Dom: They ’re all white guys with deliberately messy hair and stupid tee-shirts and dads who play golf.

Swygart: Well, the ones who write about him are, anyway.

Er, that includes me, and also by extension yourselves. So insult your colleagues into the bargain.

I took Stylus off my CoM links because of this article, and also K-Punk for similar sexist rubbish. Zero tolerance.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:06 (twenty years ago) link

I can only say sorry.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:24 (twenty years ago) link

Marcello... actually, no.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:32 (twenty years ago) link

Zero tolerance.

Just out of interest, why is it okay to overlook such attitudes in pop music you like (ie CoM's Dizzee review) and not in tossed-off pieces of glib web-writing? Why is Church of Me recommending Boy In Da Corner despite your argument that it also contains what you upthread call "sexist rubbish"? Why apply zero-tolerance to one field and not another?

I'm not being facetious, I'm interested in your reasoning for this.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:41 (twenty years ago) link

haha trife to thread.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

Larkin's law.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 09:55 (twenty years ago) link

Look, Marcello... are you that bored you have to argue? Seriously? Because if so... fine. Whatever.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:12 (twenty years ago) link

Are you that bored that you have to post a stupid "article" like that in the first place? Is the Mercury Mucus Prize even worth writing about?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:16 (twenty years ago) link

I asked my question first. Notice the use of "crazy" to describe indie later on the article as well, boy. Does that mean the article is racist to whites as well?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:18 (twenty years ago) link

"boy." We're not on the plantation any more. Perhaps you didn't realise.

Marcello (boy?) Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link

I think people need to jettison the Popbitch "pram-face" creed to which most bloggers seem to be subscribing at present.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sure there are more worthy targets than tossed-off interweb irreverent-opinion pieces, Marcello.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Haven't you got some 2,000 word article on the intense sonic soundscapes created by the Thunderbugs you could bore the blog world by posting?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:22 (twenty years ago) link

Nick, there's a difference between being irreverent and being offensive.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:23 (twenty years ago) link

But some people can be both.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link

Yourself, for instance.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

Oh no, I've been burnt. Hey, try that line about how all football fans are racist again boy, that was a cracker of a line that one.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:29 (twenty years ago) link

Since I edited the piece in question I guess I should take some of the blame, as I didn't omit the offending statements. But the reason I didn't omit them was because I didn't think they were offensive, either in content or context. No one else has mentioned it, and in fact quite a few people have said it was a good fun piece, which is all it was ever meant to be.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:31 (twenty years ago) link

Nick Southall? Nick Griffin more, um, like.

(Hey, you can have that one for free Marcello)

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:33 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and boy, while you're on your rampage against terms like "pramface" and "council" for the bigotry they contain, perhaps you'd care to explain the "a big fuck you to the dole office" comment on the latest CoM. Or perhaps instead you could just raise "issues" to disguise your lack of point.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:36 (twenty years ago) link

For free? You get what you pay for. Ha.

False Name, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:38 (twenty years ago) link

In his early years Norman Jay was fucked about big-time and generally treated like shit by the DHSS - on a racial level as well as a social level. Thus the "fuck you to the dole office" in reference to his recent MBE, i.e. to those bureaucrats who told him he was nothing, a worthless piece of shit.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think the article is racist - the "stupid name" comment was stupid at worst (actually, its no more or less stupid a name as 'Dom Passantino'), but nowhere NEAR as offensive to me as the term "jungle bunnies" even used ironically.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link

Keep telling yourself that Marcello.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:35 (twenty years ago) link

Exactly Matt. I've lost count of the times people have riffed on my name (Domino's Pizza you say? Ho ho ho). I hardly think each and every single one of those guys was a raging xenophobe.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:37 (twenty years ago) link

Never mind the article anyway; what do people think of the graphic design on the banner-link to it from the frontpage? Isn't that picture beautiful? (i.e. it's one of mine, as are quite a lot of the stock images on Stylus...)

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

Uggh, I got mentioned in that Stylus goodbye as well. Both OK with that and totally embarrassed at the same time.

Hey at least you got mentioned!

Aziz Ansari & III (jaymc), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

writing for this magazine was the second half of my adolescence and the reason i've gotten any work anywhere so yeah <3. the ideal writers' mag: polyvocal, always up for stuff, and unsustainable.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I am happy I got mentioned, I am imagining that I got noticed mostly for being a good poster, but sure wish I could take back some of my comments. Great site though, thoroughly miss it.

grandavis, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

ha, i just found a stylus 'stycast' podcast on an old drive - an interview that todd did with me for stylus in 2005!

geeta, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

The Stycasts were great. There was a very amusing one about 60s/70s stars trying to transition to the 80s.

Gukbe, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

lmao @ inconceivably atrocious, bully is a stone cold classic imo

Stylus Magazine said the song was "undoubtley" Fatboy Slim's "finest moment to date", noting "the ten-minute house anthem “Song for Shelter”, whose redemptive power was so awesome that it almost saved Larry Clark’s inconceivably atrocious film Bully simply by gracing the last scene."[1]

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

what's up with the Stylus website lately? their album reviews don't seem to be accessible anymore (and even the Archives link yields a 404 error) although their features and movie reviews are still online...

hippie lady from california who loves that god (unregistered), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

awww so glad you care

The site's slowly crumbling. I've been transferring reviews to my blog.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

I've done the same thing with my reviews.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link

i still occasionally start typing in stylusmagazine into the search bar, from muscle memory, whenever i'm wandering the internet looking for something new

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link

cuz we still rule

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link


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