― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Thursday, 22 May 2003 07:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link
― james (james), Thursday, 22 May 2003 08:29 (twenty years ago) link
HMMMMM eh? More fighting in the Matrix and less rubbish in the ship say I. Also GROOOO the lady snogging his out of almost-corpse? Put it AWAY luv. We could have so done without the love interest which made me shout at the TV towards the end of the flick. Hiii-YA!
I wasn't going to see Reloaded but I SO AM NOW. Any ILx-ers up for a cinema trip?
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 09:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 May 2003 10:47 (twenty years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 May 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 May 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link
If it's so jam-packed with stupid things, it ought to be easy to point one out rather than saying "Ho ho it's self-evident!" and cyber-smirking.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
"It's a killing machine designed for only one purpose. Searching and destroying."
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:12 (twenty years ago) link
(IOW, if you're disconnected enough from the film to single out dialogue gaffs that people make every day, you haven't bought the premise of the movie.)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
And they're all worth it.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 23 May 2003 08:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 May 2003 11:26 (twenty years ago) link
Sterling, that's my favourite too! I cracked up in the theatre when I heard that--I actually said to my friend "but that's two purposes!"
― slutsky (slutsky), Friday, 23 May 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 23 May 2003 12:34 (twenty years ago) link
Really, the movie is all about the special effects/fight sequences and the broad plot outline. The dialogue and actual acting is completely secondary. If you don't enjoy movies on that level, you'll probably hate "The Matrix". (Keep in mind also that an action film has to be god-awful horrible before I will say mean things about it.)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 13:59 (twenty years ago) link
Also the fact that it has more than one idea => it can actually get better as it goes on, a feat lost to most action films.
Examples of films that are bad enough for Dan to say bad things about? Are we talking The Saint, or Godzilla? Hard Target, or The Fifth Element?
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:21 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
I agree, but it's a pointless argument when discussing the movie with people who've already decided that the movie is dumb.
Of those movies, I liked "Hard Target", loved "The Saint", ADORED "The Fifth Element" and absolutely hated "Godzilla" (despite some fantastically funny parts).
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
Wasn't it already? Or that whole frozen-as-camera-swings-around thing? I thought the Wachowskis were allegedly sick of that, which is sorta funny. "Hey, we've pushed the edge! *looks around* What the fuck, why are you copying us?"
This thread inadvertantly reminds me -- Dan, I finally saw Dark City and lurved it, but wasn't sure what about the ending you didn't like, or at least my 'what does my twin not like again' meter was busted.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 May 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link
It was the whole "GOD DAMMIT, I'M PISSED OFF AND ULTRA-POWERFUL AND YOU'VE BEEN FUCKING ME OVER AND I'M GONNA TAKE YOU OUT... nah, forget it; let's hang out at the beach" thing.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Friday, 23 May 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 16:08 (twenty years ago) link
This does mean that there could be loads of potential for interesting ideas in the sequel(s), but I have a notion it won't pan out that way, because the stuff people loved is super kung fu from a gorgeous movie star. Also the animated thing looked dumbed down rather than freshened up.
(Note to Dan and anyone else interested: I suspect my sensitivity earlier is at least 99% to do with my rather fraught mood these days.)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 May 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link
It's unclear whether the human outpost was formed solely by people who broke out of the Matrix or if some folks who managed to evade the machine pogrom helped the founders break out of the Matrix.
The "love conquers all" message isn't out of touch considering that the dynamic is man versus machine/logic versus emotion. Keanu was already on the verge of mastering the Matrix in the early stages of that showdown (witness how he matches Trinity move for move despite only having been out of the Matrix for all of three days) and, after being pushed to the verge of death, Trinity's whisper into his ear gave him the last bit of strength he needed to dig down inside of himself and really let loose.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 May 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:35 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.technoccult.com/archives/2008/06/05/open-source-personal-fabrication-device-creates-first-copy-of-itself/
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay that photo.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe it can fabricate those guys a life?
― snoball, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
they're hoping for some emergent aesthetics.
― Kerm, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/mondooltro/mantrix.jpg
ENTER THE MANTRIX
― Abbott, Thursday, 5 June 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Surely the Mantrix does the entering.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 June 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
https://thechoiceisyours.whatisthematrix.com
trailer this Thursday
picking each pill gives you brief clips, I'm so hard for this
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
the clock gag in those clips is pretty neat
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link
also I've watched these clips a billion times now and I swear that although most of the clips you'll see again and again, there are rarer clips that are randomly placed
or maybe I'm just imagining it but I stg
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
ok so I wasn’t imagining things
The revived "What Is The Matrix" website can show you over 180,000 different combinations of teaser shots and footage from The Matrix Resurrections depending on chance and when you check it.Here are just a few cool images. https://t.co/8Qz2vCJ85D pic.twitter.com/p3iXcGga5w— IGN (@IGN) September 7, 2021
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link
"IT DOESN' MADDA WHEDDA THEY'RE IN DA MATRIX OR NOT; CONSCIOUSNESS IS ITS OWN PRISON, AN' DA FIVE SENSES AH' ITS WARDENS! DA TRUTH IS, YEH JUST AFRAID *WE'RE* IN DA MATRIX, AN' EVEN IN A BOUNDLESS DIGITAL WONDAHLAND YEH LIVIN A COWAHD'S LIFE, LIKE A DOG!" pic.twitter.com/2HuEp7oQZ0— Gretchen Felker-Martin (@scumbelievable) September 7, 2021
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
had to accept cookies before i clicked a pill...trenchant..............
― ✖, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB59tJPthZg
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
I mean it seems like it's a pretty accurate documentary about San Francisco.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
I haven't (re)watched a matrix since I walked out of the movie theatre disappointed after watching the third one, but that trailer has me anticipating
(I might just generally be missing watching big budget action movies in a movie theatre)
― silverfish, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link
i want speed racer resurrections
― ufo, Monday, 3 January 2022 13:18 (two years ago) link
I haven't seen any of this yet and may yet watch some of it, but I know the very general gist and saw someone else suggest that it should have been called "The Matrix: Rebooted," and I think that's very clever.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 January 2022 13:59 (two years ago) link
keanu is the uncarved block
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 January 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link
xp: It would have been more clever if this movie was a reboot and did not involve multiple resurrections
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link
Can I watch this if I haven't seen the third one?
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 3 January 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link
Yeah. Skim a plot summary though.
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Monday, 3 January 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link
this is one of the worst movies I've seen in a long time, it felt so small, stupid, cheap
― Bongo Jongus, Monday, 3 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link
Didn’t post this here the other night but this impenetrable line read is absolutely incredible & I keep watching it every few hours. When she takes the big breath and it’s STILL indecipherable? That’s the prestige pic.twitter.com/rQhHlIvRVY— Paul F. Tompkins (@PFTompkins) January 3, 2022
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
This movie is more enjoyable to talk about afterward than it is to watch imo
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
lmao at that video
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link
I thought I got most of that line when watching it.
Here's the subs:
You call this a choice?
Oh, honestly, when somebody offered me these things, I went off on binary conceptions of the world and said there was no way I was swallowing some symbolic reduction of my life. And the woman with the pills laughed ’cause I was missing the point.
What point?
The choice is an illusion. You already know what you have to do.
― adam t. (abanana), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link
it was clear, if fast, for me. definitely don’t judge it based off that phone recording of a tv
― mh, Monday, 3 January 2022 20:12 (two years ago) link
I will say that this movie is Exhibit 842 in my argument that Hollywood needs to get over its recent aversion to ADR. It feels like there have been at least a few incomprehensible mumblefests in most every movie or tv show I've seen from the past several years.
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 January 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link
I liked the new Smith, if only for the fact that it’d have been a dead giveaway from the beginning who Neo’s boss was. That facial expression as he sees the office shootout take place, his eyes settle on the gun that’s on the floor, and then remembers was pretty fun
― mh, Monday, 3 January 2022 20:30 (two years ago) link
I remember the "binary conceptions of the world" and "I was missing the point" parts. That was enough.
I think the main sound thing that recent movies have a problem with is that they do a decent surround sound mix for theatres but just use an automated program to convert it to stereo.
― adam t. (abanana), Monday, 3 January 2022 21:12 (two years ago) link
otm, and increasingly noticeable due to the thing with modern sci fi/fantasy/superhero movies where actors are given big mouthfuls of knotty expository dialogue that would read fine on the page of a comic book, but sound bizarre when a live human is told to bark it out as fast as possible in order to keep up the pace of an exciting scene.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 3 January 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
I liked the new Smith, if only for the fact that it’d have been a dead giveaway from the beginning who Neo’s boss was
Yes that did occur to me. So if Weaving had been available I wonder how they'dve got around that.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 3 January 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link
new smith was good, just having weaving play this version would have been funnier. it wasn't really a twist, it was made pretty clear as soon as he was introduced
― ufo, Monday, 3 January 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link
He has a bust of Weaving in his office and calls Neo by the wrong name consistently- I don’t think it was meant to be a mystery!
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Monday, 3 January 2022 23:34 (two years ago) link
i would've loved to see weaving play a douchey tech boss for the first part
― ✖, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 00:11 (two years ago) link
big mouthfuls of knotty expository dialogue that would read fine on the page of a comic booktell me you didn’t buy Shaolin Cowboy without telling me you didn’t buy Shaolin Cowboy
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 00:27 (two years ago) link
one of the issues with this is it has so many ideas that it doesn't really get the chance to explore them all. smith & morpheus are the biggest victims of that, though smith is still great here
― ufo, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 00:45 (two years ago) link
I read a review that said they should have cast Samara Weaving as nu-Smith, and that would have been amazing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 00:59 (two years ago) link
Could have gone with Tony Abbott
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 01:14 (two years ago) link
He wouldn’t have been able to pull off the “pretending unconvincingly to be human” part at the startCould perform his own system glitches though
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 02:43 (two years ago) link
one of the issues with this is it has so many ideas that it doesn't really get the chance to explore them all
Definitely felt this, but it's a much better problem to have than the opposite
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 02:55 (two years ago) link
He has a bust of Weaving in his office and calls Neo by the wrong name consistently
He has a bust of the villain from the game they published, and calls Tom by the name he is known by in their world? sus
just going out for coffee, game guy is much worse before the reveal
― mh, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 05:24 (two years ago) link
total milf!
i just think of the horrors that were avoided by zak penn NOT picking up the matrix ball and running with itam grateful that we got this instead like, i have been thinking about this a lot. there is so much cynical glib shit out in the world and manufactured emotion and especially in Big Event movies humanity doesnt always survive the moviemaking process from script to screen & i am personally so glad that this movie exists and that there’s so much soul in it and that it ends in a beautiful way
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 06:06 (two years ago) link
He has a bust of the villain from the game they published, Being punched so hard (for being a turbocunt) that his entire face changes shape!!! c’mon+ also in contrast to the already-established Thomas-desk statue of Trinity looking cool* as fuckand calls Tom by the name he is known by in their world? susDoes anyone else call him “Tom” familiarly? It verrrry much felt like a “cool boss” tactic equivalent of the more aggressive deadnaming that Weaving does in the orig(inals)
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 06:32 (two years ago) link
* I found the gun stuff mostly gross in the first one so adoooorrrred how neither of them touch one in this
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 06:33 (two years ago) link
yeah i loved that
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 06:56 (two years ago) link
stuff i didn't really like:
the action is fairly perfunctory - it's not bad but it totally lacks the cartoonish flair and ambition of the originals. it's not the focus and gets away with this but it's still kind of a shame?
morpheus mostly didn't work here & not having fishburne back was a real shame. he's also by far the biggest victim of too many ideas, there's just so much going on with what they do with him but none of it really goes anywhere at all & there wasn't really space for it to begin with. smith also suffers from more ideas than there were room for, but what they did with him works much better.
i totally get how people who hadn't watched the originals very recently could have found the plot hard to follow in places. i only had pretty minor complaints there though (smith's motivations here took a little bit to figure out & could have been clearer).
― ufo, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 09:22 (two years ago) link
re: the action, no matter how you cut it a film without Yuen Woo-ping is not gonna live up to one with him onboard.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 10:39 (two years ago) link
If you want more to chew overhttps://gizmodo.com/the-matrixs-queer-subtext-is-plain-text-in-resurrection-1848323936
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 January 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link
this is a good appreciation of Keanuhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-matrix-resurrections-is-a-crucial-keanu-reeves-movie
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 05:22 (two years ago) link
It is very weird to play Cyberpunk 2077 after seeing this for how much Keanu is in that game(and how monotonal his voice acting is)
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 13 January 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link
Griffin and David naturally go on for quite awhile about this one: https://audioboom.com/posts/8006197-the-matrix-resurrections
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 14 January 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link
i just love this movie
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:36 (two years ago) link
this is my husband chad
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:46 (two years ago) link
“Handsome Chad”
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Friday, 21 January 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link
the meta-ness of Chad is delightful
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 January 2022 02:13 (two years ago) link
the chad who is a chad, but also a construct and then the guy who shoots keanu doing violence in another franchise
― mh, Friday, 21 January 2022 02:26 (two years ago) link
AND the chad who was keanus stunt double in the original matrix
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 January 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link
ty for filling in the omissionglitch, etc
― mh, Friday, 21 January 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link
on rewatches, I appreciate that they make it clear that Smith isn’t a megalomaniac, just hates the Matrix as much as Neo. I don’t think he’d ever want to be a free range ai construct like nu-Morpheus, he just wants an autonomy that is yet to be defined. it’s impossible to be an ally or true enemy that doesn’t have a clearly defined idea of what they want
― mh, Friday, 21 January 2022 02:38 (two years ago) link
Finally got around to watching Resurrections - honestly I had forgotten it was even released. I was hoping that the movie would continue with the meta-commentary set-up in the first 20 minutes, until it because just another Matrix movie. Good to even great at times, but I couldn't tell you a goddamn thing about it now. nuMorpheus was underused.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 September 2022 11:04 (one year ago) link