Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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There must be plenty of BC talk in the archives.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

this is excellent.

haitch (haitch), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"


really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation


really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks


merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

what's the story behind BC? it's two guys, right? they started their own label or something?

any back history?

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i may have under-rated "radiance" ... not sure

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

THOSE WHO ASK DON'T KNOW
THOSE WHO KNOW DON'T TELL

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link


only known photo of the enigmatic duo behind basic channel

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

just buy the comp (ESSENTIAL), then buy them all on vinyl. that's less than $100 total, which is a piece of cake unless you're a lightweight.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

buy the vinyl 1st. 5 to 8 minute edits of 20 minute dub techno epics are for lightweights.

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

quadrant dub is the best.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

that photo is mike banks of underground resistance, no?

danny invincible (michael w.), Sunday, 26 March 2006 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep.

Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

listen to haitch!

also *cough* http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1669 , http://www.circonium.de/music/index.html (I'm sure there used to be a really great feature on this site too, but it seems to have gone).

file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 26 March 2006 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link

the lyot reshape is all very well, but really you need the first 12 on M, with the maurizion remixes

actually, you know, the m series was better than basic channel

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 26 March 2006 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

agreed. domina (esp the c. craig mind mix) is amazing and m4 is a classic.

michael wells (michael w.), Sunday, 26 March 2006 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I like those Round One-Round Five singles they wrote/produced. It was on Main Street Records, part of the BC label umbrella....New Day is a really great single. You can get them all on one CD.

GALKIN (GALKIN), Sunday, 26 March 2006 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Round one to five is one of my favourite CD's.

i wouldn't say the M series was better than basic channel but i've only heard the M compilation CD which is much narrower sonically than the basic channel 12"s. i guess it just depends what you prefer but i don't think they're better.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 March 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, the M stuff doesn't do it for my ears. i've almost sold that metal tin cd of it a dozen times now.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Sunday, 26 March 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

It's all good...just get them all. (don't forget those basic reshapes esp. The Climax.)

Omar (Omar), Sunday, 26 March 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

there's a great article by kodwo eshun about chain reaction (published in the wire in 1998) that's worth reading as well. it includes an amazing interview with rené löwe (a.k.a. vainqueur)--including löwe talking about his difficult life growing up in communist GDR, how eddie fowlkes was the one who taught him how to set up a studio, and interesting quotes like "I really like northern territories like Norway. I really like this kind of nature, rough but beautiful, a little bit cold, but in the evening really clear."

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 26 March 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the basic channel cd is a good place to start.

Octagon and or Octaedre is a personal favourite

tokyo ghost storiess, Monday, 27 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Basic Channel: Quadrant DUB, Climax Basic Reshape
Maruzio: M6
Main Street: Na Fe Throw It
Rhythm & Sound: Mango Drive

Marty Feldmen Books On Tape (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i think these are my two favorites:

http://basicchannel.com/images/records_297/m-3a.jpg
http://basicchannel.com/images/records_297/bc-07a.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I ranked the BC singles on the "rank anything you feel like ranking" thread 16 months ago. I hadn't looked at that thread in ages but I still stand behind my ranking:

BC 05 (cyrus - inversion / presence)
BC 07 (octagon / octaedre)
BC 09 (phylyps trak ii)
BC 06 (quadrant dub)
BC 01 (cyrus - enforcement)
BC 02 (phylyps trak)
BC 03 (vainqueur - lyot reshape)
BC 08 (radiance)
BC 04 (q.1.1)

On second thought, BC01 and BC02 should probably be switched, and BC08 should be bumped up a spot.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, my BC POO is "Prescence", or maybe "Octaedre".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

there's a great article by kodwo eshun about chain reaction (published in the wire in 1998)

wtf Porter Ricks is named after the Captain from the Flipper movie?? That is so awesome.

tylero (tylero), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

BC1 is my personal favourite. It's got this wonderful shimmering quality to the high frequencies that sets it apart from the other BCs. It's almost a reversal of the usual BC structure, with the treble taking on the role of all-enveloping glue instead of the bass. Vainquer developed this idea to an extreme with his releases on Chain Reaction, which were great too.

I second what people are saying above about the Main Street series. 'New Day' is especially fantastic. It's a shame they we ignored for so long by most of the people splurging over the rest of the BC catalog. Anti-house snobbery maybe?

jng (jng), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

erm... I meant "they were ignored" obviously.

jng (jng), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

New Day even has a thread dedicated to it here - it does get a lot of ILM love.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish Moritz & Co had done more vocal house

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Get one http://www.discogs.com/release/561441

blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

why do i get rhythm & sound and basic channel confused?

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

cuz they're one and the same?

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

oh really

haha

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

jah really.

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

People also confuse Maurizio as one half of Basic Channel, when it's both of them, just like BC, R&S, or the main street stuff. Chain Reaction and Wackies are another story though...

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not so into the second batch of rhythm and sound see mi yah remixes that just came out! not feelin the francois k remix--so boring!--and the others are pretty good but not mindblowing. i guess the villalobos/delay/tikiman action on smy remixes #1 just blew me out of the water, and now it's tough to settle for less!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, the second one is just crap. boring is a very generous assessment of the FK remix! I wonder what they were thinking. very possibly the worst BC family 12" ever.

a, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

the substance mix is ok but the FK is awful. he's really on a roll with the bad remixes these days.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, the FK remix is so unimaginative and unoriginal--it sounds like he phoned it in. for someone who knows as much about dub and house music as francois k, it seems almost inconceivable that he'd be that perfunctory-sounding with a rhythm and sound remix, of all things. you'd think he'd really put his heart into something like that. but maybe all that encyclopedic knowledge gets in the way.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link

then again, do the words "francois k remix" really excite anyone in the year 2006?

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

he has a pretty solid dj night, though. then again, there's not much happening dj-wise on monday nights in new york so maybe he doesn't have much competition. i saw rhythm and sound at francois k's deep space night maybe a year ago and it was great.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link

he def still has a lot of cache as a DJ, headlines the main room of Fabric a couple of times a year. must steer clear of playing his own productions out...

a, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.wavemusic.com/wave-label/9
xposts

blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i havent even brought myself to listen to bmx-2

where is the autechre remix for bmx-3
where is the merzbow remix for bmx-28

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf? no need to slag FK, he's done plenty of great work, past and present. perhaps the quality control issue has something to do with the high quantity of jobs he gets (relative to remix work by younger bucks).

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not dissing his past work.
high quantity of jobs regardless, this is a Rhythm and Sound remix, and it's FUCKING AWFUL. no defence.

a, Thursday, 30 March 2006 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh fuck, this stuff is incredible.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

where does all the air in the sound come from? Something to do with compression?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

sound is the compression of air, not the other way around.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i've yet to explore chain reaction.
-- friday on the porch (l...), January 30th, 2007. (lfam) (link)

i have wrapped my life in chain reaction. the records keep destroying me. hallucinator "morpheus" and fluxion "prospect I/II."

the table is the table (treesessplode), Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

On the speed thing, this thread inspired me to give Octagon another listen, and I cued it up as an mp3 since I don't have a turntable at the moment - and I was shocked by how fast it is at +/-0! (Octaedre is even faster, IIRC) I don't think I've EVER heard it that fast before, because I've never listened to it unmixed before, and it tends to get mixed with stuff that's more normal-ish kinds of tempos, at least in my experience. The standard tempo of a track is a great insight into what the context its creators imagine for it, and it's kind of blowing my mind they imagine it sitting next to the kind of brutal (and usually minimal, if punishing) techno that sits at that speed.

Elsa Svitborg (tracerhand), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Moritz's mix of Tony Allen is pretty much the only thing that's keeping me alive today

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, the speed is what makes octaedre for me. it's so fast but so skeletal... just a few elements in a huge space. i think the slight delay on the snare's reverb is what keeps the rhythm tight enough to work at the speed. it's like the track is just keeping time until that comes in.

friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

it's also noteworthy that the speed is there, but the BOOM BOOM is not. the beat is buried in this really nice way. once in a while i can hardly remember it is there.

also, i know i keep on saying this, but CHAIN FUCKING REACTION.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
omg n00bz

i FINALLY bought "pole 3" this past weekend, after all these years ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Weird, I was thinking about these records today. I always used to play them at -16% at 33rpm. I have the first three of them in a record box in my parents basement back home. #4 was kinda sketchy, he wore the formula a little thin by then. They are keeping my Gas double packs company. I haven't heard any of this stuff in years.

I had the day off and decided to play though some of the old M records and BC stuff. I need to pick up more stuff like this. I think it is getting to be time to revisit shuffled 909 hi hats and chord stabs.

Display Name, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link

pole fucking sux vahid looooo-l

am0n, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link

;-)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry that was very snrub of me

am0n, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

There's no need for us to fight, we're sister and brother.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i miss porter ricks so much.

and yes, chain reaction is totally classic, especially when it shows up in a tribal set!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Pole has a new album out on Scape, saw it at the store today. It isn't very good.

Display Name, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 07:19 (sixteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

classic post

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good
bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:27 AM (ten years ago)

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 4 September 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

Do Various Artists fit into this somewhere? Decay Product is a fantastic record.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Sunday, 4 September 2016 09:17 (seven years ago) link

Are these the same versions as on the 12"s or edited versions? www.discogs.com/Basic-Channel-BCD-2/release/1345423

Wimmels, Sunday, 4 September 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

bc2's tracks are unedited

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 September 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

thanks!

Wimmels, Sunday, 4 September 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

Various Artists is Torsten Pröfrock, some stuff under T++ and was part of Robert Henke's Monolake stuff for a few releases.

afaik this thread is mostly basic channel the artists/label but the chain reaction stuff was what they published from others

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Sunday, 4 September 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

btw saw moritz dj this year, it was good

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Sunday, 4 September 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

Destroy "radiance" for inspiring all that shitty echo cord emo dub shit

brimstead, Sunday, 4 September 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

enforcement is maybe the best for me. a brutal hypnosis.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 September 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

enforcement, phylyps trak ii, quadrant 1.1 and octaedre (though it is way too fast) are the ones that i still play out. phylyps trak ii still way, way out in front of all the others for me.

stirmonster, Monday, 5 September 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

my favorites are probably

enforcement
q 1.1 b1
infinition

brimstead, Monday, 5 September 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

All the 12"s were released digitally a while back - I got them from the Amazon MP3 store.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 5 September 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

classic post

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good
bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:27 AM (ten years ago)

― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, September 3, 2016 9:37 PM (six years ago)

i would like to revise these rankings

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:05 (ten months ago) link

at the time i was listening to a lot of hard techno, so probably overrated these two:

bc-02 phylyps trak
bc-03 octagon / octaedre

of the two i think octagon holds up better as a “basic channel track”. i like the weird blippy noises on octagon that skitter across the sound field like drops of water dancing around a hot skillet. octaedre is not so exciting for me, it’s like they tacked the maurizio dub house beat onto the a-side, doesn’t quite work for me

phylyps trak also sounds (to me anyway) a lot like octagon with a beat tacked but it’s that insane barreling early 90s german techno beat. there’s a mills mix on one side and that’s how i think of the whole ep, as the most “techno compatible” of the series. i have to admit i can’t really tell the three mixes apart. maybe phylyps base emphasizes the kick (phylyps bass?) and i think at one point mills adds some choppy transmat type snares and hats? i usually just pick one randomly when i play it

people complain about these being too fast, and yeah like a lot of the series they’re 140+ bpm! but i guess with the rise of new “copenhagen techno” stuff and current interest in juke tempo music maybe it’s their time now

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:28 (ten months ago) link

if it’s too fast you’re too old

brimstead, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link

bc-03 lyot reshape

here’s an embarrassing confession, i think i was confusing this one with the maurizio lyot remix, which is part of m series not bc series. that one is obviously eternal. i like how submerged and spacey this mix is.

the phylyps mix on the other side is as indistinguishable to me as the others. at 10 mins long it might be the most functional one from a dj perspective? i feel like i discover something new each time i listen to a different mix … and then promptly forget whatever i discovered. maybe that’s a feature not a bug woth the phylyps traks

bc-05 cyrus inversion / presence

i never listen to inversion. i’m not sure what the appeal is. i guess maybe the unique synth notes over the top? those notes sound vaguely middle eastern to me (like some sort of zither) maybe that’s why it says “cyrus” on the label? but i find the thick high frequency hiss maddening

presence reminds me of lyot reshape, as spacey as this set gets. it’s like listening to a glacier, or glimpsing an iceberg in the fog, a vague impression of something distant and massive that goes on almost forever and you’re only seeing the barest outlines. one of my favorite chain reaction tracks (ridis “foto”) pulls a similar trick ... but as as i love staring into the void, i’m not always in the mood for staring into void. sometimes it’s like sinking into an amniotic bath, sometimes it’s just too distant, too cold and forbidding. idk how it manages to be both, probably just had to do with my moods?

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:58 (ten months ago) link

xp TRUE!

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link

classic post revision

z_tbd, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link

It’s Saturday afternoon, it’s beautiful, it’s a clear and pleasant day outside, we’re out here revising the classics

z_tbd, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:03 (ten months ago) link

bc-08 radiance

someone on discogs called this “the most broken” of the series and yes i agree. similar vibe imo as presence and the phylyps track reshape, but formless to the point of evoking anxiety. thirty years on most of these records just sound like techno / house to me (testament to their influence over the genre and also how well they understood what came before them) but this is the one that still matches what was written about them in the wire (biba kopf?) … you’re never sure where the music ends and the static begins. the “radiance” of the title always made me think of the aura you see before a migraine, or maybe ghosts. maybe that was in the wire article too

as before, sometimes i don’t want to get quite so deep in the zone

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:08 (ten months ago) link

it’s cold af here (63F) and completely cloudy, i want to die

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:09 (ten months ago) link

perfect bc weather imo

z_tbd, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:14 (ten months ago) link

25 years ago I was really into this stuff but always preferred the Chain Reaction side of things. And of that, only still listen today to the Porter Ricks Biokinetics album. When I sold the bulk of my CD collection the buyer didn’t want my BC or Chain Reaction CDs so I have it for free to Wonder Book in Frederick Maryland for some lucky person to find.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:15 (ten months ago) link

“I gave it for free”

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link

bc-04 quadrant

i think of this one as the pop one now. partly because it’s the sampler, short tracks for diverse moods. classic dub techno (1.1.i) broken chain reaction stuff (1.1.iii) total zonk (1.1.iiii). but also because it has the funkiest track of the whole series (1.1.iii) ultimate dj weapon for any club, warehouse, party, wine bar, video stream, whatever

bc-09 phylyps trak ii

like m-04, m-05, m-06 and maybe m-07 this one is also in the pop category because if the tempo is right you can magically make it work in just about any house / techno set, you can pop in and out at any point or play the whole damn thing and it will sound good. absolutely perfect record.

and that’s just the b-side! the a-side is maybe just another mix of phylyps trak but with this relentless chord hit that pushes it to the edge of hysteria. not quite as versatile plus there’s a break you got to look out for at 8 mins that stops things dead in their tracks

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link

you’re missing out, you should revisit these

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:22 (ten months ago) link

bc-06 quadrant dub

okay so this one is the whole reason i revisited this thread. idk why but i never really gave this one a good listen. in my mind it sits very much in the middle of the series. it’s not as immediate as the club bangers (quadrant iii, phylyps trak ii, octagon, phylyps trak i) and it’s not meditative as the deep space drifters (presence, radiance, lyot reshape)

on the other hand there’s a few in the series that for whatever reason make no impression on me, either too monotonously tracky (enforcement), too big room trancey (hyperprism / infinition), too billowy and formless inna echocord stylee (basic reshape), too much a rehash / retread of what was done before (q “loop”)

unlike those, something kept bringing me back to quadrant dub. the warmth, maybe? so when the recently repressed most of these, i grabbed fresh copies of 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 (for some reason “radiance” was not repressed, but this is the other reason i am revisiting this) … i put on and … there’s voices? is that singing?

when i first put it on i’d had the windows down, there were kids leaving a game at the high school across the street (lacross playoffs maybe?) and i thought it was the music from their cars maybe mixing with my music? but no, there’s definitely a male diva down in the mix below the chords.

this is a revelation! how did i never notice this? has this always been here? obviously it has, but who is this singning? is it from a chez damier track? is it andy caine? was i only ever hearing the a side and ignoring the b side? or was i only ever hearing the b side (the vinyl sides i/ii seem reversed compared to how they’re presented on apple music)

anyway wow. just goes to show never know when you’re going to be surprised by something you never noticed in a track you’ve thought you’ve “known” for 25+ years

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:46 (ten months ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc04 q1.1
bc06 quadrant dub
bc09 phylyps trak ii

really really really really good but sometimes not in the mood

bc03 lyot rmx
bc05 inversion / presence
bc08 radiance

merely really really really good

bc02 phylyps track
bc07 octagon / octaedre

i never listen to these

bc01 enforcement
bcbr basic reshape
bccd q loop
bcqd hyperprism / infinition
cd compilations and mixes

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link

to sum up, i would say my respect for the classics has only increased and although on balance i still probably love maurizio singles and select chain reaction singles more i am ashamed for ever having criticized any aspect of basic channel releases #2-9

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link

M series is so timeless, I was bumping those in the car really loudly during the last winter time

brimstead, Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link

i am never not in the mood for m4, m5, m6

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:12 (ten months ago) link

Great (re)assessments of BC tracks! Quadrant dub: there really are vocals among the haze, as the 12" is versioning Round One's "I'm Your Brother" 12" on Main Street, another BC offshoot label, that has vocals by Andy Caine.

jvc, Saturday, 20 May 2023 20:57 (ten months ago) link

ah excellent thx. i actually have that one and always play the ron & chez “chicago twisted mix”, must be why i figured it was either a chez damier track or an andy caine track (it was both!)

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link

It's been a long, long time since I listened to the entire BC series (or the M-series for that matter). I think that Octagon/Octaedre would still be my jam (as it was 16!?! years ago), but I guess I should hear everything again to be sure.

I always thought that Phylyps Trak was overrated. I assume they wanted at least one, no doubt, peak-time club banger to come out of this project, just to prove they could do it while being faithful (kind of) to their overall aesthetic. Phylyps Trak II is much better.

Re: Presence and not always being in the mood to stare into the void: I totally get it. These days, I feel that way about some of these tracks too.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:21 (ten months ago) link


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