― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
2 types of college students: those who are there to study, and those who are there to ski. and rock climb. and drink inordinate amounts of alcohol. mostly liberal, although i'm not sure how many of them come from places in colorado that aren't boulder or denver.
ex-hippies: lived in boulder back in the day, are either raising their kids now to be liberal, or have already done that and seen them off to college or wherever at which point they cease being ex-hippies and start simply being hippies again.
exceedingly rich people: who knows their political viewpoint.
the thing is, maybe boulderites think of their city as being really liberal because the 3 conservatives who write in to the paper every day tell us we are. but i don't think in my 15 years of living there i ever actually encountered and talked to one conservative expressing their views openly. and hey, at least it's not the Springs.
A visiting, very lefty law professor of mine from Eugene, living in Boulder for the year, proclaimed Boulder to be a miserable fraud, mostly just a bunch of smug very rich liberals with the luxury of opinions that they can afford.
liberal city FITE!!!!!!
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Needless to say, being a buddhist from Boulder, i do think that there are a lot of very clear minded buddhists and Naropa students who really can't be grouped into any category. i know quite a few and would hate to see them pigeonholed because some idiots are busy Traversing the Spiritual Plane.
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
I keep imagining some hippie girl riding up Magnolia with a guitar on her back.
― Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.hellninjacommando.net/movie/pics/drunkenmasterii3.jpg
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't mean to pigeonhole anyone, I should say also I liked the atmosphere when I'd visit the campus occasionally, since it reminded me of my undergrad college, a place that also had a visible (but by no means majority) hippie-kid presence.
I think my friends were making fun of a very visible group of people who seemed to put their hippie cred above anything else they might do, and with my lack of knowledge about Naropa/Boulder I didn't know if my friends (former students) were the exception or the rule.
Which is all to reiterate that my impression above is only an impression. I used to notice a lot of prayer flags whenever I'd walk around my neighborhood in Denver, many more so than in any other US city I've ever lived in. Do you know what the buddhist pop. in Denver is?
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
more xpostsright. typo. gotcha.
xposting til the break of dawni'm in NYC now but go back to boulder for the summers.
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
...and I agree with Mandee on that one.
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link
I loved Denver too. What a nice town.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Sgs, I kinda feel the Denver vibe, and I
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyhow what I was saying is that I really like Denver now, and I feel like it's a pretty cool place, but when people visit I start to feel self-conscious about it, like it's not as RADICAL as I originally thought. I definitely like it here better than I did when I lived here before (February of 2003 through September 2003).
Although Lost Lake is going to be no more in 2 months time which is going to make Denver 100x lamer.
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I was sad to leave, there were things about it I really loved, people and my 'hood, but the suckassness of DU and how much I hated teaching cast an unfortunate pall over my time, especially after I'd spent so much effort moving there. I still think it's a pretty cool place though, it felt like half-town, half-city sometimes, with mostly the good parts of each. As in, there are plenty of good and great things but it's as if you have to know to look for them in a way, they're not on display as much as they are in a larger city.
I'd like to visit there again. I didn't do as much as I could've there--didn't go to the art museum, or any museums really, which is nuts 'cuz I heart museums. It must've been a weird time in my life.
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Have any of y'all been to that restaurant up the mountain outside Boulder? the Flagstaff Inn I guess it's called? We were on too tight a budget and too underdressed but it looked cool.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
:(
Denver is probably a bit more expensive than Chicago, but not much more.
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
It's funny -- I've heard people say it's expensive to live there but it didn't seem too bad in general. Or are you talking rent? I meant to check out housing prices there but didn't get around to it. I didn't really get the traffic thing either ... at least, Boulder seems almost too small to really have a bad traffic problem, no? Maybe we weren't driving at peak times though. The buses seemed to come by really frequently.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Last time I was there, aside from driving through, (which was uh 1996, to visit some friends at the University) there seemed to be a disproportionate number of young "liberal" well-to-do post-hippie Phishheads in SUVs (before SUVs were SUVs, actually) that appeared to be taking narcisism to a new level. But, indeed, this is probably a stereotype.
I have a friend who lives near Boulder that I visit now and again and he lives an idyllic life up in the mountains. I'm jealous about that.
― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
My rent is pretty damn cheap. I think it's a renter's market here. To buy a house is pretty ridiculous, but I think that's pretty much everywhere. I pay $475 all utilities included for a washington park 1-bedroom (it's tiny, though). Groceries are the only thing that seem overpriced to me.
Boulder is far more expensive compared to Denver. I think most one bedroom apartments are $700-1000 where they are probably $450-900 in Denver (depending on neighborhood and etc.)
― planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
in other news, thank fucking god Pete Coors didn't get elected to Senate, though there's a running bet going on in my family on how long it'll take Salazar to switch sides.
― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
So, I'm going to be in Boulder for a summer internship. A friend of mine who grew up in Denver says that Boulder is sort of a hippie town. I'm prepared for that, though, I think. It's all about what kind of hippie town it is. I'm in Ithaca right now, which leans toward the burnt out hippie side. As long as Boulder isn't full of people stumbling in and out of the bong shop, staring distantly and muttering things at my shoes, it should be alright.
Every third craig's list post in the subleasing section goes out of its way to mention that they are "420 friendly".
― Z S, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, ZS do you know this girl:
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/72/81/43300184/n43300184_30531059_1299.jpg
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
if you wanna get high give me a call ZS
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
^^ no freaking way
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
is a mound of guac standard taco topping in CO or is that just an Albertaco thing? can someone briefly say why The Springs is so bad and hated? Got family there but haven't been there for 20 years other than brief pass-thrus/stopping at Garden of the Gods/horrible sushi experience.
― Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
no freaking way to the mexican food or the twin peaks church / mall?
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
No freaking way to the Mexican! Or, I mean ... are you just comparing to northern Colorado, or have you eaten down south and you're still going with Longmont? I have a hard time believing Mexican in Longmont has surpassed what you get down around/past Pueblo.
Colorado Springs is largely bad and hated for being intensely conservative/evangelical, and having served for a long time as a center for lots of varieties of huge right-wing religious groups who want to focus on your family. It has self-consciously whitebread ideas sometimes, possibly due to fear of Mexicans; possibly due to its geography being somewhat deformed and disconnected in ways that completely blast any notion of human beings living in a community with one another, partly due to weird land speculation that went BOOM during the 80s savings-and-loan scandal; also possibly due to the Air Force Academy and NORAD being nearby. Also lots of people are weird. Also the Mexican food is not as good as it is further south, though if you live further south the Springs is a good place to go for bigger malls, with Chick-Fil-As. In sum, Colorado Springs is weird and conservative and creates a weird liberal enclave/prison around Colorado College, but on the plus side, the stretches of I-25 leading out of it are very pretty and worth driving on.
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i guess i would amend that to best mexican food on the front range (boulder, denver, ft. collins etc.). Actually have spent next to no time at all down south, though I'm planning on it this summer.
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
The drive to CO springs is pretty, and Manitou Springs is cool for the penny arcade thinger, but last summer my sister and I decided to drive down to CO springs to look around and go hiking and things and we decided that town is really, really hideous.
It does have a ZOO on a MOUNTAIN though which is cool.
I'm totally a northern colorado girl though.
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
This comes from growing up in Greeley I 'spose.
i went to a party near lefthand canyon (betw. boulder & lyons) a couple weeks back and it was a serious Boulder yuppie kind of scene. Very well-off pseud-bohemians. I won't front, though, I'd live up there in a second if I had the $$$. Outrageously gorgeous.
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks for the springs lowdown, nabisco. it seemed like a weird place to me, but not necessarily in an unpleasant way. but like i said, have spent hardly any time there in the past 20years. where is the good mex food south of Pueblo? Along I-25, or further west, in the mountains? I couldn't find any good food til I hit New Mexico.
― Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, I grew up in Pueblo, so I'm biased toward the Mexican around there. There's not much to point to outside of that in terms of specific towns, but anytime I had decent Mexican in small towns anywhere in the area -- Canon City, La Junta, Trinidad, wherever -- it tended to be a lot better than up north. (Never mind crossing the border into New Mexican goodness.)
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
(Now that I think about it, I'm not actually sure I-25 passes through much of anything between Pueblo and New Mexico -- Trinidad? Walsenberg? Rye? So yeah, once you're past Pueblo, you tend to start checking the mileage for Raton and not stopping.)
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah it's pretty much a no man's land past Pueblo on I-25, but I had fantasies of there being a Shangri La of Mexican food hidden in those mountains. If I'm not mistaken, Longmont has a huge ConAgra processing facility (chickens, for sure, don't know what else. i used to work at their HQ in HR), and employs a good deal of Mexicans, which would explain the food oasis there.
― Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Mandee - a ride from Boulder would be reaaaally awesome if you it's convenient for you. The only thing is that I'm going to be at work until about 5pm or so. Is that too late to swing through Boulder? If so, that's cool, I'll just take the bus to Denver, it's not a big deal.
― Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
<3 nabisco's second paragraph up there in his colorado springs post
― dell, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Zach I probably won't leave Greeley until 6pm or so... so yeah, the work issue isn't a problem.
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
awwwwwwesome.
I'll send you an email with my address. It's not hard to get to - it's a few blocks west of Broadway, on the Hill.
― Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link
hey zach, change of plans - my friend's band is playing downtown tomorrow (20th & Larimer somewhere) and then there's a party thinger afterward. wanna come down for that?
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
YES, that sounds great. Although, I may have to be lame and leave the party early, because I think the last bus back to boulder leaves around midnight or so (I could be hilariously wrong on that).
― Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
no, last one leaves at 2:20 am duder!!!
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
we could send you off at union station which is like 2 blocks from the party
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Mandalion/Picture2.jpg
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
whoa, gnarly!
Cool, what's the name of the bar/venue then? I can just meet you there.
― Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i'll email you, im still gathering details
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Mandee, I just got back from Denver about 20 minutes ago. What a fucking awesome weekend trip! I laughed so hard and so often over the past few days that I actually have a sore throat (best sore throat ever). We gotta do it again sometime soon.
PS Please don't tell anyone how much I cheated at air hockey oh wait what am I doing
― Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link
most entertaining air hockey game ever!!
yeah man it was great to meet you and me and all my friends had a blast!!! and you are welcome to our couch in denver anytime.
― homosexual II, Monday, 23 June 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Just got into an 40 minute long argument about THE ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY where he said that I was a hypocrite because I only am a vegetarian (a decision I made on grounds of energy use) and don't go "100%".
LATE UPDATE
he walked in and totally apologized. Maybe's he's not so bad.
SRY SO DRUNK BOULDER
― Z S, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I have a hard time making up my mind about Boulder. When we lived there, my friends and I used to compare it to Dairy, from Stephen King's, It. You keep looking around hoping that someone else will acknowledge that there is something terribly wrong about the place, but, like you said, it's all glazed over eyes.
That being said, there were days when shit was way bad, and all I had to do was take a look at the flat irons and it would wash away.
I was planning to move to China this fall, but salary expectations and visa problems are making that less of a viable option. I think my girlfriend and I are moving to Boulder in August.
Where are you from originally, ZS?
― Benjamin-, Sunday, 6 July 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
im ogin to colorado for a month on tuesday and completely bypassing boulder HAHA FU BOULDER
― jhøshea, Sunday, 6 July 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
what are you doing here jhoshea
― homosexual II, Sunday, 6 July 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Benjamin -
I'm originally from near St. Louis, Missouri. A small town called Farmington. But now I'm living in Ithaca, NY, but only until I graduate next May. Then somewhere else. I HAVE NO HOME.
Mandee
I'm coming to Denver on Thursday night/Friday/Saturday afternoon. If you would like hang 10 gimme a call!
― Z S, Monday, 7 July 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Alright, they don't like the "1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, ELEVEN TWELVE!" song, or the animation. FUCK THIS.
Mandee - wanna see Matmos tomorrow in Boulder? Pleeeeeeeease?
― Z S, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm down for Denver drinks on July 26th
― Jordan, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved Boulder when I visited. especially Boulder Brewing company
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link
what the fuck are these people
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Z S email me at dr dot drew dot daniel at gee mail dot com so that I can list you in Boulder brah
― Drew Daniel, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Drew, I just emailed you, but since it's already 6:30pm I'm assuming it's too late for guest list action. No big deal though, I'll be there either way.
― Z S, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
WAIT IS IT TONIGHT OR WEDNESDAY ZACH!!?!?
― homosexual II, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry i just now saw this! AND I JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK AND I STINK!
― homosexual II, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link
― Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Jordan is speechless!
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link
mandee, did you get my ilx mail?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
OH! Jordan!!! The email I am registered under is no longer valid - email me at mandee wr!ght at gmail dot com
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
oh cool, i re-mailed you
― Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
They're still cool dudes though. My roommate says "Yeah, right?" anytime he agrees with someone else, which is endearing.
-- Z S, Monday, May 26, 2008 4:22 PM
RONG
― Z S, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
omg boulder is my least favorite place in the world
-- jhøshea, Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:13 AM
RITE
― Z S, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Anybody lived in Ouray or Silverton?
― Alex in Denver, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I moved back here, to Boulder. I got dragged to some awful show at the Boulder Theatre (Charlie Hunter), with a bunch of people standing around not even paying attention to the music.
This is the weird thing about the jam band scene. Most of the people I know who go to these shows walk around and socialize, meet people they saw half way across the country at some other lame show, and only intermittently notice the music.
Other than that, I am extremely happy. I've lived here before, when I could hardly bare it,but now I've got a decent job and can actually enjoy the place. Side note, this is one of the most fit conscious cities in the country, yet when I live here I pack on the pounds.
― Benjamin-, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Family vacation in Steamboat Springs next week, meeting up with even more family. I've always had an irrational hatred of Colorado, so I admit I am prejudiced, but I'm also open to having my mind changed. So: what am I in for? Hippies? Bobos? Bozos? I'm sure it will be fun with fam regardless.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 July 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link