Getting to Know You : A Survey ......... (please contribute if you are as eager to talk about yourselves as I am to know about you all!)

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Name: Tim
Age: just weeks shy of 30
Height: 5'8"
Fav Band: always changing but The Fall is consistently near the top
Fav Movie: L'avventura
Fav TV Show: Chappelle's Show
Fav Book: way, way too hard; right now am reading "The Elegant Universe" and Michael Chabon's "Werewolves in Their Youth"
Fav Actor: Johnny Depp
Fav Actress: Joan Crawford
Fav Food: ahi tuna, anything grilled
Fav Sport: baseball
Fav Athlete: Manny Ramirez
Drink of Choice: Jameson & ginger
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Caffeine
Smoker? : No
Occupation : Newspaper reporter
Do you work out? : Not nearly as often as I should
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : eh
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : um

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: gygax!
Age: freshly 32
Height: 6'2"
Fav Band: boredoms (or drive like jehu)
Fav Movie: sans soleil
Fav TV Show: pardon the interuption
Fav Book: the sound and the fury
Fav Actor: christopher eigeman
Fav Actress:
Fav Food: okinawan
Fav Sport: baseball
Fav Athlete: barry bonds
Drink of Choice: orion beer
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): caffeine (alt: love)
Smoker? : no
Occupation : FASHIONY FASHION FASH, uh clothes
Do you work out? : i am an avid jogger i ran 5 miles last night against a ferocious headwind
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 6
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 8

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Henry
Age: 23
Height: Dunno, 5'10. Ish

Fav Band: Daft Punk

Fav Movie: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Trouble in Paradise, Fight Club, Chinatown, L'Eclisse, His Girl Friday, Zoolander, The Big Lebowski, The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser

Fav TV Show: S&TC, Sopranos, I'm Alan Partidge

Fav Book: Impossible question

Fav Actor: Alain Delon

Fav Actress: Anna Karina

Fav Food: Chinese

Fav Sport: None

Fav Athlete: None

Drink of Choice: red wine

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): not any more

Smoker? : until January

Occupation : this and that (literally)

Do you work out? : Cycle a bit

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 5

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : wtf, 5, I dunno

Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Michael White
Age: 36
Height: 6'2"

Fav Band: Luna

Fav Movie: Brazil

Fav TV Show: Six Feet Under

Fav Book: 'Fictions' by J.L. Borges

Fav Actor: Herbert Marshall

Fav Actress: Jeanne Moreau

Fav Food: French

Fav Sport: Futbol

Fav Athlete: Harry the Horny Hunter

Drink of Choice: Wine or Gin & Tonics

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait.

Smoker? : Avid

Occupation : Office Drone

Do you work out? : I jump to conclusions and run off at the mouth.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 6

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : With a personalitometer, naturally.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Nick

Age: 28

Height: 6'3"

Fav Band: Zep

Fav Movie: Goodfellas

Fav TV Show: Sopranos

Fav Book: For Whom the Bell Tolls

Fav Actor: Pacino

Fav Actress: ?

Fav Food: Fried Chicken

Fav Sport: Baseball

Fav Athlete: Don Mattingly

Drink of Choice: Duvel

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Maryjane

Smoker? : 1 per day

Occupation : Computers

Do you work out? : Weightlifting

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 5

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : ?

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Name: Akira Konya
Age: 17
Height: 6'0"

Fav Band: A bizzare mix of metal, punk and 1930s jazz (Rammstein, Green Day, Ramones, Foreigner, GWAR, Weezer, Chicago Rhythm Kings, Orbert Davis Sextet, and Sharkey Bonano.)

Fav Movie: Once Upon a Time in America

Fav TV Show: The Simpsons, Seinfeld, Mr. Show with Bob & David

Fav Book: Wiseguy (Basis for the film Goodfellas)

Fav Actor: Robert DeNiro

Fav Actress: Anyone who gets naked... huh huh... cool...

Fav Food: Anything Chinese

Fav Sport: Stalking people at night

Fav Athlete: I hate sports.

Drink of Choice: Baileys Irish Cream

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Marijuana... But dont tell my mommy and daddy.

Smoker? :Yes (7 a day)

Occupation : Manufacturer of small automotive parts (Clips, latches, etc.)

Do you work out? : 20 push ups a day

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? :8

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : -4


Add anything you want people to know: I hate President Bush. I think gay people should be allowed to get married and fuck all they want. I am taking Auto Collision Repair at the local Vocational School. I hate cowboys, skaters, preps, and posers. I never wear jeans. Ever. I dont even own a pair of jeans. I hate a lot of people. I like to smoke Parliament Cigarettes and Garcia Y Vega Cigars. I want my licence really bad, but my parents wont let me because of ONE F on my grade card a year ago. Bullshit. I really want to be out on my own, i dont care how much it costs. I love them and all, but come on... No girls like me. Probably because I'm so negative and I'm Japanese.. By the way, I hate racists. I'm full of hate for all kinds of people.

Akira Konya, Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you wear other kinds of pants?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't own any jeans either. 7 cigarettes a day? That's kind of precise. Were you on 8 and decided to cut back?

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

ENLIST IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE

TOMBOT, Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Wayne
Age: 21
Height: 6'0"

Fav Band: Varies

Fav Movie: Gattaca

Fav TV Show: I don't have a tele

Fav Book: The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky

Fav Actor: either Christopher Walken or Steve Buschemi

Fav Actress: whichever hot bitches takes her clothes off

Fav Food: pizza/tuna sammiches/schnitzel

Fav Sport: badminton

Fav Athlete: they're all buncha weenies

Drink of Choice: Brandy (at least VSOP)

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): EPHEDRA

Smoker?: Sometimes

Occupation : student ... at least until May.

Do you work out? : that depends on if you count masturbation ...

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : OH I'M DROP-DEAD SEXXXY, BABUH

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : Parents love me! Kids cry when I'm around! Teenage girls want me in their beds! The 'scene' wherever I go thinks I'm a wacky but fun outsider!


Add anything you want people to know:
Public Transit 4-eva

trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I never did this!

Name: Orbit (Chelsea)
Age: 40
Height: 5'8

Fav Band: That's hard. The Clash, Blondie, The Charlatans a million others

Fav Movie: Casablanca

Fav TV Show: Sex and the City and Rockford Files re-runs

Fav Book: Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco

Fav Actor: Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant

Fav Actress: Doris Day! (perky perky!)

Fav Food: oh geez! Lamb, bastillah, foie gras in context....

Fav Sport: Hockey and baseball

Fav Athlete: I used to like Luc Robataille but now I don't really have one.

Drink of Choice: WINE!!!

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Context-dependent.

Smoker? : No.

Occupation : Consultant

Do you work out? : NO. I am a flab monster.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 7. (10 if you like pudgy cheerful brunettes.)

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : You either like me or you hate me.


Add anything you want people to know:
I am a collosal feminine failure. I need liposuction, botox, collagen, breast implants or reduction, a wax job, unassertiveness training, cash, and a future. I desperately need to avoid signs of aging, feminine odor, dry eye, dishpan hands and spots on the china, can you help me?

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: maria tessa sciarrino
Age: 26
Height: 5'5"

Fav Band: pavement

Fav Movie: spaceballs

Fav TV Show: all of them

Fav Book: shampoo planet, douglas coupland

Fav Actor:

Fav Actress:

Fav Food: pizza

Fav Sport: figure skating [i used to skate competitively] or ice hockey

Fav Athlete:

Drink of Choice: tomato juice with lemon / cosmopolitan

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): ew, gross!

Smoker? : ew, gross!

Occupation : paying gig: assistant to the director, kelly writers house, university of pennsylvania; non-paying gig: promoter, plain parade

Do you work out? : 3 times a week, plus i ride my bike all over this city. doesnt help, since im borne into a family of fat people.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 6, if im wearing my nice clothes: 7

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 5


Add anything you want people to know: im allergic to seafood and shellfish. i dont like mayonnaise. doritos and peanut butter cups are my downfall.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Remy C00mb5
Age: 24
Height: 6'0"

Fav Band: XTC, Cure, Blackalicious, Wu Tang Clan, T. Rex, Mott the Hoople

Fav Movie: Five Easy Pieces

Fav TV Show: Freaks and Geeks

Fav Book: Goodbye to Berlin

Fav Actor: Burt Reynolds

Fav Actress: Bette Davis

Fav Food: Homemade bread

Fav Sport: Swimming

Fav Athlete: Fuckin' ... Mo Vaughn back in the day.

Drink of Choice: Belgian Ale

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Dope

Smoker? : Recovering, but occasionally relapsing.

Occupation : Screenwriter / Grad Student

Do you work out? : Daily.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : ihttp://img68.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jcoombs/?

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? :
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Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Err,

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jcoombs/Picture5.jpg

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Adam
Age: 30
Height: 5'11"

Fav Band: XTC

Fav Movie: Brazil

Fav TV Show: Goodies

Fav Book: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

Fav Actor: n/a

Fav Actress: n/a

Fav Food: chocolate

Fav Sport: cricket

Fav Athlete: n/a

Drink of Choice: ouzo & coke

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): alcohol

Smoker? : no

Occupation : IT

Do you work out? : yes

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : i wouldn't

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : yes

Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i never knew you liked cricked adam!

bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Then this thread has justified its existence.

Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I never knew you liked ouzo either, ew. You're so dropped.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Never filled this in before.

Name: Andrew
Age: 21
Height: 184cm

Fav Band: WHAT?! Impossible to answer.

Fav Movie: The Blues Brothers

Fav TV Show: Family Guy (Comedy), Six Feet Under/Twin Peaks (Drama)

Fav Book: A Scanner Darkly by Phillip K Dick

Fav Actor: Edward Norton

Fav Actress: Franka Potente or Audrey Tautou

Fav Food: I've no idea.

Fav Sport: No sport for me!

Fav Athlete: I don't care enough to have a favourite. Does Anna Kournikova count?

Drink of Choice: Vodka Tonic

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Weed, although I like it a lot less these days.

Smoker? : Not when I can help it.

Occupation : Software Developer

Do you work out? : Just started - let's see how long it lasts.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : I prefer to let other people do this for me. I'm not that egomaniacal.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 4

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Trayce: Bahahaha.

Nobody fucking stocks ouzo anymore. Now I have to give it up for the same reason I stopped drinking Pernod in the '90s.

Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Because it's fucking nasty?

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I want to get hooked on Goldshlager. The idea of cinnamon schnapps with fecking GOLD in it floats my boat somehow. Also, its impossible to find here.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never filled this in either.

Name: Kenan
Age: 30
Height: 5'11"

Fav Band: fuck you very much for asking

Fav Movie: hmmm... maybe Goodfellas?

Fav TV Show: easily The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

Fav Book: hmmm... maybe Lolita? (BTW... I hate the way "lolita" has come to mean an innocent young girl. People should read more.)

Fav Actor: Dirk Bogarde, or maybe the young David Hemmings

Fav Actress: Ingrid Bergman, Faye Dunaway, maybe Nathan Lane

Fav Food: ass falafel

Fav Sport: baseball, by a wide margin

Fav Athlete: Freddy Roach

Drink of Choice: bourbon

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): pot, if that's my thing at the moment

Smoker?: sadly, yes. I don't apologize in font of people, but I will here.

Occupation: butt-monkey for people who make a lot more money then me

Do you work out?: No. I should, but then again, I shouldn't. I want to look good and be healthy, but I don't want to be vain. (too late.)

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks?: Zero. I am a horribly disfigured monster.*

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality?: I can't rate it on a scale, but I can say that some people find me charming, some find me charming enough, some find me a bit cloying, and some find me completely disingenuous and distasteful. These reactions, if charted, would almost certainly directly relate to the degree of discomfort I felt around that person.

Add anything you want people to know: I'm a really good kisser.


*This answer given on the assumption that false humility makes you more attractive.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I never saw this thread either.

Name: Barry
Age: 30
Height: 6'3"

Fav Band: Too many to mention, Google my name on ILM and you'll be spoilt for choice

Fav Movie: I am not a movie person.

Fav TV Show: The Apprentice, WWE RAW, ER (I am not really a TV person either, I watch TV less out of love and more out of habit)

Fav Book: V/A -- All Music Guide to Electronica, Walter Koechner -- Solid State Laser Engineering, Werterbukh English-Yidish Yidish-English Modern -- Weinreich Uriel

Fav Actor: Chris Jericho

Fav Actress: can't pick

Fav Food: beer

Fav Sport: baseball

Fav Athlete: can't choose

Drink of Choice: rye and ginger

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): music

Smoker? : no

Occupation : student

Do you work out? : I'm in shape.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 2 if you hate long hair, 8 if you like long hair

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 2 if I'm in a good mood, 8 if I'm in a bad mood

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link

some people find me charming, some find me charming enough, some find me a bit cloying, and some find me completely disingenuous and distasteful. These reactions, if charted, would almost certainly directly relate to the degree of discomfort I felt around that person.

You've got me pretty-much spot on there.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link

wow this is an oldie but goodie. I'm positive I've done it more than once but I'm going to do it again and go back to compare. Growth is fun.

Name: Samantha
Age:30
Height: 5'4"

Fav Band: this year - the Riverboat (motherfucking) Gamblers, best rock band evah! ; elliott smith ; Slick 57 and still on top for 19 years running. . . .the Beastie Boys!!! yay! What's 2400 miles when it's for guys you love?

Fav Movie: Giant (1956)

Fav TV Show: Don't have TV anymore but when I did I was into Law&Order (svu please) like it was a bag of potato chips.

Fav Book: Jane Eyre, Charlotte Bronte. Read it at least once a year.

Fav Actor: Jake Gyllenhaal. Come sit in mommy's lap.

Fav Actress: I liked his sister when she was getting her ass spanked but let's see. . . Christina Ricci continues to surprise me.

Fav Food: currently Paydays. Overall, whatever's easy.

Fav Sport: skateboarding

Fav Athlete: who to choose, who to choose, Bucky and Bam

Drink of Choice: water, especially Evian. Sonic slushes aren't bad either.

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Wellbutrin has done me well over the years in a plodding, loyal dog kind of way. Fancy a bit of Xanax when I'm feeling nervous.

Smoker? : nope. Have you heard that shit gives you cancer?

Occupation : secondary English teacher

Do you work out? : unfortunately no. I do walk about half a mile each day at school and must sometimes walk when using the bus. Thankfully my rainbow of prescribed pills keep me generally thin.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 7. when in stockings and tall boots, straight devestating.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : hmm, hard to say. Depends on how well you like fast-talking, strong-headed, too honest, bipolar bitches. Personally I'd say about a 6.


Add anything you want people to know: I'm currently eating from a bag of inside-out Reeses. Excellent. I choose to live in poor, non-white, "dangerous" neighborhoods and would do so even if I became suddenly wealthy. I have a beastie boys and an elliott smith tattoo. My brother's a rapper who's recently begun performing in Europe. If you're German, you might have saw him on MTV last month.

enough. night night.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, Kenan. I thought the adopted use of "Lolita" implied a seductive young woman. (seductive as in "she's asking for it." bullshit, obv.) My rememberence of the book was that she was not written in a way to encourage the reader holding her responsible for abuse and that it did quite harm her.

Also, was I the first person here to declare you an asshole? You were far less-assholish in person so I've gathered it's just a Web thang.

sorry, hijack

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link

You're right, Sam, but you're wrong to imply that I though that Lolita was responsible for her won exploitation. Humbert = monster, plain and simple. But weak and wrong in so many humorous and nearly understandable ways. That's why the book is one of my favorites, actually -- it's so much more complicated than any simple morality.

What I meant was, I've heard "lolita" used to describe young girls in many contexts, none of them true to the book's intention. The book's intention, as I read it, was that she was a young girl who aspired to dirtiness but had no idea what it meant. This certainly makes no less a monster of Humbert, who is IMO one of the greatest villians of literature, but it makes Lolita no more "innocent." So you have the dirty little girl and the exploitative old man. To cast Lol as a complete innocent is not.. right. Not getting it. Not getting the give and take that makes the book so interesting. Of course Humbert is an awful man, but throwing the word "lolita" around as if it has an unsubtle definition hurts the work of art that Lolita is. It doesn't get it.

Anyway.

Sam, has anyone already expressed the degree to which we're all happy you're back? I don't want to bandwagon or anything, but it's really nice to see you.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, Kenan. I think Nabokov wants us to sympathise with Humbert, and that (at least in my reading) he responds to her come-ons... she's party to her own exploitation; albeit as a naiive and playing-with-fire type. Nabokov is the type of author who loved to make his readership feel dirty, exploitative, and identify with a pederast before an abused child.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Wrong.

albeit as a naiive and playing-with-fire type

Makes all the difference, don't it? If you didn't read that book and think that Humbert was an awful man, however charming, there's something wrong with you, and I'm sure Nabokov would agree.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, it's all laid out there in the end, isn't it? When Quilty reads him his own poem and mocks him all through it? Brilliant, so brilliant.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"Because you took advantage of a sinner
because you took advantage
because you took
because you took advantage of my disadvantage
when I stood Adam-naked
before a federal law and all its stinging stars

Because you took advantage of a sin
when I was helpless moultng moist and tender
hoping for the best
dreaming of marriage in a mountain state
aye of a litter of Lolitas

Because you took advantage of my inner
essential innocence
because you cheated me--

Because you cheated me of my redemption
because you took
her at the age when lads
play with erector sets
a little downy girl still wearing poppies
still eating popcorn in the colored gloam
where tawny Indians took paid croppers
because you stole her
from her wax-browed and dignified protector
spitting into his heavy-lidded eye
ripping his flavid toga and at dawn
leaving the hog to roll upon his new discomfort
the awfulness of love and violets
remorse despair while you
took a dull doll to pieces
and threw its head away
because of all you did
because of all I did not
you have to die"

Read together the first and last lines. The rest is tapdancing.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, I get it. I'm not just wandering into this argument, Kenan -- I think Nabokov's genius in this book is twisting a traditional innocent (Lolita) into a monster by way of her dramatic introduction, and a traditional monster (Humbert) into an innocent-by-way of the dramatic resolution.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:34 (nineteen years ago) link

No no no! UNRELIABLE NARRATOR ALERT! Humbert is not meant to be an innocent at any point in the book. Um... did you think he was an innocent when he fantasized for 20 pages about killing his wife? His wife that he married just so he could have sex with a minor? If you were so charmed by his language that you missed all that, I'm afraid of you.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(you must know, I don't mean that I'm really afraid of you. Pure ad hominem.)

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Nabokov was a pedophile, Kenan. Sorry to rain on your parade.

From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link

(He was quite notorious in literary circles for checking into motels with underage girls)

From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't see how that changes the moral of the book at all. If Nabokov was a pedophile, he cartainly wasn't setting out to excuse himself with this book. If he was a pedophile, Lolita is some very acidic self-hatred.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

we ('we' as readership, not royalty) recognize humbert is a monster, a pederast, murderer, and masterful manipulator. but strictly in the context of the book he's not just protagonist, he's an honest-to-goodness narative hero. and while we (again, 'readership we') recognize lolita as utterly victimized from our own a priori understanding of molestation, in the book she's (because of nabokov's willful subersion of the moralistic narratological paradigm) she's presented a willing participant.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link

let's move this to another thread?

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that's probably exactly what it was. Authors exorcise their demons in their work all the time. See Burroughs, another pedophile.
x-post

From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

we ('we' as readership, not royalty) recognize humbert is a monster, a pederast, murderer, and masterful manipulator. but strictly in the context of the book he's not just protagonist, he's an honest-to-goodness narative hero. and while we (again, 'readership we') recognize lolita as utterly victimized from our own a priori understanding of molestation, in the book she's (because of nabokov's willful subersion of the moralistic narratological paradigm) she's presented a willing participant.

How could Nabokov done that accidentally, though? How can you read that from even the subtext of a book and not understand that it's the whole point?

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

how is humbert humbert a monster?

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Name: Katherine
Age: 25
Height: 174cm

Fav Band: Couldn't say.

Fav Movie: Prob. Crooklyn or something.

Fav TV Show: Mr. Show (I know, I know, it's not on anymore)

Fav Book: Hebrew-English/English-Hebrew Dictionary

Fav Actor: Ronnie Burkett

Fav Actress: No idea

Fav Food: Thai (anything hot sweet and sour)

Fav Sport: Sitting on my arse

Fav Athlete: None.

Drink of Choice: Mohito

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): extacy

Smoker? : Occasionally

Occupation : Student

Do you work out? : I go to gym every day of the working week.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 4

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 2

papa november (papa november), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

papa november is a girl? I love her.

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm i thought you were a fella too papa november! dunno why

Name: Gemma
Age: 28
Height: 5'4" (i think)

Fav Band: too many

Fav Movie: i have a lot, i guess maybe cinema paradiso, city of the lost children and metropolis are pretty important ones though.

Fav TV Show: lateline. and i used to love the fast show when it was on. and blackadder.

Fav Book: too many too. but definitely heroes and villains by angela carter; perfume by patrick suskind; the outsider by albert camus

Fav Actor: i don't really have one

Fav Actress: ummm audrey tautou, audrey hepburn, frances mcdormand

Fav Food: roast lamb/japanese/thai

Fav Sport: i don't play or follow any sport

Fav Athlete: *shrug*

Drink of Choice: vodka and soda.

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): i like recreational drugs although i rarely use them these days. no pot anymore.

Smoker? : reformed.

Occupation : policy writer/law student

Do you work out? : no. but i go to the beach most days for a walk and do yoga.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : about the middle. probably a 6.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : same same as for looks.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Half of these answers are from when i was 19 because the answers to them have been of no interest to me since then.

Name: bulbous
Age: 42
Height: 5'11"

Fav Band: 23 skidoo

Fav Movie: taxi driver

Fav TV Show: iron chef

Fav Book: the erl king

Fav Actor: dirk bogarde

Fav Actress: molly ringwald

Fav Food: masala paneer or rocket dhosa

Fav Sport: soccer

Fav Athlete:

Drink of Choice: pleb beer

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): acid

Smoker? : vaguely

Occupation : information management

Do you work out? : no

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 6

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : erratic

bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link

hi gem! that filled in a few blanks. there should be a question about which pastry your arse is like though!

;-)

bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i'm going to have to give it some consideration and get back to you on that one.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link

RECOUNT!

Half of these answers are from when i was 19 because the answers to them have been of no interest to me since then.

This is great, and truer for me than I was willing to admit before. Thanks, bulbs, for breaking the barrier.

Fav Band: If I said the Mile Davis Quartet in 1958, you'd think I was a pretentious asshole, wouldn't you? I can't win.

Fav Movie: If I cited something from Bergman, you'd think I was a pretentious asshole and a tremendous downer, wouldn't you? I can't win.

Fav TV Show: If I said that I wouldn't watch TV at all ever if I wasn't otherwise forced to, you'd think I was a pretentious asshole, wouldn't you? I can't win.

Fav Book: If I said that I don't actually read much fiction anymore, you'd think... I don't know what you'd think. I don't care much, either. The best books I've ever read and that I continue to read do not have plots, themes, or characters, except for the naturally occurring ones. My favorite books are good journalism.

Fav Actor / Fav Actress: same as before.

Fav Food: pie

Fav Sport: fucking

Fav Athlete: me, while fucking

Drink of Choice: same as before

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks?: 7

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality?: 7

Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link


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