all indie girls dance like ciara now anyway
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:41 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing i've heard this year that reminded me of Cocteaus = around half of the Sleigh Bells LP
I remember thinking of the Cocteaus -- or specifically, Liz's singing -- when I listened to the Poliça album. Not that the voice really sounded alike, but there was something similar in its use and treatment -- the multitracks with small variations / delayed entries / deviations, tiny flourishes at various points, etc.
I've only heard the album once, though, so pinch, salt etc.
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
NYT critics lists out
Jon Caramanica: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-caramanicas-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?smid=tw-nytimesmusic&seid=auto
Ben Ratliff: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/ben-ratliffs-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?smid=tw-nytimesmusic&seid=auto
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a big fan of the Beach House album, and while Cocteau Twins are definitely an influence on it, I hardly think BH is ripping them off, especially not with the vocals.
If Beach House sounds like anything really specific, it's probably The Motels "Suddenly Last Summer".
― Moodles, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
oh also Jon Pareles: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-pareless-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?_r=0
Nate Chinen: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/nate-chinens-top-10-albums-of-2012.html
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― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Times lists:
Caramanica: haven't heard any; would give Lee Brice a listen.Ratliff: have heard half (1,2,3,6,7,9); loved the Jeremy Pelt album, liked Nazoranai, was disappointed by the others (I saw Ravi Coltrane live this year and he was excellent - different band than either of the ones heard on the album, though).Pareles: have heard 3 (2,3,6); liked the Alabama Shakes record a lot, though at least one or two of the songs could really have used a horn section; thought the Dylan album was much weaker than the one before it, and can't even remember what the Fiona Apple album sounded like.Chinen: have heard 6 (1,2,3,6,8,9); lots of overlap with Ratliff's list and the ones that are unique to him, I didn't really like; I've heard much better Tim Berne albums than this year's. Gonna check out the Yosvany Terry album, though - I've heard three really good 2012 Criss Cross releases this month. They're a label that really needs a US publicist.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
emeli sandé is a curveball for anyone to put at number ONE
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Caramanica: haven't heard any; would give Lee Brice a listen.
thanks for the update, breh, we were on the edges of our seats
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Lee Brice's "Woman Like You" is one of my fav country singles of the year but it is howlingly cheesy, ilx would be repulsed by it
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
there really are some consensus rap records this year huh
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
the beauty of tokenism is that once there's one anointed masterpiece you don't even have to bother listening to any other icky rap albums
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
given that at least one publication ranks an ICP album as one of the 40 best hip-hop albums released this year, there may not be as many non-icky rap albums out there as your sarcasm implies
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
:)
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing i've heard this year that reminded me of Cocteaus = around half of the Sleigh Bells LPI remember thinking of the Cocteaus -- or specifically, Liz's singing -- when I listened to the Poliça album. Not that the voice really sounded alike, but there was something similar in its use and treatment -- the multitracks with small variations / delayed entries / deviations, tiny flourishes at various points, etc.I've only heard the album once, though, so pinch, salt etc.― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:41 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:41 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I guess I'm just getting ever so ever so tired of this singular aesthetic involving indistinct shoegazey/chillwavey sounds + dreamy detached female vocals that land somewhere on a grid between The Knife, Dirty Projectors, the XX, with an optional r'n'b "influence" thrown in for "variety". Obviously I do like a lot of these acts to differing extents, but there's such a glut of these that they all turn into one big Melody's Twinbeach Chairgang Polica Houselift, and I'm starting to feel significantly averse to stuff that sounds like this.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
there are many adjectives that come to mind when I think of the female vocals in The Knife and Dirty Projectors; "detached" and "dreamy" are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of that list if they are there at all, somewhere behind "jazzy" and "gospel-like"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
melody's echo chamber sounds literally nothing like the knife in any sense. or the xx for that matter. the knife and the xx sound nothing like each other!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
btw Whiney, I'm listening to The Mighty Death Pop thanks to that list and this is the first album they've put out in years that I've found even halfway reminiscent of The Ringmaster/Riddle Box, so lol/hat tip
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
thx man.
Everyone on ILX should listen to and love the song where they imagine going to the Gammies and killing Chris Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-_OFVFCjg
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Grammys
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
it would be totally in character for ICP to do a song about ambushing someone at their grandma's house so now I'm just thinking of missed opportunities
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
i can't be mad at that track ^^^^
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Doglatin it's New Year soon, you'd probably free up several weeks worth of productive time if you resolved to stop handwringing about spurious unifying musical trends that only exist in your imagination.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
lolwut sande #1
probably even more dimwitted than putting lauren halo there
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
there are many adjectives that come to mind when I think of the female vocals in The Knife and Dirty Projectors; "detached" and "dreamy" are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of that list if they are there at all, somewhere behind "jazzy" and "gospel-like"― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkmelody's echo chamber sounds literally nothing like the knife in any sense. or the xx for that matter. the knife and the xx sound nothing like each other!― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm only saying this triumvirate pretty much begat this now prevalent sound. No, MEC doesn't (literally!) sound exactly like any one particular of these earlier bands, but this kind of sound (washy guitars, reverby synths, glassy-eyed vocal delivery) has become pretty much its own genre at this point (post-chillwave if we have to call it anything I guess), it's just stopped being interesting to me.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ayYLdNSTzp8/UHT75TFVofI/AAAAAAAAAqc/Q5SSxhnM23E/s1600/homeland-carrie-marine-one.jpeg
― Tim F, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
Does anyone have a gif of Simon Reynolds in a Fisher Price car with the wheels coming off?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
surely a music writer whose top 2 were the actual best selling LPs of the year in UK and US respectively should just quit because their work is done.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
NYT lists are good for reminding me I want to get the Vijay Iyer and Ravi Coltrane albums, and that David Virelles one sounds promising too. (which is to say, useful for would-be jazzbos who don't pay much attention to jazz)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty Much Amazing's Best Songs of 2012http://prettymuchamazing.com/feature/best-songs-2012
25. DIIV “Doused”24. Santigold “Disparate Youth”23. Chairlift “I Belong In Your Arms”22. Jessie Ware – “Wildest Moments”21. Alabama Shakes “Hold On”20. Rhye “The Fall”19. Nicolas Jaar “And I Say/With Just One Glance”18. Jai Paul “Jasmine (Demo)”17. Icona Pop “I Love It”16. Chromatics “Back From The Grave”15. Bat For Lashes “Laura”14. A$AP Rocky “Goldie”13. Charli XCX “You’re The One”12. Japandroids “The House That Heaven Built”11. Purity Ring “Obedear”10. Spiritualized “Hey Jane”09. Grimes “Oblivion”08. Miguel “Adorn”07. El-P “$4Vic / FTL (Me and You)”06. Tame Imapala “Feels Like We Only Go Backwards”05. Kendrick Lamar “Sing About Me / I’m Dying of Thirst”04. Frank Ocean “Bad Religion”03. Beach House “Myth”02. Usher “Climax”01. Fiona Apple “Every Single Night”
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
the rest of the list:
AB-SOUL – Terrorist Threats (f. Danny Brown & Jhene Aiko)AIR – Sonic ArmadaALT-J – BreezeblocksALUNAGEORGE – Watching Over YouANDREW BIRD – EyeoneyeANIMAL COLLECTIVE – Rosie OhANIMAL COLLECTIVE – Wide EyedARIEL PINK’S HAUNTED GRAFFITI – Only In My DreamsAVA LUNA – Wrenning DayAZEALIA BANKS – LiquoriceBEAR IN HEAVEN – Sinful NatureBLOOD DIAMONDS – Phone Sex (f. Grimes)BURIAL – Ashtray WaspCARLY RAE JEPSEN – Call Me MaybeCHROMATICS – LadyCLOUD NOTHINGS – Stay UselessDAN DEACON – True ThrushDANIEL ROSSEN – Golden MileDANNY BROWN – Grown UpDEATH GRIPS – HackerDIRTY PROJECTORS – Gun Has No TriggerDR. DOG – LonesomeDUM DUM GIRLS – Lord KnowsEL-P – The Full RetardEVY JANE – SaysoFIONA APPLE – WerewolfFIONA APPLE – Anything We WantFIRST AID KIT – EmmylouFRANK OCEAN – PyramidsFRANKIE ROSE – InterstellarGOTYE – Somebody That I Used To KnowGRIMES – Nightmusic (f. Majical Clouds)GRIZZLY BEAR – Sleeping UteHAIM – Better OffHOT CHIP – FlutesHOW TO DRESS WELL – & It Was UJACK WHITE – Hypocritical KissJESSIE WARE – 110%JESSIE WARE – RunningJOHN TALABOT – Destiny feat. PionalGOOD MUSIC – MercyKENDRICK LAMAR – Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe (f. Lady Gaga)KENDRICK LAMAR – Swimming Pools (Drank)KILLER MIKE – ReaganKING KRULE – Rock BottomLAMBCHOP – Gone TomorrowLANA DEL REY – RideLIARS – No.1 Against the RushLOTUS PLAZA – StrangersM.I.A. – Bad GirlsTHE MAGNETIC FIELDS – Andrew in DragMAJOR LAZER – Get Free (f. Amber Coffman)THE MEN – CandyMS MR – HurricaneNICKI MINAJ – Beez In The Trap (f. 2 Chainz)NICOLAS JAAR – Don’t Break My LoveNIKI & THE DOVE – TomorrowPERFUME GENIUS – HoodPOLIÇA – Wandering StarPORCELAIN RAFT – Unless You Speak From Your HeartSCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS – The NightSCHOOLBOY Q – Hands On The Wheel (f. A$AP Rocky)SCREAMING FEMALES – ExpireSHARON VAN ETTEN – SerpentsTHE SHINS – Simple SongSKY FERREIRA – Everything Is EmbarrassingSLEIGH BELLS – DemonsSOLANGE – Losing YouTAKEN BY TREES – DreamsTHE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH – 1904TAME IMPALA – Apocalypse DreamsTAME IMPALA – Mind MischiefTHEESATISFACTION – QueenSTNGHT – Higher GroundTWIGS – AcheTHE WALKMEN – We Can’t Be BeatTHE WEEKND – ValerieWILLIS EARL BEAL – Evening’s KissTHE XX – ChainedYEASAYER – HenriettaZOLA JESUS – In Your Nature (David Lynch Remix)
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
SLEIGH BELLS – Demons
this song is so fucking badass but the real gem on that album is "Never Say Die"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
who?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
TAME IMAPALA haha
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp This non-jazzbo wholeheartedly endorses the Vijay Iyer album.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
SCHOOLBOY Q – Hands On The Wheel (f. A$AP Rocky)
love this
still can't work out why all the ilx goons hate it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
because you love it, mostly
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
that sample is unbearable & both those two guys are nothing rappers
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
for once in my life it's EOY lists validating me rather than ILX so i'm just gonna enjoy this novelty
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
i'm listening to "demons" now. it sounds like marnie stern with a corny NWOBHM riff on top of it, i don't know.
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
that's what Sleigh Bells sound like.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if you can't get down with the baseline conceit, it's kind of a lost cause
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
i actually like "hands on the wheel" too, sometimes nothing rappers are effective, and i think this is one example
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
i want to send you to rap boot camp
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
i run rap boot camp
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
we need to renovate rennavate
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
this is really the year of the black and white cover.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i've been ranting for a couple years now that in indie/hip/'acclaimed' circles half of all album covers are b&w. pulling up PF's recent best new music picks is grayscale city.
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
smog smog smog clouds on your city bitch
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
there are many adjectives that come to mind when I think of the female vocals in The Knife and Dirty Projectors; "detached" and "dreamy" are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of that list if they are there at all, somewhere behind "jazzy" and "gospel-like"― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkmelody's echo chamber sounds literally nothing like the knife in any sense. or the xx for that matter. the knife and the xx sound nothing like each other!― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI'm only saying this triumvirate pretty much begat this now prevalent sound. No, MEC doesn't (literally!) sound exactly like any one particular of these earlier bands, but this kind of sound (washy guitars, reverby synths, glassy-eyed vocal delivery) has become pretty much its own genre at this point (post-chillwave if we have to call it anything I guess), it's just stopped being interesting to me.― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:04 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:04 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not to belabor this point, but I really don't see where Dirty Projectors figure into this conversation. Yes, there are lots of bands doing washy guitars, reverby synths, and glassy-eyed vocal delivery right now, but they are surely not one of them.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
What does 'glassy-eyed vocal' mean?
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link