I saw when she originally tweeted that and just assumed it was a joke tweet, but lots of people seem to be taking it pretty seriously.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 December 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
No, they are pissed she used abuse jokes, have not seen anyone imply she is abuse victim
― mh, Thursday, 13 December 2012 05:44 (eleven years ago) link
starting to suspect Lena Dunham could tell a lawyer joke out of the Prairie Home Companion joke book and get heat for it
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Thursday, 13 December 2012 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
true
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link
True, but that one was genuinely fucked up.
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
(and hacky to boot)
eh it was finelong profile of her mom in the new yorker
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8UMsK.jpg
― Number None, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
Booth Jonathan looking rough there
― Dan I., Friday, 14 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/09d3de4e333d75e051f8caf0e868a4f2/tumblr_mezqo8jJOa1qaywulo1_500.jpg
― You're gonna need a fruit kebab. Trust. (stevie), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
loooooooooool
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
ha
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Ok, Girls is winning me over.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
As far as the whole "Dunham is privileged/connected" thing, I basically came to terms with it like this: There are thousands of other equally "privileged" wannabe artists, writers, musicians, directors, actors, etc., and most of them don't make it because they are not as good or as driven as she is. At the same time, a person as talented and as driven as Dunham (which is admittedly rare) but without her connections would pretty much never have a show on HBO at 26. So I get the resentment but I also think it's overstated, because she is a genuinely good artist, and most rich kid MFA grads are never heard from again.
As far as the whole "the characters are privileged and don't have real problems" thing, I think this is a disingenous argument made by people who are largely jealous haters who don't have their own HBO show at 26. It's not The Wire, it's a relatively light show about twenty-somethings in New York, and I don't think it takes its characters overly seriously. The fact that their problems aren't immense doesn't mean that they're not "real" problems, even if they're not severe.
Anyway, I finished season 1 and I thought it was good. I think the show actually is gutsy and groundbreaking in certain ways, and at the same time it's mostly just good entertainment. Adam Driver is kind of transcendent, and way beyond the rest of the cast imo.
One surprising thing -- by the end of the season I just didn't like Hannah Horvath very much. I felt like the things people said about her were true -- she's overly self-involved and not a very good friend, and downright insensitive to other people on a regular basis. I found the date rape joke scene in the job interview telling -- that's not just some lol noob mistake, it's an absurdly clueless and even hostile thing to say to someone. I'm pretty sure Dunham is much more aware of this than Hannah is though.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
glad you came to terms with this sitcom
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
i like it when you cut people down, mh. it's funny because it makes people feel stupid, which is funny.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
apparently you missed the months of me being emotionally honest and getting artfully clowned as well. perspective is good.
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
i prefer a more artful clowning, that's all i'm saying.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
well, now I feel dumb for lack of art. do you feel funny?
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
poking fun at our group propensity for having to justify or reconcile our interest in a tv show isn't exactly a personal attack. pretty sure I did the exact same thing upthread.
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
too much privilege in this thread imo
― ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
;)
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
We go on hurting each otherMaking each other cryHurting each otherWithout ever knowing why
― buzza, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
what i wanna know are where are all the GIRLS ffs
<3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
yeah well, I've been getting artfully clowned for my earnestness here since like 2004, so w/e
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
all the promo for the new season has been SO BAD but I remain cautiously optimistic
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
hang in there, baby
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
appreciate it, boo :]
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but Donald Glover is joining the cast as one of Hanna's boyfriends.
― nickn, Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
Or, as A.V. Club put it:
"Donald Glover will be a part of Girls directly addressing all the complaints about Girls"
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
bad company reunion in season finale so psyched
― buzza, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
per a Morning Edition feature today... "MYYYY REALITY has to be part of every TV show I watch." Sorry, Toots, no. God, people are insufferable.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 January 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
One more pop-star question: What was that Drake quote in Vanity Fair about? ("Drake is not interested in you romantically or even sexually.") Is there a story?
There’s no Drake story except I think that the first time I was in Interview magazine, they asked, “Who do you want to interview?” And I was like, “Drake.” And they said, “Uh, we cannot get anyone to call us back. Drake doesn’t care.” And I didn’t expect Drake to care, although I know Drake has a crush on Kat Dennings; that’s his type. And I love Kat, and I’m happy for her, but I also think I just loved — I felt this real kinship when I listened to his last album that he was sort of ... I think kinship is the wrong word, but I don’t think I understood how much of a rap trope talking about the bitches and the weed and the money was not satisfying you was. I thought he was a fucking rap revolutionary.
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
damning
drake you cad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 January 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
― buzza, Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:29 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
text message: "come to the most important party you'll ever attend"
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 January 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
man, don't show me that
― What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 January 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
oh cool the first black character is a black republican
― max, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Jesus, I read that as "Danny Glover." Not beneath her. (xpost)
― SongOfSam, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
― max, Friday, January 11, 2013 12:14 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
twofer
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
yahtzee iirc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
NPR seems to have declared this Girls day, since every time I've gotten into my car that's the only thing that's being talked about.
― Solange and thanks for all the fish (Nicole), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
is it starting again or something, i feel like it just ended
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Friday, January 11, 2013 12:55 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh, nicely done
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
you know, this is going to be a weird complaint, but the more I think about it I am bothered by the VC douchebag character, because a show by and about born-rich girls chooses to make its (only?) self-made character an unsympathetic and unbelieveable cartoon of an asshole who does all kind of gauche things like get upset about his $10,000 rug. Not that there aren't guys like that in the world, it just kind of bothers me that so far people whose parents give them money are all wonderful, complex human beings and the guy who worked hard for it (albeit in a probably horrible way) is a two-dimensional moron.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
the thing is though, plenty of people who worked hard for their money are two-dimensional morons
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
tbf the trustafarians are not that complex, tho i havent seen the vc ep
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
hurting, does that really bother you? the complaint seems a bit reaching, imo.
― jed_, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I'm fine w anybody making fun of VC douchebags.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
"self-made" people can be really obnoxious because of their sense of desert, I worked really really really hard for this and that makes me better than you!
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link