Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (3768 of them)

(btw global, yr in mpls i believe and soft abuse is local so this should be at roadrunner, treehouse, and probably hymies on vinyl)

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq-OwpIilAY

Have really enjoyed the couple of Dean McPhee albums I've got. British solo electric guitar guy who plays with a great deal of poise and a really nice tone.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Digging the Ulaan Markhor songs on the Soft Abuse soundcloud page right now. Steven R. Smith stuff is good to check out for fans of guitar in general (he records as Ulaan Markhor and a bunch of other names as well).

Nathan Bowles is great! He played in Kid Millions Man Forever group here in Virginia last year. His faces after about 25 minutes of straight single-stroke rolls were pretty amazing.

grandavis, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

That Dean McPhee is nice. I am a sucker for solo electric players right now too. Been going through a Loren M. Connors kick, so will check out more McPhee.

grandavis, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, McPhee reminds me of Connors a little bit, but he's not half as bluesy in feel nor as out-there emotionally as Loren.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

haven't heard bowles, will check him out.
i've been digging Yair Yona, he's got a bunch of stuff up for sampling on the free music archive: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yair_Yona/

tylerw, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

excellent thread, will bookmark, UMS remains a key ilm figure

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

do you folks fuck with william tyler? think he's got a new record coming out soon on merge? great guitarist.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

lol, i started this thread William Tyler
he's great, want to hear that live album that came w/ the imaginational anthem box set recently, this sample song is amaaaaaazing: https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/country-of-illusion-by-william

tylerw, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

yeah dig william tyler!
already got some new stuff i haven't heard to check out! thread is a success

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

dean mcphee is really beautiful stuff...thanks nickB, also glad you posted it despite the fact that i put "folk" in the title and this is electric, it totally fits in with the stuff like this i've been digging

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

C Joynes is a name I came on Honest Strings (the Jack Rose tribute, actually a really good resource for this thread I would say).
Listening to "Revenants, Prodigies, and the Restless Dead" right now and digging it.

Trip Maker, Monday, 10 December 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah that's a good one, forgot where I got a hold of it but have enjoyed a number of things I've heard from him.

Cian Nugent and Nick Schillace are definitely on my 'must listen' list.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 December 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

despite the fact that i put "folk" in the title and this is electric, it totally fits in with the stuff like this i've been digging

haha well fahey played electric too in his last phase don't forget... actually the only time i ever saw john fahey he played electric. anyhow glad you enjoyed it!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

huh i don't know much about later period fahey, but yeah "folk as dude with acoustic guitar" is horrible for ppl that like mumford & sons more than richard thompson

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeahhh, i was just watching this late period fahey show where he plays electric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCOQr7o8A4
i was digging it! i dunno, i feel like there is a fine line when some of these takoma guys play electric, like things get a little too ethereal, or it sounds like run-of-the-mill indie movie soundtrack fodder. but it can work! that mcphee thing sounds great.

tylerw, Monday, 10 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah shit that would be on this thread is always gonna be flirting with either new agey atmospherics or prairie home companion post-sellout kottke dorky stuff

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

holy crap, that line is so fine too -- at least i have confidence that you guys can hear the difference. it can't wrap itself up too quickly or too neatly.

bookmarking!

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

to be honest i still don't know how i feel about electric fahey. i appreciate him trying to do something new, but it never had quite the same resonance with me as his older stuff, it's didn't really got into my bones in the same way and i've never gone back and revisited it since. maybe i should...

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 10 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

great grammar nickb

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 10 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

ha! i mean, the electric fahey is more interesting to me than actually enjoyable at this point. but i do think it's *really* interesting.

tylerw, Monday, 10 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1S9mF8Ns5Q

am0n, Monday, 10 December 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVhC3yf9sE4

am0n, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

<3 blackshaw

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

Blackshaw is the best, though I kind of think of him differently than these other dudes bcz he's British.

Liking this Daniel Bachman track I'm streaming from NPR.

doctor, doctor, give me the news (askance johnson), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, good interview with him yesterday on NPR's All Things Considered, playing and talking about Jack Rose. They also mentioned his Tiny Desk Concert (a series of short acoustic sets in a small space, prob suiting him better than, say, Gogol Bordello, although they coped, kind of). Was gonna say Blackshaw too, and dig the way his piano can sound like his guitar.
From a different direction, was just now immediately grabbed and held by the solo guitar on Ned Sublette's Kiss You Down South. Worked w Branca, Cage, Ashley, LaMonte Young etc., though mainly familiar to me via Willie Nelson's excellent cover of "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other", writing/producing for Afropop Worldwide, plus his intriguingly reviewed histories of Cuba and New Orleans. Willie and all the rest of that get smoked by his guitar, with nylon strings like steel springs, but only when necessary. I wanna say some it reminds me of the Latin American composer Augustin Barrios, as played by John Williams, though haven't heard that in a while. As I recall JW's renditions: gently fearless, lyrical acrobatics--although Sublette's got a rough, earthy emphasis too. Lyrics fit perfectly, even when they're occasionally too glib (and the meta "Flow" doesn't flow all that well, by his usual standards). Good strong, tuneful voice too, always. But dammm, that guitar. Goes electric on the last track, but def not new age, or noise age, for that matter. Nor is it too tasteful (likes his f-bombs, he does).

dow, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

And comparisons don't take me too far, because he just seems really inventive to me.

dow, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

new william tyler tune -- actually sounding pretty far afield from takoma-y stuff, but great -- http://www.spin.com/articles/hear-lambchop-guitarist-william-tylers-misty-cadillac-desert

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, that William Tyler song is great, definitely along the lines of what I want winter to sound like right now. Love the extra instrumentation.

Also, this is exactly the kind of stuff I want this thread to deliver, hope others agree. Fine with straight-up fingerpicking too.

grandavis, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

will check out that william tyler

btw when i started this i forgot that Paul Metzger is only a legendary musician in MInneapolis...basically, back in the 80s he was the head of TVBC...they were a post-punk band...but like imagine Metal Box era PIL used that as a basis for jazz improv type stuff...Freddy V0tel was the drummer, he later joined the Cows on Am Rep...

but now Metzger does stuff for "modified banjo" and acoustic (also TVBC still plays some)....some stuff is faheyesque, other stuff more indian type stuff, others kinda "crabwalk" eugene chadbourne type stuff...kinda depends on the show...but anyway he's a pretty amazing dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCu882dXXmc

http://paulmetzger.net/

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Have checked out Metzger before, but never seen him live. Think it is the type of thing that would be very cool in person, especially getting to see some of the modified instruments. Any records in particular that represent his stuff well?

grandavis, Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

a couple that are pretty good

http://roaratorio.com/15.html

http://roaratorio.com/14.html

that said, it's definitely nice to live in the same city because yeah i'm not sure you'll ever totally capture the live experience especially because it's usually a lot of improv, plus he does a lot of one-off lineups with other acoustic players...or jazz dudes...or noise rock guys etc

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

new william tyler album is magnificent -- only complaint is that it lacks a little "edge" or something, occasionally seems a little bit too pretty. But overall, really really good.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

some of it definitely has that jim o'rourke bad timing vibe, which is always a good thing.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Glad W. Tyler isn't making perfect albums quite yet, gives him room to grow. Dude is young, so hopefully he develops into some really interesting territory.

Thanks for the extra Metzger info, will try to delve a littel deeper. Cool he does a lot of mixing it up locally, and does a lot of improv.

grandavis, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah like honestly i'm not sure he would consider himself a folk artist really, he's kinda more on the art music scene but he definitely roots it in folk...and banjo has a certain folk quality you can't hide

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

just had a show with Bill Orcutt of Hairy Pussy that i really regret missing, i guess they were both in full on fahey worship mode

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Harry!
I saw Orcutt recently and he said "I'm trying to learn how to play songs"
It was charming.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

orcutt wins the "best song title" sweepstakes on the latest imaginational anthem -- "John Fahey Commemorative Beer Can"
i've never seen him live, but i've watched a few youtubes -- he really mangles that guitar.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

william tyler record does end with a feedback / drum machine freakout, so maybe it does have a little edge.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

tyler is the tyler streaming somewhere?

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Orcutt is kind of American Primitive Death Blues by way of Cecil Taylor

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp not that i know of, i just got sent the promo mp3s.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

#ballerstatus

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

#bragginboutmp3s

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

aquarium drunkard paying dividends? :)

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

thought that said 'american drunkyard' at first

✧ (am0n), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'm so well-respected in the blogging world these days that PR dudes are sending me PONO promos.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

fuuuuck dude, tell neil you need a prototype

honestly, i honestly want a PONO i hope it's not too much

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

even after reading neil's book, i don't even really understand what it's going to be -- an ipod? but different?

tylerw, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

canned heat is pretty dope imo

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

don't be scared of 40-minute boogies!

tylerw, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

al wilson knew some music theory, studied blues vocal lines which is why his sound so good (imo), might have helped fahey with his patton book

ogmor, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

40-minute boogies rule, as does "Cathedrals et Chartres". About as mesmerizing as acoustic guitar playing can get.

grandavis, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

Also new James Blackshaw tune has been posted, with vocals etc. Seems like he has been listening to Jim O'Rourke?:

https://soundcloud.com/jamesblackshaw/confetti

grandavis, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

Haha wow. Yup.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

thanks, will ignore

sleeve, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link

Aw, well it's nice enough.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

sounds very nice, but yeah, if someone told me it was a eureka outtake i would believe it!

tylerw, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

Hey though grandavis- it then rolls into a track called "Holly" that you might like a little more?

It gets busy with a piano part in the latter half but it isn't that 12-string kind of busy overall (nylon string)

Maybe?

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

By the way, wow that Holly EP is gorgeous (both tracks). I NEED to pick that one up somewhere.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, don't wanna come across as being on some kind of anti-Blackshaw campaign. I think that basically he is pretty hit-and-miss with me. I like some of what I have heard but the more composed stuff (if that makes sense) doesn't seem to hit me as hard. Obviously I need to listen to more of his stuff to really see which way the wind blows, will check out the Holly stuff and see what's up.

grandavis, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

I am very pro-12-string by the way. It is a sound of beauty and should not be held accountable for any stuff I don't like from any particular player. If only I was good enough to play one well (or could get my hands to cooperate) I would consider switching to one full-time.

grandavis, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

I didn't mean to make you out as anti-12 string! I just let the soundcloud get to that other material and thought I'd recommend. And then it came to a track on "Love Is The Plan, The Plan Is Death" and I'm VERY in love with that. Been on a classical guitar kick which helps.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

listening to jack rose
this guys could really play i tell you what

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

New Tashi Dorji e.p. up, think it is just a bandcamp-only thing. All really short improvs, very Gastr del Sol-ish in a way, so maybe not up everyone's alley, but I am on board at this point fully. If that thing scares folks off, definitely listen to the last track "blue nest of larks that die", as it is a lovely and pretty straight piece. Definitely shows what this dude could pump out if he felt like playing it a little straighter:

https://tashidorji1.bandcamp.com/album/blue-nest-of-larks-that-die

grandavis, Monday, 8 December 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, this is maybe my favorite one yet. HUGE fan of this dude.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it is realy good. Gonna listen a few more times today.

grandavis, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

sorry if i missed the mention of this, but i didn't see it before:

http://mie.limitedrun.com/products/533563-mike-cara-gangloff-black-ribbon-of-death-silver-thread-of-life

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

hadn't seen that but sometimes there's too much to keep up with in this thread!

listening to the new nathan bowles again, this is really epic, man what a talent

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

That Mike & Cara Gangloff record is really good, but I am a total sucker for Mike's playing so take that with a grain of salt. Really deep tones though, fiddle and hurdy gurdy/sruti box etc. taken to beautiful places.

grandavis, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

i didn't like the vocal stuff as much, but some good moments. also picked up pelt's 'stone for angus maclise' and that scratched my drone itch, woww it gets deep

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I am a fan so this stull all scratches my itch, but can see where the vocals wouldn't work for everyone. Pelt is big touchstone for me for sure, and that one does indeed go deep.

grandavis, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

tracklisting for the latest imaginational anthem -- out feb. 17, compiled by Hayden Pedigo.

1.On a Slow Passing Through a Ghost Town-Chuck Johnson
2.Culverts-Sean Proper
3.Enchiridion-Norberto Lobo
4.Trees Return to Soil-Simon Scott
5.Sea Retreat-DBH
6.Araucaria-Jordan Norton
7.The Great North American Wilderness-Kyle Fosburgh
8.Something, or Oil Paintings-Christoph Bruhn
9.USA Self-Michael Vallera
10.Red Bud Valley-Dylan Golden Aycock
11.0/3-M.Mucci
12.Shadow Study at 6 am-Mariano Rodriguez
13.Olympic Peninsula Blues-Andrew Weathers
14.My Grandfather's 12 Gauge-Wes Tirey

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Oh cool Christoph is on it, nice dude

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah, some familiar names, some new names. guess simon scott is the dude from slowdive. here's his track: https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/trees-return-to-soil-by-simon-scott

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Aycock is an underrated dude and fans of Langhorne, Tuma, et al should definitely be checkin' him

Looking forward to hearing this.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

I think Aycock is my kind of guitarist, need to check more of that guys stuff. I have liked all that I have heard so far.

grandavis, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

oh shit and kyle fosburgh too and DBH!! ogmor i love DBH so much thanks for posting about them originally

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

Yeah this installment looks pretty solid across the board. May get this one, don't own any of these.

grandavis, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

dbh! looks like hayden p has done a v good job here plucking out some lesser known people

fans of banjo raga ala jean-paul pickens should check out this pedigo/fosburgh duet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgx0IesbrU4

ogmor, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09EjK2fOUk8

Neal Cassady, Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

we really need a new thread, I tried to open the whole thing just now (looking for mentions of Richard Dawson) and it crashed my computer

maybe encourage Youtube links on the next one?

(not a complaint, I love all these links)

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

ya i saw some folks mentioning that this thread is getting too big somewhere else. might be time!

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Agreed, like six months ago or so a new one was gonna be started, lets make it happen. Fresh new thread for 2015. This one was started exactly two years and three days ago, I'd say it's time!

Neal Cassady, Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

re: Richard Dawson, was gonna say that I hear a lot of Bill Orcutt's influence/style in his playing, anybody else? (sorry if this was noted previously)

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

I'm basically a tourist since I mostly just follow y'all's lead and I live in a region of the country where pretty much none of these musicians tour and I think my contributions are minimal but I think this is the single thread that has changed my music listening habits more than any other, it's endlessly valuable.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

yeah this thread is so good. but yeah, a 2015 fresh start is probably a good idea....

tylerw, Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

working on one right now!

clever thread title is escaping me

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

Revolt of the ILX Brigade Vol 2: The Dance Of The ILXors (New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads)

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

maybe not, too long, wanted to keep original search terms plus Fahey-related "Vol. 2" pun

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

heyo - http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2015/02/fahey-week-needs-your-help.html
Hello faithful Delta Slider readers. As you may know the annual Fahey week is approaching. Unfortunately I’m pretty much out of material and buried at work, in other words: I got nuthin’.

So…here’s the opportunity you’ve been looking for! If you’ve always wanted to post an essay about Fahey and his music, your guitar tab of his song, that rare bootleg that hasn’t been posted yet, etc. Then now is the time to contact me about it! If you send me ready to publish material I can post it and you get the byline.

I would love to continue the tradition but frankly I’ve been short on time and resources. Let’s see what happens!! Fahey Week traditionally starts February 22nd.

Use the contact form below or email me at the addy listed in the "About" page.

Thanks all,
Scott

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

oh durr this is the old thread!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

I'm basically blaming this thread for not alerting me to the gorgeous new Nathan Salsburg albums. Slowly letting volume 2 wash over me right now. It's sort of a homage to Leyland Kirby, using the ghosts of his vast collection of 78s as a bed for some very minimal guitar explorations. Flailing around for comparisons but in tone and emotional valence it has some similarities with Bruce Langhorne's Hired Hand.

Vinyl already sold out, natch.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 8 January 2021 09:11 (three years ago) link

Doh! Wrong thread! Only 5 years out...

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 8 January 2021 09:11 (three years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.