OPO: Nicolas Cage's Worst Movie

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think The Weather Man was one of the best movies I've seen this decade, and lot of it was due to Cage and Michael Caine

Two of my least favourite actors in one film - thank Buddha I've never seen it

Tom D., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

how can anybody hate Michael Caine

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

All these movies you guys are mentioning are worse than _Ghost Rider_?

Sundar, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Like I told Shakey on another poll yesterday, Nicolas Cage was BORN to sell out, so there's no need to rend our garments over a talent betrayed. The burden of proof is to show otherwise.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I voted for "Wicker Man", based on the clips I've seen on "YouTube". If there's a worse one than that, I don't want to even know about it.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

how can anybody hate Michael Caine

Ha ha, I don't hate him, I just don't think he's a very good actor - though he has occasionally been good.

Now Michael Caine's Worst Movie - where would you start?!??!

Tom D., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

you are talking a pile of poo re: Michael Caine.

But the answer to that poll is Jaws 4: The Revenge.

kenan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, Peter O'Toole, he's another one

Tom D., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

The one in which he won a lottery, what was that named?

Heave Ho, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Jaws 4 no question

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

The Wicker Man might be my favorite movie of his since Snake Eyes, even if that opinion is smothered in irony sauce.

x-post to Heave Ho: It Could Happen To You

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicolas Cage wasn't in "Jaws 4" was he?

Tom D., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

leaving las vegas. i haven't seen most of the undoubtedly awful movies on this list, but even the smidgen of matchstick men i saw was better than leaving las vegas.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

oh man, i forgot about FIRE BIRDS

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008L3UF.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

kingfish, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's hard to hate someone when you don't actually see the movies he's in that are supposed hateworthy.

These are the only Nic Cage films I've seen:

World Trade Center (2006)
Adaptation (2002)
Face/Off (1997)
Leaving Las Vegas (1995)
Wild at Heart (1990)
Moonstruck (1987)
Raising Arizona (1987)

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

also, Lord of War is the best movie no one's ever seen.

Roz, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

ts: Leaving Las Vegas vs. Honeymoon in Vegas

kenan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I've seen 7 of these, I think. I haven't seen Ghost Rider but I voted for it on GP.

Jordan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

lol I think the only person who likes National Treasure

i liked it ok! i don't understand the vitriolic reactions around here to such a harmless, fluffy movie.

as for my vote, i'd go with "Gone in 60 seconds"

latebloomer, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

the weatherman is REALLY good. and lord of war is pretty decent! and i still think Adaptation is way, way better than Eternal Sunshine

ryan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

waht

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

8mm is the worst film ever made so it walks this.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I really do not get the love for Adaptation, such a cop-out of a film

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Cage IS decent in it - he pulls off the twin thing well - but I remember feeling the film didn't take advantage of its best ideas.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

His accent in Peggie Sue Got Married is something to hear.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Adaptation = Eternal Sunshine without the twee emo crap and narcissism (ok, less narcissism)

ryan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

but... they're completely different movies about completely different things! And Adaptation has an even shittier twee-Hollywood-happy ending!

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Adaptation is a great movie.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Eternal Sunshine = Adaptation without the meta crap and narcissism.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

you people are crazy.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

STEP AWAY FROM THE BIKE

Matt #2, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't understand why anyone would think its so great to make a shitty film that tries to explain away its shittiness with a completely transparent "I MEANT to do that, because I'm rebelling against Hollywood" subtext. Its way more smug and self-serving and boring than anything in Eternal Sunshine - which is probably the most moving, genuinely emotional "romantic comedy" I've seen in at least 20 years.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Eternal Sunshine = Adaptation without the meta crap and narcissism.

that's funny!

i think i find the characters in Adaptation more interesting. more adult anyway...i think the subjects of grief and love in that film are more subtle, and definitely less sunk into the detritus of a failed relationship that isn't that interesting to begin with.

i think, however, that a lot of the problems with Sunshine are more due to Gondry and the performances than the script as written. it required a more detached eye, for my taste.

ryan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't want to get into this Adaptation v. Eternal Sunshine zero-sum game. I don't think Adaptation's "smug" at all, though. it's fucking weird and awesome.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

so i guess im saying Jonze/Cage >>> Gondry/Carey

(and Kate Winselt is the onlyl reason Eternal Sunshine is even watchable as the sad sack bullshit it is!)

ryan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess its safe to say Adaptation won't be winning this poll

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I think part of the problem with Cage is that he's been making movies really often for so long without much obvious aging or physical change, and the marketing of like 70% of those movies has made them indistinguishable from each other, even once you've seen them. One called The Family Man and one called The Weather Man and another called The Wicker Man (plus Matchstick Men!), at least 3 movies that take place in Las Vegas, and I don't really know the difference between Windtalkers and Captain Corelli's Mandolin. I like The Rock and 8mm in a kind of campy way, I like Raising Arizona and a few others more sincerely (Lord Of War looks promising), but really they all kind of blur together and his character/performance is only really unique or distinct in a handful.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

and I don't really know the difference between Windtalkers and Captain Corelli's Mandolin

one's set in the European theater the other's in the Pacific theater

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think adaptation is smug at all. it's worried about smugness, it contemplates smugness, but if anything it's anti-smug. and i think the ending is funny and smart and coherent with the rest of the film.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I like him more than Morbius does, and yet somehow have seen way fewer of his films

gabbneb, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Adaptation a lot, I just like Eternal Sunshine better.

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think adaptation is smug at all. it's worried about smugness, it contemplates smugness, but if anything it's anti-smug

this holds true for two thirds of the film, then it collapses in on itself. The problem: criticizing the ending means you're not "in" on the joke.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

what joke?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"It's only a movie, written by a guy who can't think of an ending."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

is Birdy the only film for which he shaved his chest? (and even at 20, that was a lotta work)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

a question for the ages

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

vs the question of why ppl wanna rehash goddamn Charlie Kaufman fights that are 3 years old

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

he's terrific in Wild At Heart and Red Rock West.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

seriously it'd be great if some journalist asked Cage the chest-shaving question in an interview for whatever shit he's working on now

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

no one is terrific bearable in Wild At Heart

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Bad Lieutenant may be may favorite Cageflick, it seemed to have sank like a stone but if you like Nic Cage as much as I do you should enjoy it; it's basically Nic Cage flipping out on random people for a good hour and a half. Very much like The Vampire's Kiss (another A+ flick in my book). I don't think he's ever made a bad movie. Even the terrible stuff like Season of the Witch or Ghost Rider is at least funny because he's in it. Also, keep in mind that these are my favorite things that Nic Cage has ever done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0

frogbs, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"I don't think he's ever made a bad movie."

I believe it when people say he's totally without self-awareness because NEXT would have been saved if
Cage was at all aware about what it is people want to see him for, instead of playing a corpse the entire movie.
Even worse than Affleck's stab at PKD.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I admire Cage as an actor because he seemingly does not give a shit about what roles he takes and whether it's good for his actorly "reputation". Of course this means that he'll appear in lots of shitty movies but 9/10 times they're watchable because of him.

pre-prison, prison, and post-prison (latebloomer), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I think my personal Nick Cage turning point was Wicker Man, because no other actor could pull that kind of ridiculousness off. Wicker Man would just be a bad remake of a classic horror flick instead of a hilariously batshit bad remake of a horror classic.

pre-prison, prison, and post-prison (latebloomer), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I was down on Cage for a while then saw him in Kick-Ass, where he was gold through and through--he knew exactly what to do with that role. Very disappointed that the makers of the Green Hornet flick didn't let him do his jamaican-accented bad guy.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I think my personal Nick Cage turning point was Wicker Man, because no other actor could pull that kind of ridiculousness off.

That's basically why I like the man so much. Lots of his roles - The Vampire's Kiss, The Weather Man, Bad Lieutenant, Kick-Ass, etc. etc. just could not be done by anyone else. I mean the guy acts like a lunatic in every movie (and his off-screen persona backs this up) and plays every role 110%. The scene where he eats a cockroach in "Vampire's Kiss" wasn't even in the script!! He just suggested, "I think it would be better if I ate a cockroach here", so he did it. Daaamn

frogbs, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah idg how anyone can hate on someone this batshit - he's game for anything. Nothing's beneath this guy. If Tommy Wiseau wanted him to play a dog he'd probably do it. you gotta avoid half his films like the plague but I can't imagine a cinema without him. Also would love to see a super-insider doc about him blowing his millions.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Ouch. "A Score To Settle" (2019). OUCH!
Has a death scene to rival that of Peter Sellers' bugler in "The Party". Not kidding.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Still doin it:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6372694/

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

Whether that's gonna be good or not probably depends on how much one would want to see Boomtown Festival: The Movie

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link

Impressed that there's barely any mention of Deadfall itt. But it may actually be the greatest of all his performances so maybe it has no place here.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link


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