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DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY QUIZZICALLY PURSED LIPS?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

to get off the hate and link to Quantick... TV Burp is back on Saturday! woo! Harry on this year's CBB should be a joy.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

for reference or summat from the green wing thread:

To put things into context: Harry Hill aside, all British TV Comedy right now is total shit.

-- Ruairi Wirewool (horseproduction...), January 15th, 2007. (Ruairi Wirewool) (later)


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what were the chances of that happening?
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), January 15th, 2007. (mark grout) (later)


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If you can put CT and Green Wing on a par, you truly show a lack of discernment IMO.
Frankly, now that GW has been and gone, I'm inclined to agree with Ruairi, minus the bit about Harry Hill.

-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 15th, 2007. (Haberdager) (later)


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If you can put CT and Green Wing on a par, you truly show a lack of discernment IMO.
no it's just a 'higher' (or rather 'stricter') level of discernment.

-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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'the thick of it' will be back, later in the year, and so will 'peep show'.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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but in a another more accurate sense...
-- mark s (mar...), January 15th, 2007. (mark s) (later)


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but then i do like Harry Hill so it's apples and roundabouts.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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rubbish
-- RJG (RJ...), January 15th, 2007. (RJG) (later)


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so you keep saying
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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RJG's TV Burp
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), January 15th, 2007. (Dom Passantino) (later)


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Hmm. I was only talking about currently-running comedy shows. If Peep Show returns for a fourth bite at the cherry (and TTOI for a second), I will only be too delighted. Of course, the one I'm really looking out for is Nathan Barley II.
-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 15th, 2007. (Haberdager) (later)


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i think it would be a big ask for there to be a 'great' uk comedy series to be running all 52 weeks of the year. i have low standards perhaps; but i don't ask for a 'great' film each month either.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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of course i too want 'nathan barley' back.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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They could drop scissors on a dog's head this time.
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), January 15th, 2007. (Dom Passantino) (later)


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uh, rose-tinted view there i reckon - but at least it was generating interesting discussion.
one episode of Screen Wipe a month would be good. ditto TV Burp.

-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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ha ha Dom OTM
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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as with 'green wing', take away the hype and the expectation it'll live up to 'the day today' and 'nathan barley' was 23 minutes well-spent. i lolled anyway.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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i didn't laugh more than i did laugh etc.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

We're, what, 18 months away from NB now? Can we work out why it was so bad and so hated yet?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

we already did!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

like, 5 minutes after the end credits!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm talking about THE BENEFIT OF DISTANCE AND HINDSIGHT

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Charlie Brooker's Monday G2 column is weird because you can see the video game journalist in him threatening to break through at any moment. qf the Geoff Capes gag in today's etc.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Louis you seem to be assuming that the guy from the Indie actually thinks Extras is shite, which isn't what he's saying. Something can be patchy and still have plenty of redeeming features overall

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

It wasn't bad. It was funny, well-drawn and turn-itself-inside-out clever, not to mention superbly casted and acted. It needs re-watching cos it skips from one idea to the next so quick, but yeh, it's awesome.

And Screen Wipe rocks.

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Brooker should start doing his columns in cartoon strip form, like those ads for some gaming shop or other that were always in Gamesmaster magazine

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

ok 'nathan barley' in the oh-7: that corner of east london had probably lost its edge well before 2005, but now it feels even less edgy. the kind of magazine the show is lampooning is long gone. i have even forgotten the name of that sleazenation guy the guardian hired. but there were some very good throwaway gags.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

the IT crowd was about 300 times better than nathan barley if we're talking post being any good chris morris.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i know a person who knows the redhead, from that.

it was good, but not 300 times better than 'nathan barley'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

30 times?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

IT Crowd would've been a lot better without the Irish guy.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

no. i actually disagree that it's better, but even if i dodn't i wouldn't say more than 1.5 times.

xpost

steve otm

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

it had jokes and didn't feel like an attempt to make a big insightful statement about something. nathan barley missed so many targets, pulled so many punches and generally got the tone wrong (we should HATE NB) that for me at least its glaring faults overrid any of it's mildly amusing qualities.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

well this was the thing, we weren't entirely supposed to hate nathan barley.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Are you sure that's not just because they fucked up the characterisation?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

oh he was hateable enough but his foil dan ashcroft, ie the viewers, was not much better. and i guess you can hate someone and be jealous of them.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

if you don't hate him what's the point? the original tv go home columns had him (or maybe it was his frineds) getting blowjobs from underage hookers and stuff. in the tv show he's just bloke in a silly hat who says daft things. how are we supposed to give a shit about might boosh man if all he's supposedly kicking against are people who are a bit silly? they could have created a proper comedy monster but it was just nothing.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the original tv go home columns had him (or maybe it was his frineds) getting blowjobs from underage hookers and stuff.

this happened in the show except he thought she turned out not be under-age (at which point NB thinking it now okay to pretend she WAS under-age was actually quite a clever little point about...something or other).

i did hate NB but yes no less than anyone else around him.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

no more, rather

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought that was kinda the idea, that NB was a harmless berk, mooching around London and getting into scrapes like a coked up Shaggy, and DA (because of his own self-loathing) decides to not sort himself out, but instead write columns about how idiotic the rest of the world is.

Actually, scratch that, that's not the idea at all. It's funny caricatures falling into situations and scrambling to return to the status quo whilst simultaneously being trapped; a very old-fashioned sitcom thread. I certainly didn't feel that is was trying to make a big insightful statement about something, at least, nothing larger than "it's better to like something than to dislike something."

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

the barley getting a bj ep was better than any 'it crowd'.

'THIR-FUCKING-TEEN'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Acrobat OTM.
In TV Go Home, 'Cunt' was unbridled misanthropy. 'Nathan Barley' gave us a guy who was a bit of a tool. You could forgive Barley being sympathetic if it was an entirely naturalistic piece, but the tone was so inconsistent.

In fairness, I guess originally Barley wasn't really a character, just a cipher, and in making him human Morriss and Brooker made him more, er, human. I just don't think that made for great comedy. It wasn't sharp enough to be genuine satire and it wasn't silly enough to be knockabout comedy. It was just 'dark'.

Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

on a thread that started with a load of gervais bashing... Barley should have been presented more like david brent. deluded, egotistical, actually unpleasant but whom we might in the end feel some sympathy for. all the "idiots" seemed nice, there was so sense of infighting or bitchiness which seemed wrong to me. also they could have had some more funny lines.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

So was the "nicening" of NB down to Brooker, Morris, or Channel 4 themselves?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

what do YOU think?

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

'Cunt' was very funny in TVGH, on the whole, but a half-hour show on actual telly where he actually did those things would have probably been a bit shit to say the least

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I've just rememberd Baddiel's Syndrome again.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

lost classic?

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

certainly one of those two

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Should have been 30 minutes each week of David Baddiel pointing out who people look like.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Or a study of people who keep saying things sarcastically even if they mean it sincerely (this may be more Newman Syndrome tho).

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

those baddiel and skinner unplanned episodes are the nadir of something or rather. some cultural wave definetely died on that sofa. faux laddism or whatever john harris, james brown called it finally dying on it's arse as middle aged men bullying people without microphones.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

'So was the "nicening" of NB down to Brooker, Morris, or Channel 4 themselves?'

I doubt whether Channel 4 enforced any 'nicening'.
You know, maybe Barley always looked like that in Brooker's head, and if you boil the actions in any of the episodes down to the kind of 3-sentence description that you would find in TV Go Home, it wouldn't be that different. But TVGH gave the impression that Barley was a cartoonishly horrible amoral grotesque, and that's not what we got in the TV show. We got 'idiots'. I hoped it would be either venemous or ridiculous and it was neither.

Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

francis macdonald of teenage fanclub etc on myspace on gervais:

pt. I

pt. II

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:51 (fourteen years ago) link

the comedy conceit of the piece is that people in third world countries dying of aids and starvation rarely complain about ME.

i lolled?

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm still lolling

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:57 (fourteen years ago) link

But TVGH gave the impression that Barley was a cartoonishly horrible amoral grotesque, and that's not what we got in the TV show.

Oh okay, I didn't read the website so I didn't know what was supposed to happen, I only saw (and liked) what did.

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link

francis macdonald OTM.

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

pt. II

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link

woah, deja-vu

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link

after his roaring sucess with the television adaption of internets phenomenon nathan barley i think chris morris should do a dark and edgy adaption of the potter puppet pals.(http://www.potterpuppetpals.com/)

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Mark Heap could bother Richard Ayoade. I smell ratings.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:50 (fourteen years ago) link

does anyone hold out much hope that chris morris will or even has the incination to do anything of the day to day / brass eye quality again? watching nathan barley i just had this horrible sinking feeling which i guess is why it seems in memory so bad. all those expectations. then fucking time trumpet. armando discovers youtube. that whole 90s axis seems to have really lost it. is it coming to the point where "new chris morris show" is as exciting as i dunno "new ben elton show"?

acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

no-one remains hot for that long, it really doesn't bother me. the question is does anyone younger got any game? morris will keep on doing things, and it's not out of the question he'll come back strong one day, but i would never expect anyone to consistently put out new shows on the level of 'brass eye' or 'blue jam' each year. that's incredibly rare in any artistic medium.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Morris' "hot" period was really short though: 1994 through 1996. Baby D were on top of things for longer than that.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i am enjoying Starstruck after the first two episodes. nice casting, fun acting, decent script, clearly a fantasy but a fairly compassionate and enjoyable one with about two genuine laughs per half hour. Matafeo is a new face for me and is welcome.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:46 (one week ago) link

her series of Taskmaster was good

koogs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:29 (one week ago) link

My boss just recommended Starstruck to me. Really like Rose Matafeo so will definitely give it a go.

ailsa, Thursday, 29 April 2021 18:35 (one week ago) link

re starstruck : i watched 3 eps today and really enjoyed it.
doesn't do anything out of the box, just some very welcome, feel good vibes with lots of chuckles.
looking forward to seeing the rest this weekend.
and yeah, she was very good on taskmaster.

mark e, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:04 (one week ago) link

I can only watch one episode at a time because Ireland, but I really enjoyed the first episode. Exactly what forks and mark e said. Nothing groundbreaking, but a very good feeling from the whole thing.

Did you see the film she did with Neville from the Harry Potter films? It's good too.

trishyb, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:13 (one week ago) link

Did you see the film she did with Neville from the Harry Potter films? It's good too.

not yet. been waiting for it to hit a streaming service which it has to given circumstances.
saw a clip on the last leg (i think !?), and it looked really good.

mark e, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:28 (one week ago) link

Her comedy special, Horndog, is really good - we were keen to see her after, er, seeing her and David O'Doherty on Celebrity Pointless.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:58 (one week ago) link

We saw her live at Kilkenny a few years ago. Annoyingly, she was on a bill with three very well-known Irish comics, so everyone was there to see them, and she got very nervous because it wasn't going all that well (it wasn't horrible or anything, just, you know) and she talked really really fast and got a bit squeaky, but we liked her very much all the same.

trishyb, Thursday, 29 April 2021 22:04 (one week ago) link

The new This Time was a mixed bag, as always.

chap, Saturday, 1 May 2021 00:03 (five days ago) link

agreed, but I liked it. I got more out of s1 on a rewatch. the three different phone icons was spot on, can't remember what else cracked me up

kinder, Saturday, 1 May 2021 09:13 (five days ago) link

The body language section was good.

chap, Saturday, 1 May 2021 09:36 (five days ago) link


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