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That sentence was supposed to go "At least genital warts implies sex has been had at some point in your life." Ooops.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

>We tried to revive it this year but the school we go to now has serious players

Yeah, Magic is a game that completely falls apart when people start to take it seriously. It quickly becomes that only certain cards in certain types of decks have a chance of winning, and often in very boring, cheepo, lucky-draw fashion.

Casual play is ok, but is still too expensive.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Lots of fun if played with somewhat random decks but totally sux if anyone's taking it seriously. The whole suspended reality thing hits me pretty hard so I really get into the cards.

toraneko (toraneko), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm still into the casual play aspect and mostly out of competitive play. Expensiveness of it all = clearly dud though.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 06:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

There was a pretty funny article in Salon a couple years ago about the early days at Wizards of the Coast, which apparently resembled a geek version of Fellini's Satiricon, before the company went and sold out to THE MAN.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 07:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ok here goes.

if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules. you needn't bother playing if there are no limits placed on the composition of the deck. wizards of the coast probably still publishes its "restricted/banned" card list as well. check it out.

when i was about 15 to 16 i played in magic tournaments EVERY sunday, and played recreationally with friends most evenings. yes, you could say that it was a very signifigant part of that time in my very sad teenaged life. at one point in the remote northern alberta town of 35,000 i grew up in there were three comic shops that all pushed magic quite heavily and at least a couple more places where the cards were available. some people took it VERY seriously.

i won't argue that magic is a tremendous cash sucker, and ultimately it taught me nothing about anything (there is little about the game that transfers to other pursuits) but there is a tremendous beauty to the inner workings of the game. it's not just about how much money you spend on it. in tournament settings, i was able to consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs (engineers, systems analysts) simply by spending a lot of time evaluating how the cards in my deck worked together. quite often the answer is not an "expensive" card but four cheap, nasty ones.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh and just for the record i don't play anymore and haven't touched a card in about four years.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules.

Why? I mean, in a tournament of course you do, but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Tournament rules are for people who actually know all the instant-kill power card combinations. And tournament rules are constantly changing because people figure out new ones.

fletrejet, Thursday, 23 January 2003 00:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?

dude i was like fifteen ...

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I sold all my cards to some dork for like $20.
I still sometime would like to play, but alas; it is too expensive.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dude i was like fifteen ...

Haha, maybe that was a bit too nasty on my part, but still- why not play any way you bloody please (or was that "You MUST..." comment just the way you saw it when you were 15?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If we judge a game by its players, and I judge this by the few people I've ever met or seen who play it, it's as dud as it comes. (This is not meant to comment on the people here, none of whom I have met.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I used to play... PROFESSIONALLY. How sad is that? You can make good money at it to be honest. The saddest thing most times are people who play it. It's 90-95% male, they're all super homophobes too. I used to wear t-shirts that implied I was gay just to mess with the competition.. and to get pictures of me in em in Magic publications (yes, there are a few). I enjoyed the game and the rules, and I met some good people along the way. The best part about Magic players is that they are willing to play almost anything.. so once you get fed up with Magic (which everyone does), they will try any other activity or game (Set, Settlers of Cataan), and jump on it.

I'm going to be branded a geek now.. aren't I?

Christopher (Christopher), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This is an internet message board Christopher = we are all geeks.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it's fun, if you have money to waste and friends that don't take it seriously.

webber (webber), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I used to wear t-shirts that implied I was gay just to mess with the competition..

Let's count the ways we could parse that sentence, hmm?

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 01:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Let's make that a little clearer... heh.

A lot of Magic players are homophobic (in my experience) and in order to throw them off of their game, I would wear a shirt that symbolized gay pride.

What's really scary is that I'm thinking about playing in a sealed deck PTQ in a couple of weeks just to see if I can still compete after not playing for years.

Christopher (Christopher), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 16:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Who up in this bitch fancies a game of memory M:TG*? I'm bored.

* (the one where you start with no cards in your card, draw one of your choice per turn, and no card can be played twice? It's kinda fun...)

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 18 April 2004 14:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I used to play a lot around 14-16 and did pretty good, but when I think
of all the money I spent on cards that just sit in boxes up in my closet
I get all teary-eyed. Those should be records sitting idle, not cards!

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 18 April 2004 16:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dud as hell. When I was 12 or 13 or so I went with my friend (who was into Magic cards at the time) to a Magic the Gathering "tournament" being held at the local Barnes & Noble. While my friend was playing Magic with someone, I walked around watching the others in attendance. At one table this guy playing said something like "I'm playing the Wall of Flame card". This other guy at the table said, "I'm gonna play the Wall of Pubic Hair card, hehehehhehe" in this horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voice. That was when I realized that there were people far nerdier than I could ever be.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
The game itself = Classic: it will be around for years to come, probably our nerdier kids will be into it or some incarnation of it.

The "90-95% super homophobe" players mentioned above = DUD. If I was rich (xpost it's expensive xpost) I'd probably play Magic Online, and not have to see the fat guys with "horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voices" that unfortunately define the game.

Richard K (Richard K), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I can't believe I never posted to this thread. I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

i've been having a lot of "fun" playing with the old cards I rescued from my mom's house. i refuse to spend another cent on the game, however.

ian, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

a couple years ago i went to a card & comix shop and built a decent blue-white deck for like $4.00, but all the newer card editions just had all these new retarded esoteric abilities that i had no idea about

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

also, the art was all these, like, cyber dragons and BULLSHIT

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic93875_t.jpg

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

rdw is always better than people say it is

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:28 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah also everyone agreeing that it's bad might actually make it a good time to play it

iatee, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:03 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/mono-red-at-worlds/

pvddr comments at the end basically boil down to red is still just fine, tier 1, although he wouldn't necessarily recommend it

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:53 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm thinking of locking in ramunap as my deck choice for the pt, it seems like the format probably won't be broken in any other direction by then and the deck seems easier to play than temur emergy.

i honestly don't know how true that is - the rug decks mostly rely on landing a single threat that you're opponent can't answer and then just riding it to victory whereas red requires you to make some real tough decisions about sequencing. also i think there's more skill to the mirror. i think its a good deck - its likely what im playing at nationals this wekend - but like most standard decks it has real play to it

fwiw i wouldnt lock in my deck this early - there's almost no benefit to doing it this far out and nothing in standard is complex enough that you couldn't pick it up closer the the event and still become proficient. also format knowledge as a whole is more important than deck knowledge imo so just playing lots of ~this standard~ with any reasonable deck has real value. finally a lot of yr % is going to come from the flex slots you use to tune yr deck and you're going to make better choices just playing the format for three weeks and not having blinders on

also if you want to borrow standard cards on mtgo msg me ive been playing lots in prep as well

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 13 October 2017 01:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I 5-0d my first standard league with it monored so clearly it's the best deck haha. I def got a sense of how the deck has nuanced sequencing decisions, though I think that's probably a skill that's fairly transferable from the decks/formats I play a lot, more than like, midrange mirror sideboarding in standard would be. I may take you up on borrowing stuff, I have access to red/temur on a friend's account but not control stuff. I'm all ears on advice in general.

iatee, Friday, 13 October 2017 16:23 (one month ago) Permalink

anyone have any deep thoughts on standard? I've been brewing this deck with a friend who's also going: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/801143#paper

it has okay temur/red matchups but gets super wrecked by that stupid abzan token deck, which I keep playing again and again online. not sure deep down if it's a better call than monored, or maybe even mardu vehicles. I don't really want to play temur.

I do feel like I have a pretty good sense of standard after grinding a ton of leagues online, though I really have no clue what to play.

iatee, Monday, 23 October 2017 02:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

tokens deck seems like the sort of deck thats overrepresented online due to being cheaper than other decks + gimmicky

ciderpress, Monday, 23 October 2017 02:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Mono red has pretty much dried up over here. I've been seeing tons of both temur and sultai energy, a fair amount of control variants, and then just dribs and drabs of other decks. Tokens is absolutely not a big player IRL.

Moodles, Monday, 23 October 2017 02:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lamp, any chance you have mardu vehicles stuff online? (or anyone else)

iatee, Monday, 23 October 2017 02:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

okay I've decided to lock in monored

iatee, Thursday, 26 October 2017 01:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm doing alright with it online and the temur matchup isn't unwinnable or anything

iatee, Thursday, 26 October 2017 01:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah i came to the same conclusion though there might be a good heart of kiran deck too

ciderpress, Thursday, 26 October 2017 01:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Modern GPs in Hartford, Providence and Toronto next year, maybe it's time for me to relearn that format

ciderpress, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah modern seems kinda fun right now actually, that new humans deck is cool. I think unclaimed territory might open up some other tribal strategies eventually. the format still has the same core issues it always has w/ super linear strategies / sb cards etc. but overall the meta is a little less 'burn/tron/valakut/affinity' than it used to be.

iatee, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

well i'm one of the valakuts so

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

you don't have to be...

iatee, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sorry iatee i dont look at ilx v much anymore - coincidentally i have been playing vehicles this week and can lend you the deck on mtgo if you still want

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 27 October 2017 21:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

are you preparing for this anyone btw? i can ask abt adding you to our group chatz if you want

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 27 October 2017 21:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I have 2 guys that I'm going with so kinda, but we're not a formal team or anything. I'd be up for joining your chat if it's nbd.

how are you feeling about vehicles? the sense I've gotten from playing against it is that it's a little too clunky after rotation, also has pretty bad mana. but it does play a lot of sledgehammer cards. I've liked monored in testing, I don't feel like the temur matchup is unwinnable or anything.

iatee, Friday, 27 October 2017 21:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the online meta is weird though, I think it might be really misleading. competitive leagues are...not really that competitive.

iatee, Friday, 27 October 2017 21:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

there's been a lot of players - even really good players - trying extremely fringe-seeming strategies in the comp leagues. i've been playing against u/b/x tezzeret decks all standard season and they've basically put up no 5-0 lists which makes me think its eitger a) they really are bad or b) are so good that ppl are deliberately conceding to conceal info

of all the hazoret decks i think its the most versatile and powerful. the mana is better than last season's although its still worse than your other options. unclaimed territory is legit good and dragonskull summit also helps. i played a small warm-up tournament and two leagues with it and have only lost once and convinced someone else to play two leagues to a 9-1 record but im the only one in our group that really likes the deck still because it can just be so clunky and poorly-matched based on how it draws. conversely it nuts really hard and feels unbeatable with a good draw

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think I can actually just make the deck online, I have monored and can just rent hearts / courtyards.

do you have a list you like?

iatee, Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I just top 8'd the Hong Kong GP! My top 8 draft deck was excellent - thought I had a shot of winning the whole thing (I think they'll have it up on the website soon.) Lost in the quarterfinals in three close games, even after my opponent mulled to 5 game 3. I think I could have played a bit differently, and luck played a part, but obv the weekend was a success on the whole

Vinnie, Sunday, 29 October 2017 14:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's fantastic, congratulations!

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 October 2017 14:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

congrats vinne!

iatee, Sunday, 29 October 2017 15:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

whoa congrats

ciderpress, Sunday, 29 October 2017 16:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

awesome, great job!

Moodles, Sunday, 29 October 2017 16:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks y'all

Vinnie, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

damn homie gj. ilx takes over the pt

iatee - I'm on my phone but I'll send you a list I liked. I 5-0d a league this wknd but idk how good the deck is. when do you leave for NM?

( ^_^) (Lamp), Monday, 30 October 2017 01:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

thurs morning - I'm prob just gonna play monored tbh, since it's what I know and I'm not gonna have a lot of time to test in the next few days

iatee, Monday, 30 October 2017 02:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

GOOD LUCK ILXORS

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Went 3-5, felt like I got pretty unlucky overall, wasn't super outplayed or anything. Most of my matches went to G3.

My friends who decided not to wimp out and stuck with that mono white vampires deck we were brewing ended up doing pretty well (8-2 in matches) and were all over the coverage. That deck really isn't that good though, I've played like 15 leagues with it.

iatee, Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:38 (one week ago) Permalink

I mean it's okay. But they def had good hands and the deck has some real bad ones.

iatee, Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh cool, that was your team? That's rad!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:46 (one week ago) Permalink

PTs don't have a day 2 cutoff anymore, right? Good luck tomorrow, you can still place well

Vinnie, Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:54 (one week ago) Permalink

no, 4-4's the cut off :(

my draft deck was a pretty good but not insane merfolk deck - a 2-1 deck that I 1-2d with. my only rare was the control magic, but I had a lot of cheap creatures and 4 run agrounds. merfolk seemed pretty open but I opened poorly. I won r1 vs ur pirates, getting him with the +5/+5 spell out of nowhere. lost to legion's landing r2g1 and got color screwed r2g3. lost to a ub deck that splashed sunbird's invocation r3 - just got buried in card advantage.

with monored I won the mirror pretty cleanly r4, lost to black cartouche on a hydra out of 4c energy r5, lost a close mirror r6 where my opponent mulling helped him get his hazoret online first. r7 lost again to 4c energy, actually beat a cartouche g2 but g3 he just had too many good cards. and won my pride match r8 vs esper reanimator.

I got to play magic arena, which was pretty cool. I think it'll be big.

iatee, Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:21 (one week ago) Permalink

this was my draft deck:

2 Jungle Delver
2 Shaper Apprentice
2 Shipwreck Looter
2 Ixalli's Keeper
1 Atzocan Archer
1 Sailor of Means
1 Vineshaper Mystic
1 Ravenous Daggertooth
1 Tempest Caller
1 Jade Guardian
1 Prosperous Pirates
4 Run Aground
1 River Herald's Boon
1 Entrancing Melody
1 Emergent Growth
1 Chart a Course
1 Crash the Ramparts
8 Forest 8 Islands

iatee, Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:13 (one week ago) Permalink

my friend who played our mono-w brew ended up 22nd, I kinda feel a tinge of regret for not being ballsy enough to play it and instead didn't even convert my safe-choice-deck into d2. he did get very lucky and knew it - every time he was on camera he had insane draws and not the 3 legions conquistador 4 plains hands. I think I maybe underrated how good the deck is against temur. I just wasn't winning online but he went 6-1 vs temur in the end, so at the very least it's probably favored. we noticed that pros were way better at figuring out how to play the matchup than everyone else. unsurprisingly I guess. anyway, I had fun, maybe one day when I have more time I'll try to grind my way back on.

iatee, Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:01 (one week ago) Permalink

glad to hear you had an ok time. its so hard to q for a pt i wish it were a little more rewarding to play one although ive never q'd for anywhere good, which might change things

( ^_^) (Lamp), Monday, 6 November 2017 03:28 (one week ago) Permalink

boy i hope iconic masters is fun

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:09 (two days ago) Permalink

ixalan draft hasn't been horrendous, it was just shallow. there were fun elements for sure, and games played out well more often than i'd have expected, but the experience of actually drafting was really bad. the only draft strategy was to try not to trainwreck. on reflection, i do think i liked 3x amonkhet even less, the big difference being the games played poorly in that format. up to amonkhet i was definitely still in that noobish phase of any limited is good limited but that format broke me out of that, and i had no compunction about just quitting on ixalan and doing something else.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:24 (two days ago) Permalink

i haven't loved any of the masters sets in draft yet, theyve all ended up being 5-10 different "on rails" synergy decks except MM3 which was just horribly unbalanced in favor of UBx control

ciderpress, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:25 (two days ago) Permalink

i liked mm2 a lot but it definitely fit that description. i ended up lukewarm on mm3 and vm. i wish i had played mm1, that seems to be the one that gets the most positive mentions.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:31 (two days ago) Permalink

I think ixalan ended up being a pretty bad format. in the end everyone just realized that you wanted to be playing bogles.

iatee, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:42 (two days ago) Permalink

i did my first draft in a few weeks a couple days ago and an opponent played the 4/3 2 drop, one with the wind turn 3, mark of the vampire turn 4, and i died with ixalan's binding in hand and no fourth land. a truly fitting final memory of the format.

looked thru the iconic masters cardset again and altho there are clear themes they are not anything like as deliberate or synergy heavy as we have seen previously. hopefully a positive sign.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:51 (two days ago) Permalink

Basically the more transparent a set is about having you pick from a menu of strategies, the less I like it. Tribal sets like Ixalan are the worst offenders here

ciderpress, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:55 (two days ago) Permalink

an opponent played the 4/3 2 drop, one with the wind turn 3, mark of the vampire turn 4

These are the games of this format that I hate, but I don't think they're all like that. Maybe one in four. This set plays a bit better than I first thought, though drafting is boring

Vinnie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:27 (two days ago) Permalink


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