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That sentence was supposed to go "At least genital warts implies sex has been had at some point in your life." Ooops.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

>We tried to revive it this year but the school we go to now has serious players

Yeah, Magic is a game that completely falls apart when people start to take it seriously. It quickly becomes that only certain cards in certain types of decks have a chance of winning, and often in very boring, cheepo, lucky-draw fashion.

Casual play is ok, but is still too expensive.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Lots of fun if played with somewhat random decks but totally sux if anyone's taking it seriously. The whole suspended reality thing hits me pretty hard so I really get into the cards.

toraneko (toraneko), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm still into the casual play aspect and mostly out of competitive play. Expensiveness of it all = clearly dud though.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 06:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

There was a pretty funny article in Salon a couple years ago about the early days at Wizards of the Coast, which apparently resembled a geek version of Fellini's Satiricon, before the company went and sold out to THE MAN.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 07:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ok here goes.

if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules. you needn't bother playing if there are no limits placed on the composition of the deck. wizards of the coast probably still publishes its "restricted/banned" card list as well. check it out.

when i was about 15 to 16 i played in magic tournaments EVERY sunday, and played recreationally with friends most evenings. yes, you could say that it was a very signifigant part of that time in my very sad teenaged life. at one point in the remote northern alberta town of 35,000 i grew up in there were three comic shops that all pushed magic quite heavily and at least a couple more places where the cards were available. some people took it VERY seriously.

i won't argue that magic is a tremendous cash sucker, and ultimately it taught me nothing about anything (there is little about the game that transfers to other pursuits) but there is a tremendous beauty to the inner workings of the game. it's not just about how much money you spend on it. in tournament settings, i was able to consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs (engineers, systems analysts) simply by spending a lot of time evaluating how the cards in my deck worked together. quite often the answer is not an "expensive" card but four cheap, nasty ones.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh and just for the record i don't play anymore and haven't touched a card in about four years.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules.

Why? I mean, in a tournament of course you do, but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Tournament rules are for people who actually know all the instant-kill power card combinations. And tournament rules are constantly changing because people figure out new ones.

fletrejet, Thursday, 23 January 2003 00:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?

dude i was like fifteen ...

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I sold all my cards to some dork for like $20.
I still sometime would like to play, but alas; it is too expensive.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dude i was like fifteen ...

Haha, maybe that was a bit too nasty on my part, but still- why not play any way you bloody please (or was that "You MUST..." comment just the way you saw it when you were 15?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If we judge a game by its players, and I judge this by the few people I've ever met or seen who play it, it's as dud as it comes. (This is not meant to comment on the people here, none of whom I have met.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I used to play... PROFESSIONALLY. How sad is that? You can make good money at it to be honest. The saddest thing most times are people who play it. It's 90-95% male, they're all super homophobes too. I used to wear t-shirts that implied I was gay just to mess with the competition.. and to get pictures of me in em in Magic publications (yes, there are a few). I enjoyed the game and the rules, and I met some good people along the way. The best part about Magic players is that they are willing to play almost anything.. so once you get fed up with Magic (which everyone does), they will try any other activity or game (Set, Settlers of Cataan), and jump on it.

I'm going to be branded a geek now.. aren't I?

Christopher (Christopher), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This is an internet message board Christopher = we are all geeks.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it's fun, if you have money to waste and friends that don't take it seriously.

webber (webber), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I used to wear t-shirts that implied I was gay just to mess with the competition..

Let's count the ways we could parse that sentence, hmm?

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 01:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Let's make that a little clearer... heh.

A lot of Magic players are homophobic (in my experience) and in order to throw them off of their game, I would wear a shirt that symbolized gay pride.

What's really scary is that I'm thinking about playing in a sealed deck PTQ in a couple of weeks just to see if I can still compete after not playing for years.

Christopher (Christopher), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 16:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Who up in this bitch fancies a game of memory M:TG*? I'm bored.

* (the one where you start with no cards in your card, draw one of your choice per turn, and no card can be played twice? It's kinda fun...)

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 18 April 2004 14:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I used to play a lot around 14-16 and did pretty good, but when I think
of all the money I spent on cards that just sit in boxes up in my closet
I get all teary-eyed. Those should be records sitting idle, not cards!

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 18 April 2004 16:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dud as hell. When I was 12 or 13 or so I went with my friend (who was into Magic cards at the time) to a Magic the Gathering "tournament" being held at the local Barnes & Noble. While my friend was playing Magic with someone, I walked around watching the others in attendance. At one table this guy playing said something like "I'm playing the Wall of Flame card". This other guy at the table said, "I'm gonna play the Wall of Pubic Hair card, hehehehhehe" in this horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voice. That was when I realized that there were people far nerdier than I could ever be.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
The game itself = Classic: it will be around for years to come, probably our nerdier kids will be into it or some incarnation of it.

The "90-95% super homophobe" players mentioned above = DUD. If I was rich (xpost it's expensive xpost) I'd probably play Magic Online, and not have to see the fat guys with "horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voices" that unfortunately define the game.

Richard K (Richard K), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I can't believe I never posted to this thread. I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

i've been having a lot of "fun" playing with the old cards I rescued from my mom's house. i refuse to spend another cent on the game, however.

ian, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

a couple years ago i went to a card & comix shop and built a decent blue-white deck for like $4.00, but all the newer card editions just had all these new retarded esoteric abilities that i had no idea about

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

also, the art was all these, like, cyber dragons and BULLSHIT

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic93875_t.jpg

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah I think even Maro admitted those were a mistake

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:44 (one week ago) Permalink

i didn't see that the Dominaria set is actually called Dominaria. that in itself is kind of interesting

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:19 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm curious if it'll have a Time Spiral vibe to it

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:22 (one week ago) Permalink

i wonder. that could've been a p cool alternative tack for a masters set

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:24 (one week ago) Permalink

most really old cards suck so it'd be hard to make an exciting masters set out of just dominaria sets

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:32 (one week ago) Permalink

that would for sure be an obstacle. there've got to be a few thousand cards tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:37 (one week ago) Permalink

i guess bad creatures alone might be enough to kill it

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

dinosaur set - cool
Dominaria - YES
Un-set - never expected this to happen, surprised it is buried at the end of the article

did a Unglued draft back in college and it wasn't that fun, actually. heard similar about Unhinged. some of the cards in both sets crack me up though. very curious what a modern Un-set would look like, after 13 years of lessons learned. I think they'll make it play a lot better than the last two, certainly

Vinnie, Thursday, 15 June 2017 01:35 (one week ago) Permalink

unsets are the sort of corny non-humor that makes me hate nerds so much. them existing makes magic a worse game

happy abt a return to dominaria

( ^_^) (Lamp), Thursday, 15 June 2017 06:14 (one week ago) Permalink

3rd Un-set already exists, it's called Future Sight

still pretty curious as to what an Un-walker will look like. can't believe Unhinged was really that long ago, wow

frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 13:26 (one week ago) Permalink

i had a couple akh packs sitting on my account so i decided to do a draft for the first time in weeks. looking at the first pack i just wanted to turn my computer off and go for a walk.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:28 (one week ago) Permalink

hehe i still like AKH fine but i don't love it like i thought i was going to at the start. i'm ready for the next thing.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:43 (one week ago) Permalink

they're doing a team pro tour next summer

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I only did one sealed but that's mostly because I've gotten back into online poker. Feel like I'm too far behind to start drafting this now.

frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:45 (one week ago) Permalink

also someone leaked a photo of part of the Ixalan rare sheet on reddit. no keyword mechanics in sight but there's a pirate guy that makes Treasure tokens that are basically lotus petals, and Sunpetal Grove is on there so we're getting that land cycle back finally.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:47 (one week ago) Permalink

https://i.redd.it/r7yoylx9ht3z.jpg

also has the pithing needle people have been asking for, though you have to pay an extra mana for the privilege of looking at your opponent's hand

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:48 (one week ago) Permalink

It seems like there are always too many people trying to force red white aggro, and the other colours are subsequently very open. Lay claim seems to go crazily late.

AlanSmithee, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:49 (one week ago) Permalink

I like that way better than Pithing Needle. One extra mana isn't that big a difference is it?

frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:51 (one week ago) Permalink

not really since generally when you want needle you're using it to turn off your opponent's deck, not just 'trade' it for any old card. but in that case the hand peek doesn't matter much either.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:53 (one week ago) Permalink

right, i think 1 mana vs 2 prob will prob come up more often than there being a selection of things you want to needle

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:55 (one week ago) Permalink

those effects are always overrated anyway, both needle effects and cranial extraction effects. people try to use them on everything when they're only particularly effective vs one-dimensional combo decks.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 14:57 (one week ago) Permalink

It seems like there are always too many people trying to force red white aggro, and the other colours are subsequently very open

i admit i'm curious what kind of correction has been going on if any in response to this kind of thing. didn't learn anything from my draft, was just a mess.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:05 (one week ago) Permalink

wow, look at those rares. 3 drop haste that...makes mana, a 7 mana draw 7, 5 mana anthem+. looks like might be a touch slower than akh.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:09 (one week ago) Permalink

xp i suspect GB or UG will be wide open most drafts, but uh they're not very strong pairs so you have to be sure that's actually the case.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:21 (one week ago) Permalink

not really since generally when you want needle you're using it to turn off your opponent's deck, not just 'trade' it for any old card. but in that case the hand peek doesn't matter much either.

right but Needle as sideboard to shut off combo always felt like kinda dumb gameplay to me, which is why I sorta like the one-for-one nature of this one

frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:26 (one week ago) Permalink

3-mana Conspiracy is nice

frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:27 (one week ago) Permalink

new Jace as well, with an interesting ultimate (looks like he makes copies of himself). this is quite the announcement week

Vinnie, Thursday, 15 June 2017 15:48 (one week ago) Permalink

a wider but blurrier photo of the rare sheet is going around now - kinda thinking maybe i wont look at all of these right now

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 June 2017 16:51 (one week ago) Permalink

brings back memories of when an Invasion card sheet leaked but was so lo-res that you could barely make out anything besides the gold and split cards (which no one seemed to figure out, everyone thought it was a misprint)

frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:49 (one week ago) Permalink

So many of the comments on mtgsalvation are that this leak is intentional. Because yeah, it makes sense to spoil mechanics, reprints, and chase rares for your fall set days before we even get spoilers for the set coming out in a few weeks. Meanwhile, I am expecting yet another article about why leaks are bad for the game

Vinnie, Friday, 16 June 2017 02:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I think the "future card in booster" thing is intentional but this, no way

frogbs, Friday, 16 June 2017 02:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Yep exactly. They are very controlled with leaks, and this totally steps on the toes of Hour of Devastation

Vinnie, Friday, 16 June 2017 03:01 (one week ago) Permalink

i looked at a few of the cards but when it became clear that the entire rare sheet was out there and not just a subset i stopped - would prefer to just talk/think about HOU rn

ciderpress, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:39 (one week ago) Permalink

relevant information for anyone doing leagues:

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/6hjf20/do_not_draft_on_magic_online_you_are_being/

frogbs, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:43 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah i call bullshit. would be insanely easy to spot this kind of collusion.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:44 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah i wouldnt be surprised if people pull that off occasionally but i think it would fail a considerable % of the time

ciderpress, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:01 (one week ago) Permalink

I know the more astute online poker sites would sniff this sort of thing out immediately. I don't exactly have that sort of faith in the MTGO staff though the popularity of that Reddit post tells me they're at least gonna look at it

frogbs, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:23 (one week ago) Permalink

It would seem unlikely that you could get 8 people into the same draft, even if it was when the queues were quiet at night - plus it's an international game, so night isn't night everywhere.

And then it seems a logistical nightmare for everyone to share their card pools, agree on the best 8 decks (or 7 if you're sacrificing one player) and then allocate them out given the time constraints.

All this effort for what? An increased but not guaranteed chance of some 3-0s. It just seems like fake news.

AlanSmithee, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah it seems difficult to pull off and the EV of this has got to be quite low for all that effort. But c'mon, you know *some* people have tried this.

frogbs, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

It would definitely be a risk if the potential winnings increase. But I can just imagine people trying it and it being a car crash. Dude, I was supposed to be taking the slitherblades

AlanSmithee, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:06 (one week ago) Permalink

if you need to collude to draft a slither blade deck i'm not too worried about playing against you

ciderpress, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:42 (one week ago) Permalink

if that was at all true then i wouldnt have to wait so goddam long for drafts to fire at 3AM

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 16 June 2017 23:37 (one week ago) Permalink

Haha yeah I wish this was true. This is way too much effort for little payoff, and sounds a lot less fun than actually, you know, doing a normal draft

Vinnie, Saturday, 17 June 2017 01:45 (one week ago) Permalink

http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/solemnity.jpg

is it just me or does this card singlehandedly kill a lot of decks

nice

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:08 (six days ago) Permalink

i hate counter's

ciderpress, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:25 (six days ago) Permalink

Supreme Will and The Locust God are the only cards i particularly like in this set so far

ciderpress, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:48 (six days ago) Permalink

Solemnity also auto-cracks Dark Depths

I like the new Angel that blinks and exiles.

Moodles, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:27 (six days ago) Permalink


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