Skyfall: Bond #23

man there really is just not a single thing in this movie that made sense

oh yeah i forgot about that dumbass crap

lol i never thought of that.

in Bondworld, youtube is free-speech-absolutist.

did anyone think of Julian Assange for a sec despite the prerelease PR btw

AllahuAkbarVEVO

Javier's hair did keep him in my mind

man there really is just not a single thing in this movie that made sense

― iatee, 12. december 2012 23:02 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I kind of like that. Who cares about plot in action films anyway? It's not a film riddled with plotholes, it's film where absolutely nothing makes sense, from the premise of a computer with all the agents names on it, to the end where the bad guy wins. I like it. The misogony is a bit more disturbing, though.

by taking itself so seriously, i kinda think it lost the right to skate over all the plot holes. and some shit was just so unnecessarily glaring that it just seemed stupid

i mean, i accept that there are three guys in the world who use a certain radioactive bullet and that bond will immediately discover the exact thing he needs upon entering any room, but was there really no other way for bardem to notice the escaping m than a flashlight?

I don't care so much about the minor plot holes, I care more about the big picture 'this doesn't really add up to a plot for a movie'

I kind of like that. Who cares about plot in action films anyway? It's not a film riddled with plotholes, it's film where absolutely nothing makes sense, from the premise of a computer with all the agents names on it, to the end where the bad guy wins. I like it. The misogony is a bit more disturbing, though.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:31 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

action movies are always more exciting when you actually care about whats happening

like obv bond can do superhuman things and bed any babe but nobody's motives/goals/decisions makes any sense on any level

xp

movie should have had bond get shot in pursuit of something other than the leaked data (but still related). then the whole movie could be about the establishment thinking it was the shot, awol, angry, over-the-hill bond behind the leaks. M doesn't want to believe it, moneypenny can't handle it. bond has to figure out who the f silva is and dodge his own people. might as well go whole bourne with it! you could even work in digging up all kinds of janky old spy tech from forgotten safe spots, not just the car.

boom, better movie. mendes eat it.

give this man an oscar

why not have him team up with jason bourne against a predalien who turns out to be margaret thatcher, the original "M"

http://www.moviesonline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/peter-lorre-m-1.jpg

Who cares about plot in action films anyway?

ade otm

I love how it was just youtube videos and youtube didn't take them down

Dumbest part of this was how the one video we showed announced that he'd be releasing another video every week or 10 days or w/e, but it was numbered 1/8, and 2/8, 3/8, 4/8 etc were all in the sidebar

not to mention by the time it was released youtube's new recommendation algorithm doesn't even show you the rest of a series in the sidebar, lol your movie is as out of date as your sexual politics, pwned

action movies are always more exciting when you actually care about whats happening

― turds (Hungry4Ass), 12. december 2012 23:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As long as the cinematography is as good as it was in large stretches of Skyfall, I'll care. Plotless setpieces sorta linked, that is the way to go. (I think my favorite contrivance is the assasin using rare radioactive bullets. Wtf? And they didn't check the bullets from the dead agents in Istanbul?)

Dumbest part of this was how the one video we showed announced that he'd be releasing another video every week or 10 days or w/e, but it was numbered 1/8, and 2/8, 3/8, 4/8 etc were all in the sidebar

― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:19 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

that drove me crazy too

what if he twittered all the names from @nathanbarley instead?

q was fuckin shit an all

movie should have had bond get shot in pursuit of something other than the leaked data (but still related). then the whole movie could be about the establishment thinking it was the shot, awol, angry, over-the-hill bond behind the leaks. M doesn't want to believe it, moneypenny can't handle it. bond has to figure out who the f silva is and dodge his own people. might as well go whole bourne with it! you could even work in digging up all kinds of janky old spy tech from forgotten safe spots, not just the car.

Fucking hell, that's a great movie.

Goole should've written the screenplay for this obv

Would screen.

I'm sure

Watch it, Iowa.

Seeing this again, made a point to really focus in cinematography. A couple shots reminded my of a more nuanced version of Christopher Doyle's work on The Limits of Control. Had a brief daydream of a Jarmusch 007 film.

The penultimate scene with bond on the roof had some amazing shifting between him and the flag.

a Jarmusch 007 film

lol

Exactly. I want to have this daydream.

http://i.imgur.com/Kswwb.jpg

uncanny

left: teletubby baby
right: idk, touch of warhol?

a more nuanced version of Christopher Doyle's work on The Limits of Control

kudos for bringing up a dreadful art film in this context.

also u guys watch 007 pulp much too closely

Did you like the cinematography on that one, though, Morbs? I thought it was a big obvious at most times but immaculate.

its hard to say "it's just a silly action movie, who cares about PLOT" when the movie takes itself soooo seriously

same thing with the dark knight rises

(more with the latter)

moore in the latter

would see a Nolan batfilm with Roger Moore as Wayne

regarding the "seriousness" of Skyfall, I wonder if it really is more than most of the previous ones (like the T. Dalton ones weren't exactly big fun !).

like the T. Dalton ones weren't exactly big fun

Er, Living Daylights has a chase scene with Bond riding a cello case as a sled, and a villain who kills people with explosive milk bottles.

ahah, oh yeah ? I don't remember any bond post Moore, I think ! (except the one with Denise Richard as a nuclear scientist).

its hard to say "it's just a silly action movie, who cares about PLOT" when the movie takes itself soooo seriously

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), 14. december 2012 07:54 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't get this? It might take itself seriously, but it doesn't care about it's plot... It cares about themes, characters and visual thrills, and it delivers on the last two things. Plot is a complete afterthought. Plot progression in Skyfall is Bond finding a chip from a casion -> cut to said casino...

'doesn't care about its plot' is not really a good excuse, I mean it has a plot, that came from somewhere, people spent millions of dollars making scene X or Y happen, why not spend 10 minutes figuring out a way to explain why scene X or Y is even happening. it doesn't have to be a *good* plot, and it definitely doesn't have to be a believable plot, it just has to be a sequence of events that have some reason to follow each other.

like 'oh man they were just too caught up in making a rad action movie' doesn't cut it, there are lots of rad action movies that have completely unbelievable plots, plot holes, deus ex machina whatever - but at least they contain sequences of events that make sense on a certain level, clear character motives etc.

whereas everything from bond finds casino chip to helicopters arrive at island just adds up to total nonsense

Bond is trying to meet her boss why because radio + gunships -> he convinces her that he can kill her boss -> she tells him about the ship going to meet her boss -> Bond arrives on the ship and basically gives himself up, possibly because fuck finding Silva in a place that size when he can be just taken to him, possibly because he is sure that he can escape why because Bond -> she has judged poorly.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:58 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what doesn't make sense is why bond doesn't kill silva at earliest opportunity (or vice versa)