wait, so now we're not even acknowledging that Frank Ocean/Miguel et al are even different from other R&B? Come on
Not radically so? No more so than some of the other names discussed? Idiosyncrasy and distinctiveness comes in many forms, not just the self-conscious and heavy-handed? But in any case I'm fucking sick of r+b getting praised because it's so fucking ~different~ to other r+b
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
In more "site throws up list" news, Drowned in Sound have revealed their 100-6:
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145819-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--100-51http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145822-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--50-26http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145829-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--25-6
Nice to see a placing for the "Lee Ronaldo" album.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not the hugest dawn fan BUT she is doing something that is unique AND very in vogue right now & i think if she was a mysterious dude with a cool tumblr presence & slick marketing scheme instead of an ex-girl group singer that her music would be a very big deal right now
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
I hear Solange and Dawn Richard essaying the same kind of ethereal melancholy.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer Lee Ronaldinho.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
this is kinda interesting to me cuz ime dawn richard (and d-dm) are probably the hippest r+b artists mentioned so far itt
― f (Lamp), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
apparently Killer Mike made the album I was hoping Big Boi would make this year
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:09 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark
http://i.pinger.pl/pgr288/bd175d5900092daa5012d83c
― r|t|c, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/trend-of-the-year-alt-rb-2012-frank-ocean-weeknd-miguel
feel like we're just now turning up itt
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Fucking hell DiS even the NME isn't desperate enough to throw a sympathy rep to 2012 Bloc Party.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
#turnup
rlly looking forward to andy k & rtc ilx reaction posts
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
I've seen references to "this Lone album" and "that Lone album," but not in any of the lists. Does it have a title?
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
steve
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
it's "galaxy garden" fastnbulb
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
I really slept on this Nikkiya record then, mostly because Speak Her Sex was my least favourite think on Trunk Musik. It's really distinctive as well, who else is doing those orchestral soundtracky cut-ups?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
xp: Here's a Spotify link: http://open.spotify.com/album/7fuV2dWa1XwIqAxYaMwc4I
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Do How to Dress Well and Santigold get more mentions than Georgia Anne Muldrow and THEESatisfaction? If so, probably won't bother to read it.
― Andy K, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
omg Santigold did actually get namechecked
lolololololololol
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
i need to check out that whole theesatisfaction record
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Idolator:
http://idolator.com/7316212/best-albums-2012-year
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
keeps crashing my browser or else i would tell you what was in it
i will say that he's not really exaggerating the crowd anticipation/reaction to frank's set at lolla
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
as andy feared its a v v myopic view of basically R&B as a genre since the 80s
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
immaCommented on this photo:
Fiona Aplle it’s the only good artist on your list! the rest SUCK
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Ok I didn't expect to see Loreen there.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
"It's one of the most consistent and listenable albums of 2012" is very faint praise for your number one album of the year
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Idolator top 10:
1. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream2. Taylor Swift - Red3. Jessie Ware - Devotioin4. Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE5. Loreen - Heal6. Bright Light Bright Light - Make Me Believe In Love7. Beach House - Blom8. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city9. Carly Rae Jepsen - Kiss10. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
blom
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
the Lee Gamble album on the main Wire list is pretty cool. Collages of ambient breakdowns from mid 90s jungle tunes.
― brimstead, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
listening to Bright Light Bright Light right now and between this dude and Owl City, The Postal Service has so much to answer for
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
there's a Bright Light Bright Light now?
― crüt, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
how does Bright Light Bright Light compare to Lights and Pretty Lights, or Ellie Goulding's "Lights"?
― crüt, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
All of the lights.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
ah yes that's the other one
― crüt, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
There's also Brightblack Morning Light, who I think are supposed to be quite good? But I can't remember what they even sound like.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
it bears mentioning that the gender balance on R&B radio is very male these days -- Trey Songz/Chris Brown/Usher/Miguel/etc. all commanding much more of the airwaves than pretty much any woman besides arguably Beyonce
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of u guys are being hella defensive. idgaf what R&B you like or dont, but surely you recognize that there is this thing called "cool," and some very good music is not very cool, and is overlooked because of it
― D-40, Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think the topic of the shifting nature of cool is an interesting one right now and demands a degree of nuance and flexibility that is impossible when the H word flattens everything into a mush of received opinion
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
the H word
hella?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
can't believe i missed d-40 talking about hipsters for 80 posts today
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
you got me feelin hipster good so let's just keep on dancin
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
xp The discussion on what defines "hipsters" and "cool" is tempting, but kind of a black hole I don't have time to dive into. I'll just say that Cody ChesnuTT doesn't seem to be considered cool or hip in most peoples' eyes, but I'm not gonna bitch about it ;) Dorky prog isn't cool but someday maybe!
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
cody chesnutt is a good example of a great R&B record this year that hipsters aint fuckin w/
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
whoa, thx for the warning, i will avoid wasting my time on Bright Light Bright Light.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
well also the chessnutt record is pretty boring, dope singles tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters used to like Cody Chesnutt though right? I'm confused
― Number None, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Cody Chesnutt is considered un-friendly to "hipsters" but honestly I didn't know he released a 2012 record until just now. People who remember him from 10 years ago would probably be happy to hear whatever he's been up to.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Cody Chesnutt is considered un-friendly to "hipsters" but honestly I didn't know he released a 2012 record until just now.
question asked, question answered
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Cody ChestnuTT became cool the same year as Interpol, what happened
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link