Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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<3 blackshaw

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

Blackshaw is the best, though I kind of think of him differently than these other dudes bcz he's British.

Liking this Daniel Bachman track I'm streaming from NPR.

doctor, doctor, give me the news (askance johnson), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, good interview with him yesterday on NPR's All Things Considered, playing and talking about Jack Rose. They also mentioned his Tiny Desk Concert (a series of short acoustic sets in a small space, prob suiting him better than, say, Gogol Bordello, although they coped, kind of). Was gonna say Blackshaw too, and dig the way his piano can sound like his guitar.
From a different direction, was just now immediately grabbed and held by the solo guitar on Ned Sublette's Kiss You Down South. Worked w Branca, Cage, Ashley, LaMonte Young etc., though mainly familiar to me via Willie Nelson's excellent cover of "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other", writing/producing for Afropop Worldwide, plus his intriguingly reviewed histories of Cuba and New Orleans. Willie and all the rest of that get smoked by his guitar, with nylon strings like steel springs, but only when necessary. I wanna say some it reminds me of the Latin American composer Augustin Barrios, as played by John Williams, though haven't heard that in a while. As I recall JW's renditions: gently fearless, lyrical acrobatics--although Sublette's got a rough, earthy emphasis too. Lyrics fit perfectly, even when they're occasionally too glib (and the meta "Flow" doesn't flow all that well, by his usual standards). Good strong, tuneful voice too, always. But dammm, that guitar. Goes electric on the last track, but def not new age, or noise age, for that matter. Nor is it too tasteful (likes his f-bombs, he does).

dow, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

And comparisons don't take me too far, because he just seems really inventive to me.

dow, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

new william tyler tune -- actually sounding pretty far afield from takoma-y stuff, but great -- http://www.spin.com/articles/hear-lambchop-guitarist-william-tylers-misty-cadillac-desert

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, that William Tyler song is great, definitely along the lines of what I want winter to sound like right now. Love the extra instrumentation.

Also, this is exactly the kind of stuff I want this thread to deliver, hope others agree. Fine with straight-up fingerpicking too.

grandavis, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

will check out that william tyler

btw when i started this i forgot that Paul Metzger is only a legendary musician in MInneapolis...basically, back in the 80s he was the head of TVBC...they were a post-punk band...but like imagine Metal Box era PIL used that as a basis for jazz improv type stuff...Freddy V0tel was the drummer, he later joined the Cows on Am Rep...

but now Metzger does stuff for "modified banjo" and acoustic (also TVBC still plays some)....some stuff is faheyesque, other stuff more indian type stuff, others kinda "crabwalk" eugene chadbourne type stuff...kinda depends on the show...but anyway he's a pretty amazing dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCu882dXXmc

http://paulmetzger.net/

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Have checked out Metzger before, but never seen him live. Think it is the type of thing that would be very cool in person, especially getting to see some of the modified instruments. Any records in particular that represent his stuff well?

grandavis, Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

a couple that are pretty good

http://roaratorio.com/15.html

http://roaratorio.com/14.html

that said, it's definitely nice to live in the same city because yeah i'm not sure you'll ever totally capture the live experience especially because it's usually a lot of improv, plus he does a lot of one-off lineups with other acoustic players...or jazz dudes...or noise rock guys etc

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

new william tyler album is magnificent -- only complaint is that it lacks a little "edge" or something, occasionally seems a little bit too pretty. But overall, really really good.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

some of it definitely has that jim o'rourke bad timing vibe, which is always a good thing.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Glad W. Tyler isn't making perfect albums quite yet, gives him room to grow. Dude is young, so hopefully he develops into some really interesting territory.

Thanks for the extra Metzger info, will try to delve a littel deeper. Cool he does a lot of mixing it up locally, and does a lot of improv.

grandavis, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah like honestly i'm not sure he would consider himself a folk artist really, he's kinda more on the art music scene but he definitely roots it in folk...and banjo has a certain folk quality you can't hide

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

just had a show with Bill Orcutt of Hairy Pussy that i really regret missing, i guess they were both in full on fahey worship mode

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Harry!
I saw Orcutt recently and he said "I'm trying to learn how to play songs"
It was charming.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

orcutt wins the "best song title" sweepstakes on the latest imaginational anthem -- "John Fahey Commemorative Beer Can"
i've never seen him live, but i've watched a few youtubes -- he really mangles that guitar.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

william tyler record does end with a feedback / drum machine freakout, so maybe it does have a little edge.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

tyler is the tyler streaming somewhere?

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Orcutt is kind of American Primitive Death Blues by way of Cecil Taylor

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp not that i know of, i just got sent the promo mp3s.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

#ballerstatus

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

#bragginboutmp3s

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

aquarium drunkard paying dividends? :)

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

thought that said 'american drunkyard' at first

✧ (am0n), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'm so well-respected in the blogging world these days that PR dudes are sending me PONO promos.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

fuuuuck dude, tell neil you need a prototype

honestly, i honestly want a PONO i hope it's not too much

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

even after reading neil's book, i don't even really understand what it's going to be -- an ipod? but different?

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

haha i haven't read the book

i mean i think there are hi-fi digital music players already on the market, but is PONO like a different music format (like distinct from WAV or FLAC or whatever lossless formats?)...i know there are sites that sell 24-bit digital audio files now....

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

...and thus we have proven that it's pretty much impossible for tyler and i to be on a thread for more than 20 post w/o talk turning to neil young

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

otherwise known as the pono conundrum

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

here's a guy that i found on spotify i know literally nothing about: Sean Smith (btw spotify is a little tricky because it's got his bio confused with a jazz bassist of the same name and spelling) anyone know this guy?

his s/t album from 2007 is pretty good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpy8cqFDH1Y

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 December 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

also skip ahead to the 9 minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThanInD0LBs

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

(more stefan grossman type stuff than fahey but goddamn how good is she??)

early stuff is kinda boring dude talking but as a mpls person did appreciate the Profane Existence mention

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 December 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ-xmJAFnqk

^ awesome

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 15 December 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

XD

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

dudes i was just checking out adrian legg albums on spotify :/

this stuff is a dangerous game

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

you want to play the game, you got to know the risks.
just saw this relevant mix by danny paul grody, who is on the latest imaginational anthem thang. grody!
http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=7754

tylerw, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

god i'm going to end up sad & alone with a pile of used michael hedges records.....

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Well now you've made me go youtube Adrian Legg performances. Slippery slope indeed.

grandavis, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

hey you're never alone when you have michael hedges records to keep you company

passion it person (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

I find Michael Hedges to be really terrible. The precursor to that slap and tap Andy McKee Youtube gibberish. I can't believe that the recent Fahey show uploaded to Youtube, the New Varsity series, were of him opening for Hedges. Slippery slope indeed.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

I bought this Alex De Grassi album for $1 because it was in mint condition and was only $1, but it's pretty good for light (not lite) guitar music. It took me forever to remember his name because all I could remember is what the cover looked like.

http://991.com/newGallery/Alex-DeGrassi-Turning-Turning-B-495700.jpg

passion it person (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

friend of mine put out this solo acoustic guitar CD a few years ago -
http://www.josephbrenna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/josephbrennacover.jpg
he's the one who hates fahey though! much more into things like Hedges. Though I think he's actually not that into acoustic guitar playing, really, this was more of a side-trip for him.
http://www.josephbrenna.com

tylerw, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

the exact point at which this stuff starts to sound like "healing music" is my tipping point

passion it person (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Tyler, thanks for that! I have now moved on form A. Legg to listening to D.P. Grody's album "In Search Of Light", which is really nice. Synth and acoustic guitars and a few other instruments so far. Nicely layered and detailed (lots of overdubs), but hitting the spot on a slow wintery Wednesday for sure. Can stream it on his bandcamp page.

grandavis, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

That was in response to that D.P. Grody mix of course

grandavis, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's pretty good. feel like it's 5-4-3-2-1 til some label is reissuing that great Cromarty record. [which, if you haven't heard it, is up for dl on root blog].

tylerw, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Can't really download right now. What's the Cromarty like? Straight solo fingerpicking stuff of songs?

grandavis, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

it's solo fingerpicking except for the last song (which has vocals). really pretty playing, probably closer to john renbourn than fahey.

tylerw, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

tracklisting for the latest imaginational anthem -- out feb. 17, compiled by Hayden Pedigo.

1.On a Slow Passing Through a Ghost Town-Chuck Johnson
2.Culverts-Sean Proper
3.Enchiridion-Norberto Lobo
4.Trees Return to Soil-Simon Scott
5.Sea Retreat-DBH
6.Araucaria-Jordan Norton
7.The Great North American Wilderness-Kyle Fosburgh
8.Something, or Oil Paintings-Christoph Bruhn
9.USA Self-Michael Vallera
10.Red Bud Valley-Dylan Golden Aycock
11.0/3-M.Mucci
12.Shadow Study at 6 am-Mariano Rodriguez
13.Olympic Peninsula Blues-Andrew Weathers
14.My Grandfather's 12 Gauge-Wes Tirey

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Oh cool Christoph is on it, nice dude

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah, some familiar names, some new names. guess simon scott is the dude from slowdive. here's his track: https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/trees-return-to-soil-by-simon-scott

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Aycock is an underrated dude and fans of Langhorne, Tuma, et al should definitely be checkin' him

Looking forward to hearing this.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

I think Aycock is my kind of guitarist, need to check more of that guys stuff. I have liked all that I have heard so far.

grandavis, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

oh shit and kyle fosburgh too and DBH!! ogmor i love DBH so much thanks for posting about them originally

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

Yeah this installment looks pretty solid across the board. May get this one, don't own any of these.

grandavis, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

dbh! looks like hayden p has done a v good job here plucking out some lesser known people

fans of banjo raga ala jean-paul pickens should check out this pedigo/fosburgh duet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgx0IesbrU4

ogmor, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09EjK2fOUk8

Neal Cassady, Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

we really need a new thread, I tried to open the whole thing just now (looking for mentions of Richard Dawson) and it crashed my computer

maybe encourage Youtube links on the next one?

(not a complaint, I love all these links)

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

ya i saw some folks mentioning that this thread is getting too big somewhere else. might be time!

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Agreed, like six months ago or so a new one was gonna be started, lets make it happen. Fresh new thread for 2015. This one was started exactly two years and three days ago, I'd say it's time!

Neal Cassady, Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

re: Richard Dawson, was gonna say that I hear a lot of Bill Orcutt's influence/style in his playing, anybody else? (sorry if this was noted previously)

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

I'm basically a tourist since I mostly just follow y'all's lead and I live in a region of the country where pretty much none of these musicians tour and I think my contributions are minimal but I think this is the single thread that has changed my music listening habits more than any other, it's endlessly valuable.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

yeah this thread is so good. but yeah, a 2015 fresh start is probably a good idea....

tylerw, Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

working on one right now!

clever thread title is escaping me

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

Revolt of the ILX Brigade Vol 2: The Dance Of The ILXors (New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads)

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

maybe not, too long, wanted to keep original search terms plus Fahey-related "Vol. 2" pun

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

heyo - http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2015/02/fahey-week-needs-your-help.html
Hello faithful Delta Slider readers. As you may know the annual Fahey week is approaching. Unfortunately I’m pretty much out of material and buried at work, in other words: I got nuthin’.

So…here’s the opportunity you’ve been looking for! If you’ve always wanted to post an essay about Fahey and his music, your guitar tab of his song, that rare bootleg that hasn’t been posted yet, etc. Then now is the time to contact me about it! If you send me ready to publish material I can post it and you get the byline.

I would love to continue the tradition but frankly I’ve been short on time and resources. Let’s see what happens!! Fahey Week traditionally starts February 22nd.

Use the contact form below or email me at the addy listed in the "About" page.

Thanks all,
Scott

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

oh durr this is the old thread!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

I'm basically blaming this thread for not alerting me to the gorgeous new Nathan Salsburg albums. Slowly letting volume 2 wash over me right now. It's sort of a homage to Leyland Kirby, using the ghosts of his vast collection of 78s as a bed for some very minimal guitar explorations. Flailing around for comparisons but in tone and emotional valence it has some similarities with Bruce Langhorne's Hired Hand.

Vinyl already sold out, natch.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 8 January 2021 09:11 (three years ago) link

Doh! Wrong thread! Only 5 years out...

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 8 January 2021 09:11 (three years ago) link


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