A good day for Blue Note...

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"search" is really, really, really good. It has that eastern/modal feeling, without ever seeming like exoticism (sometimes exoticism can be good, but rarely for jazz i think). Also, this seems to be the only date that Grant Green ever recorded in this idiom.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

*stares, concerned, at one's already slimmed-down wallet*

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

heh well i am completely sympathetic, but, on the other hand, they are midprice at least.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

O well. It is not entirely impossible that I may run across a cheapish copy of Joe Henderson's "Mood for Joe" in my neck of the woods, sometime soon. But hardly the Lee Morgan, I don't think. Or any of the others.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

i don't have nearly as much jazz as i'd like,so chances are there are loads of albums i'd buy before these,but i remember a thread before about the amount of blue note albums awaiting rerelease,and doubts about whether some of them would be,so i'm glad to here this is happening...

robin (robin), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

Aaron -- is Lee Morgan's The Sidewinder ('63) any good?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 5 September 2003 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not Aaron, but the answer is a most emphatic YES.

It's pretty much "just" a hard-bop date (i.e. a few blues heads; Morgan had yet to get really modal), but it's one of the best - a definitive Blue Note session. Joe Henderson on tenor and the great Billy Higgins on drums. The title track is a total jazz classic and pretty much epitomizes the hard-bop sound; it defies you not to dance, even if only in your chair..

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 5 September 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks lots, Mr. Diamond.
I recently noticed The Sidewinder on some pretty long list of pretty cheap records, that's why I asked.
Now I also see that Cook/ Morton rate it very highly as well, in Jazz On CD. Hm, might get the record eventually.

(And ti's good you're not Aaron -- so there's two of you, yay!)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 5 September 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

but i remember a thread before about the amount of blue note albums awaiting rerelease,and doubts about whether some of them would be,so i'm glad to here this is happening...

The thing is, they are always re-releasing classic albums, but they have tended to favor more straightahead dates at the expense of more "out" records (and this is relative within Blue Note's catalog... very very generally speaking, and without having heard every allbum, I would venture to guess that what seperate Blue Note "avant" music from that of Coltrane or Ayler is that the compositions are more integral on a BN release, whereas Coltrane or Ayler might utilize short themes or melodies as starting points for very free improvising that ventures into all sorts of places not alluded to in the composition itself). Given the tastes of the general populace, this makes sense economically.

Aaron -- is Lee Morgan's The Sidewinder ('63) any good?
I honestly have only heard half of the album, but I really liked what I heard, and the title track is very classic.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 6 September 2003 05:53 (twenty years ago) link

Good to see some Jackie Mclean albums finally get re-issued. They have been out of print for too long.

Search for A New Land is a pretty great Lee Morgan album, I want to see Morgan's The Cooker reissued though.

Geoffrey Balasoglou, Sunday, 7 September 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

I have an older CD version of Search For The New Land; it was reissued once before, in 1988. If there's bonus tracks, though, I might upgrade. And I'll want that Mode For Joe. Wayne Shorter usually does nothing for me, though, outside of his work as a sideman with Blakey and Miles.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 7 September 2003 12:28 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
no bonus tracks on "search" and i had forgotten how much "search" (the track) stood out on the album. why did i remember there being more material like that? i dont know, but obv the rest of the date is a little more straightahead but still good. have you heard shorter's "night dreamer"?

update:
on oct 7, blue note will be releasing:
Lee Morgan "Sonic Boom"
Sam Rivers "Fucshia Swing Song"
Andrew Hill "Passing Ships" which is something from the sixties that hasnt been released ever i think (or at least that is what i think i read)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 29 September 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

i am a whore for reissues.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 29 September 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

It ain't Blue Note, but this week's Forced Exposure e-mail lists a Japanese reissue of Cecil Taylor's Live In The Black Forest. It's never been on CD before. Features the late-70s Unit (Raphe Malik on trumpet, Jimmy Lyons on alto sax, Ramsey Ameen on violin, Sirone on bass, Ronald Shannon Jackson on drums) that played on 3 Phasis, The Cecil Taylor Unit and One Too Many Salty Swift And Not Goodbye.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

I'm so glad they're reissuing that Fuschia Swing Song. My jones for Sam Rivers just continues on and on.

I really love this RVG series. I wonder how long they'll go with it.

scott m (mcd), Monday, 29 September 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

CT record sounds very cool. i will look for it.

i wonder when unit structures will get the RVG?

They will probably go with it until RVG is too sick to do it. ;-)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

Just in case you were unaware, Fopp in UK is currently selling many of the (older) RVG reissues (and lots of other Blue Note) for just a fiver.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 10:36 (twenty years ago) link

nineteen years pass...

From this Joe Chambers interview, maybe I had come across this before but it makes a ton of sense:
https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/joe-chambers-blue-note-years-interview/
Unlike other jazz labels of the time, Blue Note paid musicians to rehearse beforehand, usually several days prior to the session date. According to Joe Chambers that was the reason why Blue Note recordings had a sense of focus and cohesion. “We sounded like a working band in the studio because we went and rehearsed for about a week. All of the rehearsals were held at Lynn Oliver’s studios. The music for Blue Note was more complex than just blowing sessions, so you required a little more time. We would put in four to five days for each album and by the time you went in the studio, you sounded real tight, like a working band.”

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

That makes a whole lot of sense.

FWIW I've really been coming to appreciate Joe Chambers more - first from going on a Bobby Hutcherson kick and more recently listening to all the Wayne Shorter records. I used to kind of think of him as poor-man's Tony Williams (I imagined to myself that they'd call him at Blue Note when Tony was busy), but I think that was unfair, he had his own thing.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 02:16 (one year ago) link

So much good can happen when you don't just insist on doing everything the cheapest possible way in the short run. That's why we're still talking about Blue Note and not Vee-Jay.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link


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