Which is the one about space?
― The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 2 June 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Zeit by a huge margin, but I like pretty much everything up to Rubycon.
― unperson, Saturday, 2 June 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Stratosfear and Force Majeure are awesome though! Infact i've decided Force Majeure will get my vote. Though on another day it could've been anyone of 7 of them.
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 June 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Bootleg-Box-Set-Vol-1/dp/B0007TFI9M/ref=sr_1_1/002-7828815-2468817?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1180800230&sr=8-1
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link
^ worth every penny. avoid vol 2 though, that one has all the badly recorded bootlegs.
― ☪, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link
What years is Vol 2 from?
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link
76-83
― ☪, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll have to be boring and say Phaedra
― Joe, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Voted for "Stratosfear" although I prefer "Tangram" and "White Eagle".
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 2 June 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't heard Tangram. That's one of the reasons I stopped at 1979.
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 June 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link
And Force Majeure is generally seen as their last great album.
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 June 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0mgcTdridQ
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
By ambient fans, I would guess. "White Eagle" is a great piece of arpeggio-led melodic instrumental synth music.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
There are some not on the list that have some great music, the Sorcerer soundtrack has some really twisted stuff and I think Tangerine Dream's early to mid-80s records are still pretty good like Poland, Tangram, Exit and Le Parc. They might not be anyone's favorite, but there are some quality tracks on those later records. Sorcerer came out right in the middle of their 70s analog peak, so there are some really good stuff on that soundtrack.
― earlnash, Saturday, 2 June 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link
EXIT is particularly great
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 2 June 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I will check out Exit. I think a mate of mine got that and Le Parc quite cheap some years ago. Will ask him about it.
If anyone want's to list the great tracks from 1980 after then I would be happy to try check them out.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 June 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
8==Zeit==D~~is~~the~~best~~O:
― uhrrrrrrr10, Sunday, 3 June 2007 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link
^ see that man hasnt heard the bootleg box set
― ☪, Sunday, 3 June 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link
i've never heard zeit
― am0n, Sunday, 3 June 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I only have mp3s of the box, I will buy it next month I think. I hadn't even realised it was still available until I checked yesterday.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 June 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I just played all of these albums over the weekend and really enjoyed them all. Maybe I should check out Tangram and Last Exit.
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 4 June 2007 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Where's "Sorcerer"? That's a good album! Don't like "Tangram".
― Tom D., Monday, 4 June 2007 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link
"rubycon", but mainly because it's the last one i listened to and i can't remember whether or not i prefer "phaedra" (i don't think i do).
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 4 June 2007 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link
When I was a first-year undergrad, I started with the £3.99 Virgin Value LPs and soon hoovered up most of the rest of their catalogue trying to find another Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares. I didn't and had an anti-epiphany listening to Poland or somesuch '80s live LP and decided to sell the lot.
So I'll have to go for Phaedra.
― Michael Jones, Monday, 4 June 2007 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link
soon hoovered up most of the rest of their catalogue trying to find another Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares
Have you heard "Epsilon in Malaysian Pale" by Edgar Froese?
― Tom D., Monday, 4 June 2007 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link
i have a vinyl box set that came out in the states 20 years ago, consists of albums 1-5. that would be my pick.
― m coleman, Monday, 4 June 2007 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link
haha no one ever wants to pick from the selections.
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Tom D: no, I did own Stuntman and Pinnacles, though. I recall the latter being quite pretty - I may still have the odd track on tape somewhere.
― Michael Jones, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link
my fave from the 80's:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/611T6Z3EKYL._SS500_.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Monday, 4 June 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
he, he
― am0n, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump idea is awesome!
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 10:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i only discovered the 80's tangerine dream (aka The Virgin Years) and know little of their 70s work. only yesterday i blasted out Tangram which consists of a fair bit of DX7 gumph, but when they hit the right buttons - damn it was good.
― mark e, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link
The atypical Electronic Meditation gets my vote. Real-life drums make that and Alpha Centauri my favourites of the 7 or 8 TDs I've owned over the years. A reference point demonstrating the difference between orbiting the earth and merely floating motionless.
(I too wish the Sorcerer soundtrack was here.)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link
last hour or so of voting. Just incase anyones missed it.
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
A runaway win for Phaedra then. I thought ILM would've seen a win for one of the 1st 4.
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link
"Epsilon" is great - it was recorded halfway between "Phaedra" and "Rubycon", so how could it not be? First half of title track is a floaty mellotron piece that is really beautiful.
― Tom D., Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link
It's great.
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i really should get some more of their stuff. i had a bad experience with one of their eighties albums when i was 16 and it's made me very wary.
anyone heard the new one? (judging by the responses i got, it seems not.)
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
oh rats' fucking cocks.
that link, working this time
Found the "Epsilon" LP v. cheap a few years ago - great. Great cover, too. Haven't heard much TD apart from Phaedra though.
― willem, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost: or not.
third time lucky
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link
hurrah. goddamn nu-ILX :)
I hope Grimly bought himself some TD with his xmas money!
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 31 December 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
this is exactly the thread I want to see right now. Phaedra is incredible so I need to know what to investigate next. The answer is Zeit, it seems.
― bakerstreetsaxsolo, Monday, 31 December 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I really like Encore actually.
― Ned Trifle II, Monday, 31 December 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
But, yeah, Phaedra ftw. Followed by Force Majeure.
― Ned Trifle II, Monday, 31 December 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah! and if you like Force Majeure you gotta get Stratosfear too
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 31 December 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
You can't really go wrong with any of the albums on the poll though.
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link
It sucks about the vocals on side 1 of cyborg because the music is pretty tight
― lol is not enough (blank), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Ok so what's the scoop on White Eagle? Geir's description sounds like most of what I listen to these days.
― lol is not enough (blank), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that period of T. Dream was very straightforward synth with a very poppy edge to it, so if you like that sort of thing you'll like White Eagle and Hyperborea...will probably hit the spot if you liked those early Jean-Michel Jarre albums like Oxygene and Equinoxe, too.
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
Sounds good, will have to keep an eye out for 'em.
― lol is not enough (blank), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
white eagle sounds ace these days
its all about the title track.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
Took me 11 years but I picked up the two post-Atem Virgin collections (which are very cheap and sound great) and basically every one of these records (ending at 1983's Hyperborea) is pretty excellent. Varies from pop ambient-new age-y synth to haunting moody soundtrack patches to kraut-trance-rock w solos to match. I'll have to sit down and figure out all my faves (Encores and Tangram are both uniformly excellent).
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 January 2016 02:59 (eight years ago) link
This past year I picked up the deluxe 2CD reissues of Atem, Alpha Centauri and Zeit, as well as the 4CD Virgin Years: 1974-1978 box, and this week I got the Edgar Froese Solo (1974-1983): The Virgin Years 4CD set as a companion. Lot of great stuff on there.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:09 (eight years ago) link
The amount of music they made in those years is amazing, love Froese's contemporary solo albums as well. TG is basically unimpeachable from their beginning through the mid 70s. And the 80s stuff is pretty cool too!
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:15 (eight years ago) link
The amount of *quality* music, I should say. The purest 'light a spliff' records if you're willing
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:16 (eight years ago) link
Force Majeure is my favorite TG album, though, by far
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link
i find it hard to single out a fave as this whole era of the band is full of perfection for me.from the early space rock grooves, via the bonkers vocals album (which i hated at first, but now love), to the then futuristic sounding brilliant use of midi enhanced sequencers.a year ago i got the EF boxset and since then, my limited 12Gb phone has had the following on it : the complete Virgin era TD material, the EF boxset, Kraftwerk remasters and the latest Neu! remasters.i have had a few sonic based detours over the last 12 months, but this core set has been my mainstay of 2015.and i am still not bored with any of it.(hence the revival of the FAX groove in recent weeks)
― mark e, Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
Just listening to "Alpha Centauri", SOMEONE SHOOT THAT FLUTE PLAYER FFS! I use the phrase 'flute player' rather than 'flautist' because flautist implies someone who has some skill and knows what they're doing. The flute is a nearly insurmountable problem with a lot of (early) Krautrock - Florian Schneider is the only person who seems able to do anything useful with the damn thing. Also "Alpha Centauri" isn't very good.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
flute is a beautiful sound you monster
the longer i've lived with TD the less interest i've got in anything from Ricochet on tbh
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
altho some of Froese's solo stuff is still good up to the v early 80s
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
nonsense... hyperborea, thief, wavelength, flashpoint, logos all totally rule
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 27 March 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
... and White Eagle and Poland.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
Beyond Poland you're in rough territory though
― akb23 (Matt #2), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
I like the first couple of ones with haslinger ok
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
Yeah I've repped for Optical Race a few times on TD threads
― the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
as I think I've said on every TD thread, I get off the bus at Underwater Sunlight, although it has a couple of decent tracks.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
I've decided I really don't like "Force Majeure" very much apart from that awesome end section to "Thru Metamorphic Rocks". The rest of it is too like tasteful prog rock for my taste, too 'musical', and too much guitar and, as I think I've said ad nauseum, I don't like Edgar Froese's guitar playing at all.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
i have never ever FP'd anyone ever on ilm as its not my groove, but damn ...
― mark e, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link
LOL I was just listening to it and thinking this really is not the flavour of Tangerine Dream I prefer.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:55 (four years ago) link
I agree with you vis-a-vis Froese's axe-spanking. Dude seemed to think he was some kind of Neil Young-manqué, but he really hadn't the chops. None of that detracts from his talent as a visionary electronicist, mind.
― The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
I think he was hearing Dave Gilmour in his head.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
Also, I don't think they were very good at writing melodies - Schmoelling was the melody guy, and he didn't join them till later, I think? This album is just Froese and Franke, right?
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link
Force Majeure is probably my favorite album of theirs post-73 idk, tons and tons of cool melodies in the title track, not too much generic sequencer stuff, cool “bad” guitar sound, go ahead FP me
― brimstead, Friday, 24 April 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link
More like Force Manure
― i am a horse girl (map), Friday, 24 April 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link
i have never ever FP'd anyone ever on ilm as its not my groove, but damn ...― mark e, Thursday, April 23, 2020 3:49 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mark e, Thursday, April 23, 2020 3:49 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm skipping straight to suggest ban
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:04 (four years ago) link
dang, i am such a doofus. i love the tangerine dream records i have (zeit, phaedra, stratosphear, and Froese's Aqua), and i've heard their 80s music through various film soundtracks (ok, Legend mostly), but i had no idea about Force Majeure. i kind of assumed their band trajectory was the ambient early stuff --> soundtracks and more cheesy stuff i knew they had more traditional band roots but i didn't realize they had an album like this, and especially not one in the late 70s! oops.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:17 (four years ago) link
You should be warned that Cyclone, the album preceding Force Majeure, has vocals on it
― does anyone know of any choir-organ repairers? mine broke (Matt #2), Friday, 24 April 2020 07:53 (four years ago) link
not too much generic sequencer stuff
Talking of Suggest Bans. Generic sequencer stuff is virtually my favourite kind of music.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 24 April 2020 09:38 (four years ago) link
Also, since TD literally invented that sequencer-driven style of composition, it's kind of a low blow to insinuate that their use of the technique was uninspired!
― The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Friday, 24 April 2020 11:30 (four years ago) link
you're allowed to use every trick in the book, if you wrote the book.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 24 April 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
I think vocals are only on one side of Cylone? But yeah, the non-vocal stuff on there rules
― brimstead, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
re:sequencer arpeggios n stuff....ehhh but I just don’t like the sound of it for the most part, sorry
if there were secret Patrick Crowley remixes of 70s Virgin TD, I’d be all in
― brimstead, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
Is there another band called Tangerine Dream out there I've not heard yet?
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 24 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/56vOaoxFJ9-WnL2-pXWKiLAf7-M=/fit-in/494x480/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1029642-1185955842.jpeg.jpg
― does anyone know of any choir-organ repairers? mine broke (Matt #2), Friday, 24 April 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link
is there much sequencer stuff on the first four albums? I mean, I used to dig all the Virgin stuff but people change. they did a lot of cool stuff besides arpeggios
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link
I think "Phaedra" is the first one with sequencers but it is pretty much their signature sound, or definitely the most recognisable.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
I mean, "That sounds like Tangerine Dream", doesn't usually refer to guitar playing that reminds you of Edgar Froese, for instance.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link
right because all tangerine dreams before force Majeure only had sequencers, no other instruments or synthesized sounds
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:51 (four years ago) link
anyway yeah I know I’m a clod, whatever
just a bit of fun, Tom d, I’m not mad or anythingSorry to everyone else for shitting up to thread
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link
lol any excuse to bullshit about TD
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 25 April 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link
OTM
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 09:58 (four years ago) link