― Chris F. (servoret), Sunday, 30 October 2005 07:12 (eighteen years ago) link
I gather from this thread, their still active - any new websites I've given up looking.
I must be one of a handful of UK fans with all their studio work - I love it all
― sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Racially Yours is good too, but as near the knuckle on race as Right and Natural is with homosexuality
― sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link
"Who is righteousWhat is bold...Because I'm BALD!"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link
01 Cherub Rock
02 Rhinoceros/Hey Joe
03 Disarm/Gylcerine
04 I Am One/Immigrant Song/L.A. Woman/Fame/Pets
05 Luna/Jane Says
06 Silverfuck/Violet/Smells Like Teen Spirit/Today/Baba O'Riley/Yer Blues
07 (Cobain's Killer -> Courtney)
08 Sleep On The Street
09 Raped/Weird On the Avenue
10 The Longing Goes Away
11 Fuck Off
12 Whisper
13 Bad Daddy
14 Adam & Steve (with Steve Albini references)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 November 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Not defending assholes being assholes. Just in the Frogs' case, it helps to know a bit about their history.
M@tt, was Dennis mean to you after the yoga thing?
― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
...anyway i prolly should just shut up, maybe they are great dudes or something, i just got a sort of assholey "pro" vibe from them, might be an abberation or just me being over-sensitive...carry on!
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I just found It's Only Right & Natural on vinyl at my store. Worth getting?
― Evan, Friday, 26 March 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
um , YES!!
― Stormy Davis, Friday, 26 March 2010 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously, grab it before someone else does..
― Stormy Davis, Friday, 26 March 2010 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Alright, thanks! The store-owner's ignorance is paying off. Its only within 5 - 8 dollars (forget exactly). Unless thats similar to what it goes for online... Its too early I can't remember much.
― Evan, Friday, 26 March 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
You sleazy prostitute!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 26 March 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.com/Frogs-Its-Only-Right-and-Natural-LP-/300462655268?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item45f4f84724#ht_500wt_1154
― Evan, Sunday, 5 September 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i only have Hopscotch.. "The Longing Goes Away" sounds like it could have been a huge song really, is it actually deadpan serious?
― Kim, Sunday, 5 September 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Unprompted, my sister is playing Bananimals. "I'm EVIL Jack!"
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
My Daughter the Broad rather. It's all good.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
WHERE'S JERRY LEWISWHEN YOU NEED THE MAN?
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
La da da daLa da da deeLa da da dum dum
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
wtf this alb is amazn.. i never knew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7LS_x_px48
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
Here comes the watermelon seed up my snoot snoutAnd that's yr asshole, your snoot snout
― Heaven knows I'm thirsty and miserable now (NickB), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 08:05 (eleven years ago) link
What the! Dennis Flemion died over the weekend!
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/wisconsin/divers-continue-their-search-for-missing-swimmer-in-a-racine-county-lake
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
awful news!!
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
From Gerard Cosloy:
http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/2012/07/09/dennis-flemion/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
this sucks.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
the news, not the frogs.
So I never told this story here but -- upthread I talk about randomly seeing them in San Diego. A few days later I was in Seattle and so donut bitch/Mackro and I went to see them again, part of the same tour. So they get to the "Hot Cock Annie" performance, which of course is the cue for them to invite an audience member onstage to sing the song if they feel so bold. First guy up is drunk as hell and nothing really happens, he just semi sings things and all. Dennis, without a missing a beat (neither did anyone else on stage, just playing along), dares the guy to drop his pants if he's not going to do anything else. So the dude turns to face him and does so. Again, without missing a beat, Dennis turns his head and scrunches up his face/sticks out his tongue in a classic "EURGH!" look, then turns back and says "That looks like something that should be at the county fair!"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
I emailed Dennis in about 1999 (I THINK it was him and not Jimmy) just to see if he'd write back and he said something like "Write back? Send me $10 and I'll send you a live tape that will make your ass stand on end". I think I was asking them if they were ever going to come to the UK.
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
The first time my future wife and I exchanged emails in 2003, she attached an mp3 of 'Hot Cock Annie'.
RIP.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
I spoke to one of em on the phone once. Never cared for the records.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
or the 'hilarious' gay shtick
wow, terrible news. i've actually been to that lake. RIP dude :(
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
There was certainly a stretch of my life in the late 1980′s in which you were not leaving my apartment if you hadn’t heard “I’ve Done Drugs (Out Of The Mist)” at least once. I suspect there’s others who have similar stories.
give or take two decades I hear GC loud and clear right here
RIP
― if you are a false nine don't entry (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
Fuck RIP Dennis
― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 08:44 (eleven years ago) link
I'm very sad to hear this news. I've always enjoyed The Frogs a lot since my copy of the Smashing Pumpkins Vieuphoria VHS led me to their twisted genius in my formative years. I was obsessed with their short segment.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't quite understand what was going on in those three short minutes, but I loved it!
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link
Been getting aquainted with some less known Frogs numbers which are indeed making my ass stand on end. Namely 'The Wild Mouth Of The Buck-Toothed Priest' and the truly terrifying 'New In Town Sailor'.
― Supper's Burnt (PaulTMA), Monday, 27 August 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
So looks like Jimmy Flemion and Billy Corgan have been doing a few things together lately after Dennis's passing -- here's some stuff just after Dennis's memorial service at his house:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09_7fOgIMAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIv-1Ejzzls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz3v7rEX5zU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o6q2SOM-9A
And this was the other night in Austin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGaHI7uLBe4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbEhGhafHDI
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 September 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
If Jimmy joined the Pumpkins I would actually go and see them
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
Via Jimmy on FB/elsewhere:
Hello everybody. I set up a new p.o. box : The Frogs P.O. Box 81234Austin, TX 78708To those of you who have expressed interest in sending fan mail, tapes and things, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. In the past we have allowed taping @ our shows, with the understanding whoever taped or filmed agreeing to send us a copy. Unfortunately more often then not, those who taped or filmed and said they would send us a copy never did. That was one of the main reasons we reluctantly allowed taping or filming. If some of you are out there, I ask to do the right thing and please, send your tapes, cd's or dvd's to the new p.o. box. It would mean so much to me, especially now. Also, I've started a blog @ tumblr.com, stay tuned. My greatest challenge is communication, as well as my greatest reward.From my heart to yours,Jimmy
The Frogs P.O. Box 81234Austin, TX 78708
To those of you who have expressed interest in sending fan mail, tapes and things, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. In the past we have allowed taping @ our shows, with the understanding whoever taped or filmed agreeing to send us a copy. Unfortunately more often then not, those who taped or filmed and said they would send us a copy never did. That was one of the main reasons we reluctantly allowed taping or filming. If some of you are out there, I ask to do the right thing and please, send your tapes, cd's or dvd's to the new p.o. box. It would mean so much to me, especially now.
Also, I've started a blog @ tumblr.com, stay tuned.
My greatest challenge is communication, as well as my greatest reward.
From my heart to yours,Jimmy
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
And that tumblr he mentions is now up:
http://jimmyflemion.tumblr.com/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 October 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:13 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 02:49 (six years ago) link
^^^^ i had that song stuck in my head today out of nowhere, prolly haven't listened to these dudes in 10 years
oh charming rabbit slut boywhere did you come fromwas it england or TOKYO?
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link
Abandoned first album coming out soon. The preview song is great, more like the live show than anything on the records I've heard. Jimmy and Evan Dando will do a short tour billed as 'The Frogs". I feel like Dennis would think Dando was a funny enough replacement. https://onmilwaukee.com/music/articles/the-frogs-1st.html
― Mike Dixn, Saturday, 25 January 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
After owning It's Only Right & Natural on LP for 10 years now I can officially say I don't understand the appeal beyond being a silly novelty record. The way people talk about it I always assumed it was supposed to transcend that. I suppose at this point I need it explained to me.
― Evan, Monday, 17 February 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
Hm, well, maybe this'll help? I posted it on FB just now along with some photos I took:
So the other night, I saw the Frogs, or rather the current version -- Jimmy Flemion plus, on about half the tracks either on guitar or drums, Evan Dando. Honestly didn't know what to expect, or even how to feel about them these days, though I'd seen them a couple of times back in the 2000s, wrote a number of AMG reviews, etc. My sis, however, is a massive fan, and I thought, well, why not? Just the other day a thread was revived on ILX wondering if it was all just cheap novelty in the end, and I've been pondering more with time and the years about jokes, their goals, who gets to tell whose story and more. And none of those thoughts have gone away.
Still, I gotta say this -- it was really good. Often great. Jimmy came out with a feathery headpiece for the first song -- a cover of Three Dog Night's "One," which, sung as early video of Jimmy and Dennis played behind him, really did feel poignant in new ways. He switched to a hat for the next song -- Evan joined in at that point -- but otherwise appeared for the rest of the set as is, no wings, head shaven, simply dressed nattily enough. And he was in very fine voice throughout -- years ago I called his approach that of a 'sweetly vile troubadour' and I'll stand by that, positively. But it makes the heartfelt songs when they appear -- and they did -- all that much more so. (Near the end he did a number about Dennis and his death and the damn thing was really lovely.)
The cover choices were especially intriguing -- doing Bowie's "Starman" made perfect sense, there was always something about them that was _Hunky Dory_-into-Ziggy and Jimmy is absolutely no slouch on guitar in that vein, plus T. Rex's "Cat Black (The Wizard's Hat)" and in the encore a stellar "Sometimes It Snows in April" by Prince. Of course, plenty of _It's Only Right and Natural_ cuts and more besides, and I got a clear sense that any number of older gay couples (and I'm guessing singles) in the crowd loved it all without irony. Who can say?
And it's gotta be said -- Dando's aged very well. (My sister was even more vocal on the matter.) He seemed to have a little frustration with his drumkit and I'm not sure if he normally sits out half the show, but he was great when he was onstage and I was mildly surprised when at one point he sang "It's a Shame About Ray" with backing from Jimmy. I've only ever seen the Lemonheads the once, back on a KROQ summer radio fest bill in 1993, but they did that then, and him doing it now was strange but affecting nostalgia I didn't expect.
So anyway, I bring all this up because per a Twitter post by Jake Fogelnest earlier this afternoon -- I'll link it in comments -- there's apparently a Frogs documentary in the works. I'll be especially interested in seeing that.
(Said Tweet:
Hi, Dennis. We spoke after this tweet (which sadly was your last before you passed away). Wanted to let you and everyone know, OF COURSE they're making a documentary about The Frogs. I just filmed my interview. I'm sure you're pissed it's not done and hasn't already won an Oscar. https://t.co/BJazF5xznp— Jake Fogelnest (@jakefogelnest) February 21, 2020
Etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 February 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link
So it turns out there's a new Frogs album as such, which apparently had been in the works for a while
https://thefrogs.hearnow.com/
Hi everyone. The Spiritual album is here. Damaged Goods / Sinned in Reverse.Out now! Finally. Our album that has been talked about in interviews & the works for the last 30 years. Today digitally available everywhere.— Jimmy Flemion (@JimmyFlemion) July 7, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 July 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link