Bob Dylan Bootleg Series 7: No Direction Home

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Hmmm, tempting...

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Tell me a little about these 'alternate' takes. Are they much different (better) than the originals? Are they normal studio outtakes?

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

and what's on disc 1?

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Disc 1 is all folk stuff, starting with his first ever recording of Bob when he was in high school, 1959. Havne't listened to it yet, I'm stuck on the electric disc. But there's alternate takes and demos of stuff like don't think twice, Blowin in the wind, hard rain, chimes of freedom, and others. Looks great.

The alternate takes on disc 2 are incredible. Some, like Stuck Inside Mobile are radically different. Leopard skin has a different verse at the end, and Desolation row sounds much different, too.

On the whole, I'd say it's better than I thought it would be, and I thought it would be pretty goddamn good.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Best alternate line:

"They're spoon-feeding Cassanova/to get him to feel more assured"

on the Bootleg Series 7 version, it's:

"They're spoonfeeding Cassanova/the boiled guts of birds"

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 1 September 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

the second disc here is GOLD, especially the blonde on blonde outtakes. "leopard skin pillbox hat" has maybe dylan's wildest vocal ever. even for somebody (like me) who has a ton of dylan bootlegs, this set is more than worthwhile. the cover is surprisingly shoddy looking, though, and andrew loog oldham's liners are predictably awful. but otherwise, it's awesome.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 September 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

genius....

i can't find the standard "she belongs to me" and can't remember if the electric guitar was similar...but has anyone noticed how much the electic guitar in this version is the exact same sound as sterling morrison's "on pale blue eyes"? evn the phrasing is very similar.

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

totally!

dan. (dan.), Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes! There were several instances where I thought "that kinda sounds like the Velvet Underground"

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hum. i'm gonna check this out. hadn't even heard of its release...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 1 September 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"get him to feel more assured" is much cooler than "feeding him the guts of birds," unless this is the metal take. of course. (He used to do some metally stuff when i saw him in late 70s, just kept touring til the gospel was a-changin'.) Wonder if this alt take of "It Takes A Train" is the fast version, like on the Series Of Dreams box (earlier volume of Bootleg Series)? Anybody heard the Gaslight tracks Starbucks has an 18-month exclusive on? Think was out Aug. 30?

don, Friday, 2 September 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I'll wait 18 months.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 2 September 2005 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

They should release the entire Newport Folk Festival concert.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

also waiting 18mo's

bb (bbrz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

this is great. disc 1 is no slouch either. Not as jaw dropping and revelatory as disc 2 but the live vers of chimes of freedom is the best performance of that song i've ever heard and it has been a long time favorite. so alive and the vitriol he puts into the last verse, perfect timing between each word "confused, accused, misused.."

i had read about this months back but had sillily forgotten. thank you to thread starter for reminding me!

jared99, Friday, 2 September 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

it's different different take of "It Takes a Train," but one no less thrilling.

Old School (sexyDancer), Friday, 2 September 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

what's perhaps slightly ridiculous is that listening to the blonde on blonde outtakes here is making me wish for a "Blonde On Blonde Sessions" box set, a la the Pet Sounds Sessions thing that came out a few years back. I think I'm ready to hear all 36 takes of "Memphis Blues."

it's kind of boggles the mind how much more of this stuff there is--even with 7 volumes of the bootleg series thus far....when Bob dies, he's going to give Miles Davis a run for his money in terms of posthumous releases.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

They should release the entire Newport Folk Festival concert.

All three tracks of it?

Actually, I agree with you ... if "Maggie's Farm" was already on there, why not include the other two songs as well?

I heard some of Disc 2 yesterday ... I forget his exact words, but the guy who introduced them at Newport did announce that they wouldn't be playing for very long. I hadn't realized that announcement was made -- the oft-repeated story is that the crowd hated the performance because it was electric, but they were equally (if not more) upset that they'd waited all day to see Dylan and he only played for 15 minutes.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 2 September 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The version of Man of Constant Sorrow on this (and in the film) is sooo much better than Clooney's.

Jason Dent (jason dont), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

The film remains fantastically compelling.

the pinefox, Saturday, 21 May 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Just saw the movie a few weeks back and got the CD last week. Both are great.

I think my favorite thing is the rocking version of "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry". I love that song and I don't think it is necessarily the best take, but the song really works well both ways.

earlnash, Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

The podcast version of this takes the cake. Longer interviews, less Scorcese bullshit.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

huh haven't heard the podcast...where do you get it?
i love this movie, but can't help wishing that they'd let pennebaker go back and do the definitive 1966 tour doc. that footage is mesmerizing.

tylerw, Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

They had it on iTunes when the show aired. I doubt it is up there anymore.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

watch eat the document...if you can stay awake

Euler, Sunday, 22 May 2011 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

ha, i like eat the document, at least as a glimpse into dylan's psyche at the time. but it just seems like someone could do a really amazing 66 tour doc with all the footage in the vaults. maybe the best of it was used in no direction home, i dunno.

tylerw, Sunday, 22 May 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

No Direction Home sucked. WHY did they focus only on Dylan in the sixties?? Everybody already knows what happened to him in the sixties. They couldn't have gone into the Self Portrait disaster?? His divorce inspiring Blood on the Tracks?? His teaming up with Jacques Levy and writing "Hurricane" and "Joey"?? His bizarre Christian phase? His godawful '80s albums?? His critical resurgence from 97-now?? Such a missed opportunity. Maybe there'll be a sequel some day.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 22 May 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

the clip of Dylan outside the pet store rearranging the words on all the signs always cracks me up

Watched the first half of that last night on VH1C (& loved ^^^ that scene), but couldn't commit to staying up until 2:30 for the 2nd half.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

Most songwriters will never pen one song as good as I Was Young When I Left Home, which Dylan put to tape at age 20 and didn't even bother to include on an album.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:13 (six years ago) link

It's all true.

the pinefox, Thursday, 8 February 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link

His trajectory always amazes me. Any artist who could conjure those really affecting performances like "I Was Young When I Left Home" or his versions of "Barbara Allen" and "House Carpenter" or several dozen other songs from 1960/61/62 would have been content to simply perform in that guise for an entire career. And it would have been an important career. But that he went in a hundred different directions from those early years is simply astonishing to me. Such a brave artist.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 8 February 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link


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