'Creepy' ambient music

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I do not know what that says about me... ;)

It says many worthy things!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

There you are Gaz. Er, no, there isn't.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:50 (twenty years ago) link

i actually have a disc anyway :-). (btw, and off thread WKOSA...you have any recordings?)

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I do! Bits and pieces on DAT all over the place. You want?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:15 (twenty years ago) link

of course. email me?

gaz (gaz), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

All the ZF recommendations are good ones - I also wanna toss in the last one The Decriminalization Of Country Music

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

All this is ok, but the scariest thing on the market is by far In Slaughter Natives (and a lot of the stuff on their label).
Eat yr teddy bearz Zoviet France!

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Monday, 23 June 2003 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

How comes no one has mentioned ZF's Digilogue yet? It's their only really creepy album.

Sommermute (Wintermute), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:17 (twenty years ago) link

pre-folk Current 93(Dogs Blood Rising, In Menstrual night, etc.)
Byzantine Flowers by SPK

Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

i nominate 50% of coil's entire catalog to OWN this thread, particularly their work as the time machiens and musick to play in the dark.

Felcher (Felcher), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:43 (twenty years ago) link

i guess i might as well say "bernard gunther" here like you'd expect of me - julio you should get some Bernie. he's wild! bin listening to it a lot recently in an effort to CALM DOWN!!! grrr frickin stupid creepy noises!

bob snoom, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

all right bob i'll get some bernie

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

time dreaming itself
for mark rothko
crossing the river (night music)
un peu.. ( nearly NO tonality on this one )
redshift / abscheid.
thing is they're so nothingy i'm rarely in the mood for them they're so good when i am tho. useless if you live near traffic or with other people. (passing aeroplane obscures the bit you've been waiting through 1/2 hr of silence for)

bob snoom, Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:56 (twenty years ago) link

ten months pass...
Check out telefon tel aviv (artist), their song entitled "sound in a dark room" will you take you to a place (mentally) that is undescribable. Let me know what you think of it. Make sure to turn it up very loud and go ahead and fire up a joint to get in the mood.

Jonny Shoehorn, Monday, 10 May 2004 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Nic Endo - Cold Metal Perfection

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

*zoviet-france* recommendation seconded. "Collusion" as an intro also seconded. Download: "Something This Beautiful," "White Dusk."

Coil's "Black Light District" also seconded.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Monday, 10 May 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Thomas Köner's "Permafrost" is also something to look out for.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Monday, 10 May 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Extended Organ - XOXO (LAMFS-connected group with Paul McCarthy)
IIRC, the review in the Wire accurately compared it to the sound of crawling through a tunnel of slime.

Also, I was listening to the first Pan American CD at work a few weeks ago and was told it was "morbid." (Perhaps it's a little too much on the tuneful side for this thread, though...)

Dr Benway (dr benway), Monday, 10 May 2004 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link

deathprod's "dead people's things" (from the new 'morals and dogma' cd) should fit the bill.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 10 May 2004 06:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll add to Mr. Diamond's excellent Nurse With Wound suggestions Spiral Insana. More creepy crawly scariness.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 10 May 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Forma Tadre. It sounds like The Krell in Forbidden Planet.

50% of anything distributed by World Serpent.

ian g., Monday, 10 May 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i just opened this thread to mention the rancho relaxo track off live at the love parade only to find that i already did last year...

robin (robin), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

In Slaughter Natives own this thread

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 06:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Some of the creepiest stuff I've heard is Tertium Non Data's first album, 'The Third is Not Given.' A couple of others (Dark Ambient and some not so): Yen Pox, Michael Sandler, Seleenblut, Cranioclast, Michael J. Schumacher, Gordon Rhynes, Jim Cole, Bloodbox, Wilt, Veinke, Michael Schmickler, Oophoi, Profane Grace, Nordvargr, Svartsinn, Anenzephaila, Tom Heasley, Raphael Toral, Aidan Baker, Haslem, Hands To, Janek Schaefer, Brent Gutzeit, Sator Absentia, Five Thousand Spirits, Sola Translatio, Ulf Söderberg, Simulacrum, SETI, Bernhard Gunter, M. Griffin, The Grey Wolves, Will Green, Klaus Wiese, Matthew Grassow, GAS, Frequency Curtain, Formal Logic Decay, Gruntsplatter, Helium Vola, Subterranean Source, Onirot, I Burn, Silent Watcher of Dark Matter, Negru Pvlse, The [law Rah] Collective, Brandon Labelle, Murmer, Mimir, Isomorph, Sephiroth, Inanna, Inade, Schloss Tegal, Thomas Koner, Herbst9, Giancarlo Toniuttti, Murderous Vision, Kontakt der Junglinge, Omit, Klood, Darren Tate, Robin Storey & Nigel Ayers, Kenotaph, Roland Kayn, Jarl, THO-SO-AA, Em, Kim Cascone, Deison, Hazard, Tam Quam Tabula Rosa, Alio Die (some), Mark Rownd, Ond, Agnivolok, Dual, Organum (David Jackman), Ganzfeld, 4m33s, Embracing The Glass, Igneous Flame, Matt Borghi (some), Acclimate, Enshrouded Whisper, True Colour of Blood, Stephen, Encomiast, Gustaf Hildebrand, HyperExMachina, Starfrost, Aube, Aal, Turbund Strumwerk, Hybryds, ID Battery, John Hudak, Hlidolf, Iszoloscope, His Divine GraceMarspitter, Letum, Soulcrush, Francisco Lopez, Chris Meloche, David Maranha, Lithivm, Instincts, Maeror Tri (some) & Troum (some), Lux Mammoth, Charun, Lunar Abyss Quartet, Love Power Experiment, Lotus Eaters, No No Orchestra, Nimh, Marax, Soldnergeist, Ordeal, Sleep Research Facility, Christopher Short, Predominance, Omei, Cisfinitum, Tehom, Samsa, Mathieu Ruhlmann, Morphogenesis, Steve Roden, Nick Parkin, Ovum, Osso Exotico, Zero Ohms, Moan, JGrzinich, Olhon, Novatron, Christian Renou, Christoph Heeman, RAAN, Pholde, Dronaement, PGR, Arcane Device, Stephen Philips, DreamSTATE, Deep Chill Network, Lull, Lustmord, Phause, Tarkatak, Penumbra, Pax Corda, Richard Chartier, Ruhr Hunter, Invercauld, Shinjuku Thief, SanReiSei, Ran Kirlian, Raison d'Etre, James Plotkin's & Mick Harris' 'Collapse' album, Omenya, Temperature Within, Chaos As Shelter, Nothing, Cordell Klier, Veil of Secrecy, Veiled Illusions, Tribes of Neurot, Toy Bizarre, Bad Sector, Northaunt, Tidal, Bardoseneticcube, Kammarheit, Caul, Bestia Centauri, Heath Yonaites, Amongst Myselves, Amon, Never Known, No Festival of Light, Where, Voice Transmissions With The Deceased, Asmorod, Seth Nehil, Chris Hutton, Negative Thought, Atom Infant Incubator, Ex.Order, Aeolian String Ensemble, A Produce, Land:Fire, Band of Pain, Moljebka Pulse, En Nihil, John Duncan, Jonathan Coleclough, Andrew Chalk, Darkened Soul, Crawl Unit, Elektro Nova, MNortham, Delerium, Etere-o, Cold Electric Fire, ANGELswing, Colin Potter, Aglaia, Erinys, Paul Bradley, Drift, Exotoendo, Ambre, Desiderii Marginis, Hollow Earth, Mindspawn, Heid, Entarte, Daniel Menche, Final, Clop Neplat, Megaptera, Diaz-Infante, LS-TTL, Legion, Alan Lamb, Randy Grief, Akkron, Matthew Florianz, Cheryl-O, Dense Vision Shrine, Ah Cama Sotz, Exsanguinate, Dolman, Michael Prime, Igor Krutogolov, Brendan Walls, Monstare, Endvra, Joe Colley, Darkness Enshroud, Porteur de L’Image, Beyond Sensory Experience, Le Joyaux de la Princisse, Post Scriptvm, Cyclotimia, Ellende, Arecibo, Leif Elggren, Charlemagne Palestine, Cataclyst, Emerge, Beneath The Lake, Augur, Orginisation Toth, Origami Galaktika, Origami Arktika, C.M. Von Hausswolff, Ordo Equiibrio, Aperus, Cruelity Campaign, Tom Opdahl, Beequeen, Tau Ceti, Datura 1.0, Farfield, Autodidact, Eye Of Phetkanha, Alhedion, Cria Cuervos, Douglas Burkett, Ure Thrall, Diatonis, Baradelan, Asia Nova, Coma Virus, William Basinski, Stratvm Terror, Amir Baghiri, Memoria, Blacklab, Crepuscule, Eduard Artemyev, Keimverbreitung, Cymbl, Allerseelen, Dead Voices On Air, Cyber Zen Sound Engine (some), Jliat, Core, Brume, Andrew Liles, Jon Broaddus, Zbigniew Karkowski, Axon Neuron-Vagwa, Thom Brennan (some), Falling You, Paul Schutze, Ora, Monos, Mirror, Alial Straa, Michael Stearns, Austere, Casar Ursic, Avrigus, Jeff GreinkeDagda Mor, Inhale, Travismorgan, Ramon Caramba, Max Corbacho, Danny Kreutzfeldt, Polito, I Dream No More, Stephan Mathieu. There may be a few more, but I'm tired and want to go to bed. Pending your authorization, of course.

Eric Michael Place, Friday, 25 June 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

No Eric, first you must say the list again - backwards.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 25 June 2004 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link

HAFLER TRIO

sherm, Friday, 25 June 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

omf eric

sweet dreams

harshaw (jube), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Robert Ashley "Automatic Writing"

sherm, Friday, 25 June 2004 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link

If you want something that's fairly ambient, occasionally creepy, lushly ethereal, and thunderously apocalyptic, I might recommend the music of Elend. "The Umbersun" or "Les Ténèbres du Dehors" are both really good places to start. They have a newer album out but it has more of a darkwave orientation and is certainly less ambient- textured but more rigidly structured.


James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Robert Rich - especially Stalker, A Troubled Resting Place and Below Zero.
Alio Die - Le Stanze Della Trascendenza and others
Oöphoi - Mare Vaporum

jeffery (jeffery), Friday, 25 June 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

The Charlemagne Palestine & Panasonic colab on Mort Aux Vaches (if you can find it).

hexxyMancer, Friday, 25 June 2004 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
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fies, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised no mentioned Ambient Isolationism on this thread. I still listen to that a bunch.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

o m g

Eric Michael Place is my nu-god!

well, 2-year-old god.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

the bands & albums i know from that list makes me want to check out the other stuff, but where to start argglgl%$&§!&%

fies, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, jesus. I wonder if Eric's still out there, could he give us an updated, perhaps pared down list??

Drooone, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard maybe five things on Eric's list.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ive heard 57 (yes i counted them), but theres still TOO MUCH.

its hard to imagine a time when dark ambient (and reading the wire) was actually fashionable

fies, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa way harsh dude.

Drooone, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

check out GAS. creepy, bubbly and dark. i have it on soulseek. my user name is doom23. i have all their releases on the mille plateaux label, when they were good.

doom23, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Does GAS stand for anything?

Drooone, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

no.

the dude behind the band is wolfgang voigt, he has so many other aliases but under the name GAS he makes this really dark muted techno with beats that are soft and in the background. the overall feeling is of utter despair and bleakness.

doom23, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds good to me.

Drooone, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Pop music albums as radical as the first album of Wolfgang Voigt's project GAS are scarce. Comparable extremes coming to mind are Napalm Death's "Scum", the self-proclaimed "end of music as we know it" by virtue of being the fastest music ever released on a commercial CD, or Earth's "Earth 2" for being the slowest.

"GAS" is also excessively slow; simply put, it's drone music. In the first track, all your ear can latch on to is a few heavily down-tuned, backwards-played samples of Disco guitar. But actually it took me a backwards playback at 75 rpm to discover that. The resulting texture is so smooth, soothing, subdued, it can almost be felt as a physical presence in the room. And contrary to New Age musics that try to achieve that effect through big production and effects claptrap, "GAS" shines with a very moderate production, the worst thing about this being the frequent clicks as artifacts of sample editing, the best being that it will sound great on any system, at any volume, at any time of the day.

It's interesting to look at the development of GAS' sound. The debut EP on Profan contained four tracks that were very different from each other (more on that to come in a seperate review). The self-titled album takes up where the EP ended, with a very plastic-y and synthetic sound: track 1 is an enlengthened, reduced version of the EP's track 4; track 2 is basically track 1 with a beat added; etc... the whole album basically is a handful ideas stretched out to a whopping (actually, soothing) 77 minutes. All Later GAS albums (I followed through until 2000's "Pop") sounded very different from it, mostly deploying samples from classical music like Schoenberg and Wagner, so "GAS" remains unique and unchallenged to this day.

The album is usually put into the "ambient" drawer. I don't know... Okay, the term "ambient" itself has become pretty vague by today, but the synthetic, monotonous "GAS" is the complete opposite of the sountrack-ish and, well, ambient quality of classics like Eno's "Music For Airports". It's far more abstract (not structurally, but as in "the contrary of concrete, recognizable, image-evoking sound material") and, forgive me, musical than that. When I last read an interview with Wolfgang Voigt in 1999, he insisted that all of his music would be seen simply as pop, and as strange and radical as "GAS" may appear, Voigt's claim makes sense.

doom23, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

those Gas albums on MP are truly amazing. such a shame that label is out of print.

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, indeed. i have them all on mp. i even bought the first one, the ugly looking one, used here in toronto. the stuff just stood out. the same with vladislav delay.

doom23, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ENVENOMIST

tor lundvall, too.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...

eric michael place's list does not contain NECROPOLIS, whose re-issued 'NECROSPHERE' i have just bought. terrifying stuff. i don't think it's been mentioned on ILX before. some dude from Irkutsk playing drones over field recordings from disused missile shafts.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Nothing, Cordell Klier, Veil of Secrecy, Veiled Illusions, Tribes of Neurot, Toy Bizarre, Bad Sector, Northaunt, Tidal, Bardoseneticcube, Kammarheit, Caul, Bestia Centauri, Heath Yonaites, Amongst Myselves, Amon, Never Known, No Festival of Light, Where, Voice Transmissions With The Deceased, Asmorod, Seth Nehil, Chris Hutton, Negative Thought, Atom Infant Incubator, Ex.Order, Aeolian String

am0n, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

actually it really has to be said: that list is probably the most crushingly unfathomable I've ever seen on ILM

Just got offed, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i feel like i post this everywhere, but no kevin drumm mentioned itt?

imperial distortion, imperial horizon, tannenbaum

i'll have to look for i mean slsk cities in fog

savvinesslessness (map), Monday, 26 September 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

you'll dig it, it's up yr alley

v murky and churning and gauzy

clouds, Monday, 26 September 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

woah, love it.

savvinesslessness (map), Monday, 26 September 2016 02:34 (seven years ago) link

tangerine dream 4 lurking clowns

savvinesslessness (map), Monday, 26 September 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link

haha, post apocalyptic mutant clowns maybe

clouds, Monday, 26 September 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6fRK_g8Phs#t=15m

Released in 1981, recorded in 1978 (incredibly)

3×5, Monday, 26 September 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

It starts getting ambient at about 9:15.

3×5, Monday, 26 September 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

Robert Ashley "Automatic Writing"
― sherm, Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:57 PM (twelve years ago)

Is this the earliest example?

sarahell, Monday, 26 September 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

creepiest music for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1V4VN6pp5I

dan selzer, Monday, 26 September 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Some of the creepiest stuff I've heard is Tertium Non Data's first album, 'The Third is Not Given.' A couple of others (Dark Ambient and some not so):[...]

― Eric Michael Place, Friday, June 25, 2004 12:45 AM (fourteen years ago)

man idk, I listened to that Tertium Non Data album and it sounds like one of those video game soundtracks that gamers hype up as "sOmE oF tHe GrEaTeSt AmBiEnT oF aLl TiMe", but when you actually listen to it turns out to be a bunch of cheap dungeon synth jump scares, so you shrug and write it off as a "you had to be there" thing. ilx user ☆ seems to feel the same way, so I feel vindicated. Apophasis by Caul (ex TND member) was also underwhelming. I guess I should spend the next 20-30 years digging deeper into Eric's list?

two recent-ish dark ambient albums that deliver on their promise are Isobel Ccircle's The House in Harbour Park and Thomas P. Heckmann's Ghosts

the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

Things were different in 2004. Hell was further away.

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link


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