― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Back on topic, I think putting a note through someone's door is a lot less scary and a bit more respectful than some things a truly creepy and obsessed man could have done to her. Though I guess it depends on the content of the note. But if it was politely asking for a date, then he may well have thought it was less embarrassing all round than chatting her up at work, approaching her in the street etc.
I know this terribly gender-traitorous of me, so I'll stop short of wondering how much different this would have been *had* he actually been attractive to her.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not saying the prior incident constitutes breaking the law but certainly explains the girl ringing the cops when same guy shows up AGAIN, this time at her house.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Dear fucking God. People today, waste of taxpayers money, blah blah *goes off to read the Daily Mail*
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not saying the guy deserves to have to pay 200 quid but for fuck's sake, the guy loitered at her work and left her a "love letter" and got in trouble for it (I'm assuming just for loitering in the bank, security guards get antsy), and then less than a month later stayed around all day and followed her home, and somehow she's the object of ridicule here and a completely unreasonable person?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Dude did something stupid. Dude got fined for it. Dude is obviously still pining but isn't going to shell out another 200 pounds. FIN (cue dalmation puppy on a unicycle)
― Dan (False Controversy) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost Dan is OTM! Also I wonder how the dude's gf of SEVEN YEARS feels! WTF!
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm just playing devil's advocate to everyone that thinks this dude is a creep. He's a bit of a div with a rubbish way with the ladies, yes, but he's hardly a danger to society.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Besides, if a guy is deluded enough to think a girl will respond favourably to a letter through her door left by a guy who saw her at work and followed her home, he is obviously a little unhinged from reality. How could she be sure he was harmless?
― Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Despite his lawyer saying he knows that he did something stupid. It sounds like he's still kind of obsessed and thinks his pleading guilty will impress the girl.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (For Her Sake? Come On Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
And lo, Ally turns out to be more frightening than anyone else mentioned so far in this thread...
― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
xx-post
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Are you new?
― Dan (Ally Is The Original ILX Gangsta Boo) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
to briefly address your question ailsa: the scots law of breach of the peace is so flexible as to be able to be put towards any action which can be deemed to be disturbing to a member or members of the public; it's really a catch-all crime (it's because of this almost indeterminate nature of the crime that it's been taken to task quite a lot, from what I remember, in strasbourg). here's the definition from a quick scout around the internet (reads like macdonald to me but there's no citation) (found on an activists webpage no less):
conduct "genuinely alarming and disturbing, in its context, to any reasonable person ... it is clear that something substantially greater than mere irritation is involved"
so yeah - another one of our problematic criminal laws folx!!
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
So you could be fined for eating an ice cream cone, alone, out on the street?
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 December 2005 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link
(when I was 13)
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
“your husband’s a lucky man”i actually heard this in an airport bar
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 August 2022 08:53 (one year ago) link