Early Kuchar Brothers shorts: worth watching?

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Go see Kwai. Normally I'd say check out the Kuchar flicks, but it sounds like Lean's aesthetic appeals to you more than Kuchar, so go with your gut.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

you CAN'T rent the Kuchars (and George sez it's unlikely that'll change).

harumph.

(i'd go see the kuchars but that's just me)

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I'm trying to abide by a policy of not renting movies that were meant to be seen on the big screen. Otherwise, this wouldn't have been a dilemma at all for me, since Bridge is readily available on DVD. Dr. Morbius brings up a good point re: narrative content. I was prepared to sit through some horseshit moralizing and retarded narrative conventionalism in order to luxuriate in the aesthetic experience, same as I had to do with Lawrence. But part of what led me to ask this question here was reading synopses of Bridge's plot online and realizing that I'd have to put up with a lot of cheesy and unintelligent stuff in the narrative, and wondering if I should maybe give it a pass after all. But, on the other hand, I was worried that the Kuchars would turn out to be nothing more than a crude aping of the same type of big-budget Hollywood melodrama. If they're really "precise parodists" and not just teenagers with a Super 8 camera who happened along at the right moment in underground cinema's history, they might be worth seeing. I had a pretty good experience seeing Polyester at the same theater a while back, so experiencing a "more unhinged" version of a John Waters flick doesn't strike me as a bad thing. Hmm...

Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link

> I was worried that the Kuchars would turn out to be nothing more than a crude aping of the same type of big-budget Hollywood melodrama<

I'd call it a *transcendent* aping of big-budget Hollywood melodrama. Plus, a closeup of shit in a toilet bowl!

I saw "Kwai" at least once in a theater, and it doesn't approach the visual splendor of "Lawrence."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh boy, shit in a toilet bowl! Sod it, then-- I'm in.

Seriously, though, I think I'm going to go with the Kuchars anyway, on your recommendation, Doc. I'll let you all know if that was a wise choice after the screening tomorrow.

Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

That was rather surprisingly nice! I enjoyed especially some of the intertitles and the cartoon special effects, and the musical choices for the soundtracks were quite good. Thanks for the recommendation, all.

Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

You now have to seek out George Kuchar's The Devil's Cleavage. A feature length (more or less, if I remember correctly) that is the best of what I have seen from him or Mike K, who's generally not as good.

nickn (nickn), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Rented the Sins of the Fleshapoids DVD this weekend, which also contains 2 other Mike Kuchar films I hadn't seen before -- The Craven Sluck and The Secret of Wendel Samson (starring Red Grooms!). A must-see for proto-Waters, post-Anger genre-parody delirium. And Mike's commentary is as charmingly rambling as his NYC intros at Kuchar screenings.

http://www.othercinemadvd.com/fleshapoids.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

10 Kuchar films via Dennis Cooper:

http://denniscooper-theweaklings.blogspot.com/2008/06/bedsheet-4-thumb-tacks-16-mm-movie.html

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Awesome! Thanks!

Soukesian, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

NYC weeklong fest, Wed-Tues:

http://www.movingimagesource.us/events/a-lust-for-ecstasy-brand-new-20090311

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

george spoke once at my school and showed films, john waters did the intro. strange guy. i think ubuweb has some of his stuff online

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.ubu.com/film/kuchar.html

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

George's late '70s work with his SFAI students -- I'd only seen way more recent videos from the classes -- are an unprecedented level of crazy. Pornier, glowingly B&W, a time capsule of hot boys w/ bad hair and mustaches.

Forthcoming doc at SXSW:

http://blog.spout.com/2009/03/15/it-came-from-kuchar-review-sxsw-2009-2/

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

those 70s student films are totally incredible - what john waters' dreams must look like

double dutch bus schedule (donna rouge), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I just went to the 7 tonight, woulda got home too late ... saw their WW2 combat film The Naked and the Nude (yes there was a UFO).

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMfsF7FGkM

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 September 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

saw this '73 feature tonight... astounding dialogue even for GK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMBuzvkl82I

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 February 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link

I was right there with you, Dr Morbius. needed to justify an unplanned outing to chinatown to satisfy a sudden, deep dumpling urge, so tacked on a movie. a very good whim--had no expectations, but the best time i've had at the movies in a while.

snack, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

good!

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

George got a slide on the Oscar show, almost wouldn't have expected that.

nickn, Monday, 27 February 2012 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...
seven months pass...

Tonight I am going to see Corruption of the Damned / Eclipse of the Sun Virgin / Knocturne (all George btwn 1965-68). Anyone seen those? This should be p great, right?

Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 23 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link

This: "George btwn 1965-68" tells me yes.

BTW, ran into a Mike Kuchar art exhibit (he was even there signing posters) last week that also had a couple of his films being projected. Did he do anything worth seeing besides The Craven Sluck?

nickn, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

yes, Stevie!

lots, nickn

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

Can you name a few I should check out? The few I've seen of his besides CS just seemed like pale, wit-free imitations of George's stuff.

nickn, Friday, 23 January 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

holy smokes, those were great!! I wasn't expecting them to be as well-shot/cinematic as they were. Why aren't these available on DVD?

Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 24 January 2015 03:25 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Rewatched (I think i'd seen it before, anyway) George's The Devil's Cleavage last night at Lincoln Center, in glorious 16mm. Lurid, pansexual, delirious pulp parody, with a trollop heaving the contents of a bedpan at her hag-masked mother very early on.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 January 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

i watched jennifer kroot's "it came from kuchar" (2009) on kanopy. a loving and truly awesome portrait of the kuchar twins.

i would love to be able to acquire a copy of the "george kuchar reader" linked above.

bittersweet to see morbs' enthusiasm itt

budo jeru, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 04:32 (two months ago) link

Every time I see something listed as being directed by George Cukor, I wish it was by George Kuchar instead. (Not quite applicable to the 'I Always Get Them Mixed Up' thread, more the non-existent 'It Is Funny To Me To Mix Them Up' thread.)

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 04:56 (two months ago) link

lol, yeah. my brain makes that connection too

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 February 2024 02:50 (two months ago) link


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