What about Neil?
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
I heard his horse went crazy
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
standing by the Green Day shitshow is more embarrassing than all the senior citizens on that list combined
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
did they pick just one album for the list or all 3?
Think it's just the first one
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
xpost It's not picking a Springsteen album that's the problem. It's that it's not all that great a Springsteen album.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
xp Depends on whether or not you think this is a great Springsteen album.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
are you kidding, of course it isn't!
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
That's my point, though Whiney seems to think otherwise.
For me "pandering" is the difference between RS/Uncut recognising a veteran at his late-period best and just honouring him because he's a veteran.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Okay it is just ¡Uno! according to some Green Day forum
Someone had the full list there btw
1. Wrecking Ball - Bruce Springsteen2. Channel Orange - Frank Ocean3. Blunderbuss - Jack White4. Tempest - Bob Dylan5. The Idler Wheel... - Fiona Apple6. good kid, m.A.A.d city - Kendrick Lamar7. Here - Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros8. !Uno! - Green Day9. Celebration Rock - Japandroids10. Psychedelic Pill - Neil Young and Crazy Horse11. Babel - Mumford & Sons12. Rebirth - Jimmy Cliff13. Old Ideas - Leonard Cohen14. The Only Place - Best Coast15. Locked Down - Dr. John16. Sun - Cat Power17. Born and Raised - John Mayer18. Life is Good - Nas19. Mirage Rock - Band of Heroes20. R.A.P. Music - Killer Mike21. Attack on Memory - Cloud Nothings22. Slipstream - Bonnie Raitt23. A Thing Called Divine Fits - Divine Fits24. Cruel Summer - G.O.O.D. Music25. Sunken Condos - Donald Fagen26. Django Django - Django Django27. Blak and Blu - Gary Clark Jr.28. Bloom - Beach House29. Away From the World - Dave Matthews Band30. 1991 - Azealia Banks31. Red - Taylor Swift32. Hospitality - Hospitality33. Visions - Grime34. Boys & Girls - Alabama Shakes35. Shields - Grizzly Bear36. The Bravest Man in the Universe - Bobby Womack37. Nothing's Gonna Change the Way You Feel About Me Now - Justin Townes Earl38. Local Business - Titus Andronicus39. Gossamer - Passion Pit40. Escort - Escort41. The Carpenter - The Avett Brothers42. Europe - Allo Darlin'43. Some Nights - fun.44. Not Your Kind of People - Garbage45. Rich Forever - Rick Ross46. The 2nd Law - Muse47. Agnostic Hymns and Stoner Fables - Todd Snider48. Oceania - The Smashing Pumpkins49. Folila - Amadou and Mariam50. Swing Lo Magellan - Dirty Projectors
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
haha someone else gets the Cruel Summer gasface
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
No Lame Impala in there afaics
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
I like the idea of Band of Heroes. Are they some Tea Party answer to Band of Horses?
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
nice to see Grime on a 2012 list, didn't know if that stuff was still being made
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
No XX or ZZ on that list either
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
30. 1991 - Azealia Banks
this is a four-track EP, one song of which was her big 2011 hit. how in the world is this being classed alongside albums.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Still super curious about that Dr John album
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
The next installment of the Fact list is up and starts here if anyone cares:http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/03/the-50-best-albums-of-2012/22/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
eh if an EP has more than 3 songs i think it's fair game for album lists
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol i think there are maybe 3 albums in the entire fact list so far i rate, and a great deal that i hate
also finding out that the price i pay for getting excited about so many of my favs making it into the guardian's 40-11 is being underwhelmed by the top 10
i siiiiiigh
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
The Wire list has landed:
1. Laurel Halo - Quarantine2. Sun Araw & M Geddes Gengras meet the Congos - Icon Give Thank3. Actress - RIP4. Jakob Ullmann - Fremde Zeit - Addendum5. Jason Lescalleet - Songs About Nothing6. CC Hennix & The Chora(s)san Time-Court Mirage - Live at the Grimm Museum 17. Bob Dylan - Tempest8. Julia Holter - Ekstasis9. Carter Tutti Void - Transverse10. Ricardo Villalobos - Dependent and Happy11. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch12. Josephine Foster - Blood Rushing13. Fushitsusha - Mabushii Itazura Na Inori14. Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi - Imikuzushi15. Death Grips - The Money Store16. Emptyset - Medium17. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful18. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems19. V/A - Wandelweiser und so Weiter20. Morton Feldman - Crippled Symmetry: At June in Buffalo21. Richard Skelton - Verse of Birds22. The Bohman Brothers - Back on the Streets23. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city24. Michael Pisaro and Toshiya Tsunoda - Crosshatches25. Bass Clef - Reeling Skullways26. Aaron Dilloway - Modern Jester27. Killer Mike - RAP Music28. Shackleton - The Drawbar Organ/Music for the Quiet Hour29. Rhodri Davies - Wound Response30. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Mature Themes31. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers32. Thomas Koner - Novaya Zemlya33. Annea Lockwood - In our Name34. Earth - Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light II35. Lee Gamble - Diversions 1994-199636. Heatsick - Deviation37. Duane Pitre - Feel Free38. Raime - Quarter Turns over a Living Line39. Swans - The Seer40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh41. Cooly G - Playin' Me42. Traxman - Da Mind of Traxman43. DJ Rashad - Teklife Vol. 1: Welcome to the Chi44. Charles Gayle Trio - Streets45. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange46. Pye Corner Audio - Sleep Games47. Peter Cusack - Sounds from Dangerous Places48. Pelt - Effigy49. DVA - Pretty Ugly50. Brotzmann/Satoh/Moriyama - Yatagarasu
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
16 minutes long? barely over 10 minutes of new (to this year) material? i think 6 is the minimum of (normal length) tracks i'd want before classing it alongside an album.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha that Passion Pit album is terrible
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
11. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch
wow, review copies way in advance for the whole staff?
18. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems
hurrah
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think it really matters if a record's lead single came out the year before either! that happens all the time!
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
the music being by Azealia Banks is a much bigger issue
Is Rolling Stone the only publication to have rated the Nas album so far? I'm aware I probably like it more than most people here but I thought it would placed in more publications even as a token pick.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
it's in the fact list
it's alright, wouldn't be in my list but it's a lot better than a lot of stuff that is ending up in these lists
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
It seems both Heatsick and Helm released albums this year I knew nothing about the existence of. Bah.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
The Heatsick one is an EP, I think. It's pretty good!
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Re: The Wire
Surprised at the high Dylan placing. Surprised by the low Swans placing.
Guess it's not a surprise, but happy to see
14. Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi - Imikuzushi
getting a mention, it's killer-diller.
And does anybody know anything about this? Totally passed me by -
40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for posting the Wire list! Top ten for Bob Dylan is the biggest surprise on there for me, but then I haven't heard it or read any reviews of it so there you go.
The Heatsick record is good fun! Have tried the Helm one a few times but it's never really stuck with me.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
It's just a 12" with a remix on the B-side. A-side is a pretty good Senegalese Mbalax track with relatively light production tricks.
Here we go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rPIzyKkuNs
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
The Wire also has a big reissues list - top 5 is Laurie Spiegel/Can/Pauline Oliveros/Don Cherry/AR Kane - and the usual genre lists, but I'll let someone else type those out...
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
That reminds me, it's been a bit disappointing to see no mention of the Shangaan Shake album so far. xp
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Wait a second, according to my calculations, Josephine Foster and Six Organs of Admittance have both made it to exactly one list? I have some questions regarding critical abandonment.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
one list each, not the same listWire and some dad mag iirc?
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
Nice to find out Annea Lockwood released something this year, but I'm going to back to it later. Definitely not morning listening (nor would I expect it to be).
― redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
FACT's top twenty reissues (there's actually forty but i got tired)
20: LAURIE SPIEGEL - THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE (UNSEEN WORLDS)19: PYROLATOR - AUSLAND (BUREAU B)18: PARRIS MITCHELL - ‘ALL NIGHT LONG’ (WICKED BASS)17: DAVID LYNCH & ALAN R. SPLET - ERASERHEAD (SACRED BONES)16: DREXCIYA - JOURNEY OF THE DEEP SEA DWELLER II / JOURNEY OF THE DEEP SEA DWELLER III (CLONE CLASSIC CUTS)15: VARIOUS ARTISTS - STRANGE PASSION: EXPLORATIONS IN IRISH POST-PUNK DIY AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1980-1983 (CACHE CACHE / FINDERS KEEPERS)14: STERAC - SECRET LIFE OF MACHINES: REMASTERED AND REMIXED (100% PURE)13: ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER - RIFTS (SOFTWARE)12: THE BURRELL BROTHERS - THE NU GROOVE YEARS: 1988-1992 (RUSH HOUR)11: CODEINE - WHEN I SEE THE SUN (NUMERO GROUP)10: RAEKWON - ONLY BUILT 4 CUBAN LINX: THE PURPLE TAPE (GET ON DOWN)09: BOB CHANCE - IT’S BROKEN (TRUNK)08: KW GRIFF FEAT. PORKCHOP - ‘BRING IN THE KATZ’ (NIGHT SLUGS)07: PAPERCLIP PEOPLE / PSYCHE/BFC - THE SECRET TAPES OF DR EICH / ELEMENTS (PLANET E)06: CLEANERS FROM VENUS - BOX SET VOL. 1 (CAPTURED TRACKS)05: LEGO FEET - LEGO FEET (SKAM)04: SLEEP - DOPESMOKER (SOUTHERN LORD)03: RUFF SQWAD - WHITE LABEL CLASSICS (NO HATS NO HOODS)02: FRANCIS BEBEY - AFRICAN ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1975-1982 (BORN BAD)01: MONOTON - MONOTONPRODUKT07 (DESIRE)
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
15: VARIOUS ARTISTS - STRANGE PASSION: EXPLORATIONS IN IRISH POST-PUNK DIY AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1980-1983 (CACHE CACHE / FINDERS KEEPERS)
think my friend's dad features on this. unfortunately not my dad though, he was more into free jazz back then.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
I'm listening to it as we speak. Which band?
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure either of those artists are exactly mainstays on EOY lists, though, are they? Guess I could imagine SOoA on The Wire. But I'd be surprised to see either show up on RS or Spin or P4k in any given year.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, that was an xpost to La Lechera.
Nas album is really good, definitely suffered in these lists from coming out the same year as the biggest NEW ILLMATIC hype in ages
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
think it's SM Corporation, xpost
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
on there twice so they must be good
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
431 listeners of Last.fm!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
on not of
xp Thanks for answering my question. Makes sense, also Rangda. I'm glad Wire still has Josephine Foster's back though because she has never disappointed me from one album to the next. She always totally slays whatever she's singing.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:45 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
no i'm pretty sure people just don't care that much about nas anymore
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link