Freeview Boxes : Classic or Dud?

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argos are doing a wharfedale 160G pvr thing for £75 in their sale btw

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?catalogId=1500000701&searchTerms=WDTR160

have no idea what it's like other than the shape and the price. 8)

koogs, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I need to get myself one of those, but the thought of disconnecting everything and trying to work that into my existing set-up gives me nightmares.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i believe it should come first in the chain, then output to your DVD/VCR/whatever, which then outputs to your TV - i think?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

My OnDigital box finally died last week, so I replaced it with the only cheap crap that Tesco had. It's bollocks. Audio keeps going out of sync, and you can only pull up now/next info for the channel you're watching!

Staggeringly, neither can the Humax PVR that is tied for "best" in all the reviews. But the Topfield TF5800PV can, as it just as good, and also has firefox-esque extensions you can download to it. So that's the one for me.

stet, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I can press "guide" on the Humax and it tells me all the channels (providing it has been on for a few minutes).

We now have a cheap crap Tesco telly that is digtal-enabled, but it is total shit, can't get a decent picture for most of the channels, whereas the Humax can get a good picture through the same (not very good) aerial setup.

Mind you, all I do is record crap and never watch it.

PS: What did you end up doing, Deano? Giving up and Watching To The Manor Born?

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(Portal / Half Life 2 / babylon 5 avis on laptop)

koogs, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

um, Teletext Extra. meant to be a 14 day episode guide but what you end up with is (virgin broadband) adverts top and bottom and room for 5 channels worth of listings in the middle = so much paging up and down.

new set top box is sharing a scart lead and a plug socket with the dvd. bit of a faff but should be ok as i should never be using both at the same time. but unplugging set top box means having to sit through 5 minutes of setup every time i turn it on. oh um. it's 'interactive' red button indicator is also eye-searingly bright compared to the last one.

koogs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

So, until last weekend I had all the 'normal' channels (bbc1,bbc2,itv1,c4,5) working tickety boo through the freeview box, suddenly itv1,4 and 5 give me "no signal' or "service unavailable" and when I re-tune they've gone altogether. What gives?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Reload your channels when it's quiet and the reception is good (i.e. not during a thunderstorm)

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Somebody told me that I should "empty" the box first by unplugging it from the aerial so you that when you retune you get nothing and then turning it off for 15 seconds and then plugging it all back in to re-tune again. Do you think he was having a laugh?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean - how would that help?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, but there is a 'replace all' option that's best. I tried "add new ones only" once but it ended up a complete mess (BBC4 was actually ITV3 and loads of other type mixups)

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking at to-days listings I can see that would be disastrous - sitting down to enjoy Masterpieces of Vienna and being confronted with The Two Ronnies. For shame.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

You'd only know which one you were watching when the fat lady started to sing! (maybe)

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Miss Elaine Paige is not fat.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

She's not as thin as she was.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Rear of the Year 1984.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Weren't we all.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm getting really pissed off with freeview. The reception has been terrible recently and half the channels have gone including C4. Someone down my road reckons it's because they've changed transmitters or something - could that be true? If so does that mean I need a new arial or can I just get on the roof and point it in another direction. I emailed the freeview website and (quelle fckng surprise) no answr. If this is still the case when they switch of analogue I am not going to be happy.

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 21 January 2008 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the channels are reasonable. Some go into pixel meltdown every 15 seconds or so.

What to do about it? I used to have a standalone Freeview box, now it's internal to the TV, which is a drag for reasons probably mentioned above. (quick check, nope: Basically, I can't record off the freeview channels unless TV is switched on and showing *that* channel)

Mark G, Monday, 21 January 2008 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Well, those channels have had a big shift-around.

The one that had grrls in not much, 'vibrating' while shaking mobile phones has gone.

And "Russia Today" has begun, a news programme that's on 2 hours each day, around 07:00

There's one called QUEST that's starting in May.

Still, I'd scrap the whole thing if it wasn't for BBC4.

Official.

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://zattoo.com/

Jarlrmai, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

^ Shit, that's quite neat. Never bothered to check it out before. It's also a way of catching the Gaelic sitcom my mate wrote for BBC Alba (no, really) ... assuming they show it again. (If BBC Alba is anything like BBC3, I imagine it's on a constant loop).

Obviously, I won't understand a word of it, but hey.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

Mine are all working really well now. I watch BBC4, E4 and More4 and a surprising number of films on Film4. What the hell is on 5 these days?

commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

30 Rock! or maybe it stopped again

using Zattoo more and more lately

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

What the hell is on 5 these days?

FUCK ALL. One of the things I occasionally have to do at work is write little extended captions for the TV page -- ie pick something and knock together four lines about it for any given night on each of the terrestrial channels. The only thing that stops it being anything other than a one-minute job is the fact there is never a fucking THING worth writing about on Five. Once you've done CSI a few times, you're on to plums.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Peppa Pig getting short shrift here

also The Shield (i still haven't seen it but i'm sure it's lovely)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Five shows a lot of Segal/Van Damme movies.

a turducken of Hindu deities (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Dudes, Neighbours is on Five!

(also Highland Emergency, which no-one except my mum watches)

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

And also THE MENTALIST which is OK, if you like watching Cracker reimagined as glossy American drama.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Zattoo doesn't appear to have any of the additional ITV or Channel 4 channels, which is a bit crap. You're probably better off forking out £20 or so for a USB TV stick or something.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Dudes, Neighbours is on Five!

Thus my point is made. (I've always hated Neighbours. Even when I was a kid. Mind, I also hate fun.)

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think the 2 are connected.

Straight from the Top of My Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Rejected Neighbour spin-offs:

Bouncer's Nightmare
Bertha Goes Bananas
The Mangles Christmas Carol

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

and not forgetting "Hello again, we bludgeon"

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

> 30 Rock! or maybe it stopped again

last 2 of season 2 are on friday night.

five.tv seems to be of the same opinion as grimly, the listings link keeps giving me:

"The system cannot find the path specified."

anyway, gadget show (increasingly terrible), NCIS (increasingly terrible) and Numb3rs (increasingly terrible) are all on 5. as are L&O:* (although despite being 4 or 5 years behind on L&O:SVU they keep showing only repeats)

koogs, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

five.tv is one of the worst web sites ever made, and it hasn't changed in fucking years. Just try to find information about the baseball games they show. I dare you! They show two games a week. What teams will be playing? Who knows!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

apparently HD is coming to freeview on or around nov. 1! hotcha

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 August 2009 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

that's BBC HD, mind you - which i believe currently has about five shows on repeat and a test card

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 August 2009 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/3098983708_59d3a0f7c9_b.jpg

the "x" on the tic-tac-toe board marks the exact center of the screen, fact fans

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 August 2009 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Remember to retune your boxes if you want more TJ Hooker and Ironside repeats.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 07:42 (eleven years ago) link

Channel 4 HD coming soon too, apparently. Course, existing freeview receivers (including lots of those built into HD tellies) won't actually be able to decode HD channels, we'll need new boxes for that. (although apparently the USB DVT jobbie I've got for my PC will be able to cope with it)

JimD, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:19 (eleven years ago) link

You need really good reception for the HD channels. If you have problems picking up the regular channels, you'll be out of luck.

Unless this is what the whole retuning thing is meant to solve, who knows?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:32 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't digital reception become less of an issue when analogue gets switched off? Because then they can turn the power up without worrying about disrupting the old system, or something.

JimD, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

Remember to retune your boxes if you want more TJ Hooker and Ironside repeats

What channel shows TJ Hooker repeats?

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

still not got a humax

cozwn, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:10 (eleven years ago) link

xp the new Quest channel.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:16 (eleven years ago) link

I was hoping it was 24 hour repeats of old Richard Quest shows.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:16 (eleven years ago) link

Is that up and running? It's been on there for ages as "Coming Soon"

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

Launches tomorrow with the retuning, though it was meant to launch in May.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:20 (eleven years ago) link

Talking Pictures are showing Laurel and Hardy shorts on saturday afternoons, which is something i've always meant to investigate. 3 today:

Stan convinces Ollie that they should become fishermen, but making a boat seaworthy is not an easy task.

Unaware that the Great War has ended, Stan remains at his post for 20 years.

The boys are contracted to build a house in a day but run into trouble with the nearby hospital staff, due to their excessive noise.

bits i've caught in previous weeks had them playing their own estranged relatives, their own wives etc

(this is another thing to file under 'tv i hated on saturday mornings as a kid'. was more of a harold lloyd fan)

koogs, Saturday, 31 July 2021 14:51 (one month ago) link

All classic.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:05 (one month ago) link

i don't recognise the titles ('Towed in a Hole', 'Block Heads', 'The Finishing Touch') but the descriptions are familiar, especially the boat.

koogs, Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:12 (one month ago) link

Yes, this all sounds excellent.

the pinefox, Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:13 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Unusually good films on TV this week. Or at least, several I've not seen.

SATURDAY

IRON MAN 3: BBC1 - I will watch
FIGHTING WITH MY FAMILY: C4

SUNDAY

ROBIN HOOD: Great Movies (formerly Sony Movies) - this is worth watching
IF .... : Great Movies classic - I would watch this again it not for clash with other things

MONDAY

IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD: BBC2
THE OLD MAN AND THE GUN: Film4
(not to mention MY DARLING CLEMENTINE on Paramount)

TUE-THU: St Trinian's films on BBC2 afternoons

TUESDAY

THE SHALLOWS: E4

WEDNESDAY

PERSONAL SHOPPER: BBC2, probably worth catching on iPlayer
GRAN TORINO: ITV4
CROUCHING TIZER, HIDDEN VIMTO, as P.J. Miller used to call it: Great Movies

THURSDAY

THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD on Talking Pictures, though I don't need to see this again yet

FRIDAY

THE TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT: BBC2
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER: BBC1
MEAN GIRLS: ITV2
FLAMING STAR (Elvis Presley) on Paramount but again I saw this not long ago.

A lot!

the pinefox, Saturday, 21 August 2021 15:04 (four weeks ago) link

I'll try to watch:

IRON MAN 3
THE OLD MAN AND THE GUN
St Trinian's films
THE SHALLOWS
PERSONAL SHOPPER
CROUCHING TIZER, HIDDEN VIMTO
THE TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT
MEAN GIRLS

the pinefox, Saturday, 21 August 2021 15:05 (four weeks ago) link

always interesting to see the pinefox's taste in fillums.

film4 on thursday has a documentary on the Alien films that i don't think i've seen before.

Hallam Foe on f4 tuesday. have i seen that? was it any good? i associate it, vaguely, possibly incorrectly, with belle and sebastian.

(i am wrong, actual soundtrack looks more interesting - Pram, Orange Juice, Hood, Ganger, Four Tet, King Creosote, Quickspace, The Pastels, Clinic Future Pilot AKA, Movietone, Psapp)

BBC4 also showing Meades' Bunkers and Brutalism thing over the course of the week as well. it's probably all on iplayer anyway. (oh, it's not, but will be after tuesday when it airs)

koogs, Saturday, 21 August 2021 18:24 (four weeks ago) link

THE LADY VANISHES is on BBC2 today!

IRON MAN 3 was quite good btw.

Interested in HALLAM FOE

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 August 2021 07:30 (four weeks ago) link

, Koogs, but unfortunately I don't like that Jamie Bell actor.

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 August 2021 07:31 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

films you never knew existed (until Talking Pictures):

The Bliss Of Miss Blossom

Robert Blossom is a brassiere manufacturer and workaholic. When his wife Harriet's sewing machine breaks, he sends his bumbling employee Ambrose Tuttle to repair it. Mrs. Blossom seduces Ambrose, then hides him in the attic

(richard attenborough, shirley maclaine, also monkhouse, rushton, routledge, co-written by denis norden)

it's very swinging sixties...

koogs, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link

(forgot to tape Hallam Foe)

koogs, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link


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