Taking Sides: Beavis and Butthead vs Daria

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If Daria did videos I would be all for it, but Beavis and Butthead did too many classic moments commenting on Pavements' dirty bathtub and how they could rock if they only tried or Tom Waits playing under a table or even Morphine.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 20 September 2002 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria, but both are far better than anything else that ever aired on MTV.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 20 September 2002 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

did anyone else see the one where Jane decides to become a cheerleader? she looks exactly like modern-day Kathleen Hanna!

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 20 September 2002 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yum Yum Gimme Sum!

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 20 September 2002 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.mtv.com/onair/daria/flipbook/altarego/images/flip8.gif

Hi, we're the Vines.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 20 September 2002 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria all the way. Downtown ain't half bad, either.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 20 September 2002 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

modern day kathleen hanna = *swoon*

for the record, i say daria.

sand.y, Friday, 20 September 2002 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

B+B >>>> Daria. Daria = smug, self-satisfied sums her up, but most fatally, not very funny. B+B OTOH alarmingly accurate portrayal of suburban youth with access to too much sugar and MTV and VERY FUNNY INDEED. No one has ever explained the mystery quiet/loud dynamic more eloquently.

RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have people forgotten how funny Beavis and Butthead was??

THANKYOU RICKY T!!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like both shows, but Daria is much more of a salve for my wounded ego.
Kate - where is this survey? is it still online?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Like I can accept the critical judgements of someone who thinks Carter USM is the shizit.

I say both shows are funny in different ways.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

...the mystery of the quiet/loud dynamic...

RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Someone I knew once wrote a huge thing on Carter USM for our school magazine in which he called them "loud but subtle". If only I'd remembered that before titling my article.

Daria should listen to more Carter.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 20 September 2002 23:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

hmmph to everyone

(except nabisco and some other people)

Graham (graham), Friday, 20 September 2002 23:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

"loud but subtle"

My favorite mock critical phrase is "minimalist yet expansive"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 September 2002 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

DARIA! DARIA! DARIA!

nory (nory), Saturday, 21 September 2002 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

The more I think about this the more I think B&B blows Daria away. Daria not even the best thing they re-run on Noggin. Mike Judge has yet to do wrong by me.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 September 2002 01:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

CELEBRITY ENDORSEMENT:
biba k*pf likes daria: i think it is the only TV light-entertainment diversion he has been known to approve of, apart from berlin alexanderplatz obv

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 September 2002 09:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think that settles it, then.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 September 2002 10:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

B-b-but Mark, what about the tv version of Das Boot?!?!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 21 September 2002 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

DARIA!


By miles and miles, one of the funniest ever moments on TV was when they were going on the military camp trip and one of them asks the psycho bulging eye teacher "will we have a buddy system", and he goes "I had a buddy ONCE, then I got home and he'd MARRIED MY MOTHER!!!!!!" totally fucking freaking. It was classic.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 September 2002 12:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Beavis & Butthead" may well be the most overrated thing in the world, ever. That it's a "alarmingly accurate portrayal of suburban youth with access to too much sugar and MTV", because frankly those suburban youths are a lot more entertaining IRL than B&B ever were.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 21 September 2002 12:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

''biba k*pf likes daria: i think it is the only TV light-entertainment diversion he has been known to approve of, apart from berlin alexanderplatz obv''

daria wins by a mile. grateful dead fans are always right!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 21 September 2002 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

See? Ronan is always right.

Also I think everyone who's harping on Daria's being humorless has not watched enough of the show: the whole premise was that Daria wandered around observing the hilarious antics of everyone else and dropping in a bon mot every sixth minute or so. In the end it was quite possibly more about Quinn than Daria.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Also Daria's dad totally looks like Nory's dad.)

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

they're both good, but i could never get excited about daria. i would seek out beavis and butthead, after austin stories, they were the best mtv times.

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

what we need, Nabisco (especially my pal Tim B, who adores her) is a real world Jane Lane.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

So wait, you know Nory, Nabisco? Who is this good soul? I've liked the Nory posts so far. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 September 2002 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

norys got some good early buzz going on

boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 21 September 2002 17:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

"i like a beer buzz first thing in the morning"

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 September 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria by far. Surprised the Digital Archive Project hasn't picked it (or Austin Stories) up yet.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Saturday, 21 September 2002 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really don't think Daria's dad looks like my dad, at all.

(and I'm glad you've liked my posts, Ned)

nory (nory), Saturday, 21 September 2002 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hurrah for Nory! :-) Yer welcome.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 01:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Quinn was the Xander, Daria's dad was the Bez.

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 September 2002 03:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria = Ghost World. Therefore = SHIT!

david h (david h), Sunday, 22 September 2002 07:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Beavis and Butthead, easily. I like Daria but I'm a bit bored of it. B&B episodes are so much shorter and funnier! But then again I am pretty close to obsessed.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

SANDY IS THE BEZ!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haven't seen B&B so can't comment, but I've liked quite a bit of Daria. nabisco seems to be OTM.

Ess Kay (esskay), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria was funnier on Beavis and Butthead.

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 September 2002 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Beavis and Butthead, easy. I used to love Daria but on rewatching it kept getting annoyed w/D's all-too-easy teenage girl cynicism... too many large, slowmoving targets. The best characters are worth watching it for though; Upchuck, the football player and his girlfriend, Daria's dad. Jane Lane and her dickhead brother bugged me.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 23 September 2002 00:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

'what we need, Nabisco (especially my pal Tim B, who adores her) is a real world Jane Lane. ' -Martin

I suspect a real world Claire Defoe, if only to evade the child-molesting charges... unless I'm sent back in time or something...

Actually, there IS a real-world Clair. She's married to a friend of mine, sadly (and typically) ...

Tim Bateman, Monday, 23 September 2002 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
Almost everyone in this thread was CRAZY. Daria is mildly amusing every couple minutes, B&B is non-stop lols.

Discuss.

Sansai, Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I concur. End of discussion.

Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

daria rocked!
beavis & butthead were also great.

i love both but my old roomamte had a song featured on daria so if forced to choose i'd give her her the edge.

more seriously (or as serious as you can be with B&B) one is a sketch show and one is a sitcom - can you compare 'em?

H (Heruy), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

And why isn't Daria acknowledged as one of the greatest things ever?
-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...), September 20th, 2002.

because it's not.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Almost everyone in this thread was CRAZY. Daria is mildly amusing every couple minutes, B&B is non-stop lols.
Discuss.

-- Sansai (dfasfds...), September 23rd, 2004.

OTM.

i don't think any show has nailed down the wasteland that is suburban america better than 'beavis and butthead'.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus B&B was always so relentness in its low-key nihilism.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Also it's just way more fun to watch stupid characters than "smart" characters commenting on stupid characters.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Never really cared for either, actually. Give me "Ren & Stimpy" over both of'em any day of the week.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

ren & stimpy could be funny at times but after a while it just started trying way to hard to be "out there" and fucked up.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

You looked it up? You have a stronger stomach and more courage than I ever will.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 9 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"What impasse?" Jane said. She felt lightheaded. No doubt it was due to the blood loss. Jane's legs felt drenched in it. SHe was trying to keep her anger up so that she didn't have to think about it and possibly throw up.

I hate it when my legs are drenched in blood loss.

her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Thursday, 9 July 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It’s a strong likelihood the show’s pop soundtrack won’t make it to the DVDs – the very few releases so far have either replaced it with generic background music or nothing at all. It probably won’t matter to most, but I watched the series a lot on original broadcast and will always associate certain scenes with the music – Monaco’s “What Do You Want from Me” playing when Daria dressed up as Quinn, for example.

Duane Barry, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

This really ruined the 21 Jump Street dvd, Johnny Depp or no.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

so:

- State on DVD this month
- Dario on DVD next year
- "MTV2 Legit" = one hour a week of Beavis & Butthead, the Max, Aeon Flux, the State, and old MTV bumpers

all I need to do is take a vow of celibacy and start a band, and I can officially regress to exactly what I did with my spare time in high school

nabisco, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

haha "dario"

nabisco, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I even tivo'ed mtv2 legit, I feel so pathetic.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I did too, but it's sort of unsatisfying -- it's mostly Beavis & Butthead w/o the videos, which isn't that good; the Max and Aeon Flux stuff is cut up into tiny out-of-context bits that are just like general reminders of what they were like; and my enjoyment of 90s MTV programming does not extend to needing to have Coolio videos on my DVR

nabisco, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

they need to bring back Oddville

nice babies finnish blast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it's mostly Beavis & Butthead w/o the videos, which isn't that good; the Max and Aeon Flux stuff is cut up into tiny out-of-context bits that are just like general reminders of what they were like; and my enjoyment of 90s MTV programming does not extend to needing to have Coolio videos on my DVR

Yes, it was pretty disappointing -- it would be better if they expanded it, and included full episodes of B&B and Liquid Television. It's not like there's a lot of people flocking to MTV2 on Friday nights.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 9 July 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

So has anybody else got the Daria DVD set? The whole music issue hasn't turned out so bad - the replacement soundtrack captures the feel of the original, though in a couple of cases it jars (like in the "Everybody Hurts" video reference).

The extras are fun, but a bit scanty; there's barely anything to the cast interviews.

But it's great to have the entire series on top-quality DVD.

Duane Barry, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link


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