best opening credits of the year, great jimmy gandolf scenes, great Higgins dialogue.... surprised more people arent liking this. the on the noseness of it is really a virtue tbh.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
It's a massive debit.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
it owns
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 1 December 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
It owes.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 December 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
lol now i'll see it
fight the power
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 December 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
yo when the dude is shooting heroin and "heroin" is on the soundtrack, omg, fuck this movie. also it is supposed to be in boston but they filmed it here in new orleans and there's palm trees and shit? hey let's read this terrible stagey dialogue for 15 minutes. obama!
― adam, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it's a very silly movie
― Number None, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
How much Johnny Sack is there is this movie?
― 2 Chain Pizzas (to go) (Eazy), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
he gets a good scene in the beginning
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
shooting it in new orleans was the only on the nose touch i didnt like
yeah i loved this
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
woot
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
ILX : Cosmopolis :: me : this movie
So much of this is so self-evidently terrible.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
great jimmy gandolf scenes
this is sortof the perfect way to express this
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
xpost except McNairy and, yeah, Gandolfini
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
ben mendelsohn was awesome too.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
i wanted to like the movie, and some of the performances were great, but i couldn't stand the clanging DID YOU SEE THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE? desperateness that culminated in the brad pitt speech at the end. i wish the director had just left the obama stuff out after the admittedly great opening credits sequence.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
desperation, i suppose... i don't think desperateness is a word.
enjoyed the slickness of this and mcnairy and gandolfini, didn't really feel much oomph or find any of it surprising. closing speech left me cold. went home and watched Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy again after.
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link
i do agree the last scene is prob the weakest & could similarly prob do w/o the financial crisis backdrop entirely
im just in love w/ the dialogue & integrity of the scenes/plot; where else anywhere in a crime/mob flick nowadays or ever? can scenes breathe & evolve like this w/o like constant "surprises", cuts, nods to the audience idk lots of fantastic performances too
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
also i thought mcnairy was casey affleck this entire movie. ive seen that 'in search of a midnight kiss' thing too, guess he didnt make v much of an impression on me
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
needs its own thread :)
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
OK, even I think an "F" is a little over the top for this:
http://www.pajiba.com/box_office_round-ups/the-8-films-all-time-to-receive-an-f-from-cinemascore.php
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
Another movie that got an A+ from CinemaScore (not mention in that blog post): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courageous_%28film%29
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
i lol'd when the car blew up. then i lol'd when dude had "heroin" on the soundtrack and then that nico song and then the last shooting scene when that fucking like fallout 3 music was playing, and when SPOILERS NOT REALLY ray liotta gets it the blood looks like the blood in the new judge dredd movie, which was 100000000x better
― adam, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Well, Morbs, if this Armond rave (?) doesn't entice you, nothing will: http://cityarts.info/2012/12/05/pitt-beats-clooney/
Killing Them Softly earns a footnote in cultural history for being the first dramatic film to question the Obama cult.Mainstream media reaction rejected Coppola’s summary consequences (including Michael’s repentance), eventually leading to the guilt-free Sopranos—which Obama told Oprah he loved. Bill and Hilary Clinton even emulated that show in a political campaign ad.Given Dominik’s grandiose conceit—featuring anachronistic presidential speeches and ironic pop songs—the film is only a little less hyperbolic than a junkie’s paranoia. This outsider director sees America’s economic woes as a gangster movie purgatory. It’s debatable, but it has a much greater effect than the recession documentary No End in Sight and the drab, socially conscious thrillers Michael Clayton, Syriana, Margin Call. Dominik and Pitt go where those films wouldn’t dare. Putting Obama in the tradition of bought leaders sharpens Killing Them Softly’s pretenses.
Mainstream media reaction rejected Coppola’s summary consequences (including Michael’s repentance), eventually leading to the guilt-free Sopranos—which Obama told Oprah he loved. Bill and Hilary Clinton even emulated that show in a political campaign ad.
Given Dominik’s grandiose conceit—featuring anachronistic presidential speeches and ironic pop songs—the film is only a little less hyperbolic than a junkie’s paranoia. This outsider director sees America’s economic woes as a gangster movie purgatory. It’s debatable, but it has a much greater effect than the recession documentary No End in Sight and the drab, socially conscious thrillers Michael Clayton, Syriana, Margin Call. Dominik and Pitt go where those films wouldn’t dare. Putting Obama in the tradition of bought leaders sharpens Killing Them Softly’s pretenses.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Killing Them Softly earns a footnote in cultural history for being the first dramatic film to question the Obama cult.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
IKR?!
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like he confused 'recession documentaries' there with "No End in Sight".
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
Got his liberal-baiting wires crossed there.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
don't think he knows what "anachronistic" means
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
maybe he meant ironic presidential speeches and anachronistic pop songs
― Number None, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
he means we know O is an asshole shit now
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
That's PRESIDENT asshole shit to you, son
― Gukbe, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/4B/esq-obama-oval-office-0709-lg.JPG
Rooms seemed hotter when he was in them. Rains fell straighter. Clocks slowed. Sounds were amplified.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
Killing Them Softly was pretty bad
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/20/movies/killing-them-softly.html
^p intersting re: sound fx...f/ sounds of norman mailer punching himself apparently
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
the director's name isnt even in the fucking thread title
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
i watched 'chopper' this morning - did v little for me; reminded me of 'bronson', which obv 'chopper' came 1st, but that is prob a better movie in every way i can think of
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
choppers better/less boring
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I've always conflated Chopper and Bronson as well, but prefer the former.
― Simon H., Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
does not compute in the slightest but w/e
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
i talked this up enough that my 62 yr old mom is curious enough to go see it (and im shocked its still playing near her)
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
also im ttly taking out like 4 george v higgins books from my lib over the holidays
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
Eddie Coyle if you haven't already
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
only have seen the film, which is great obv
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
My friend and I thought Killing Them Softly was worth watching, if a little sketchy in its construction. The constant political dialogue was definitely trying to drill in the parallel between criminal economies but it was a little overwrought in that it was mostly an extended implication without really fleshing it out.
It was great to be at a film where people were grumbling about "next time /I/ get to pick the movie, blah blah" on the way out. Hadn't heard that in a while/
― mh, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
political notes the most interesting thing about KMS.
(also from all the Dem whining you'd think they were pissing while the W clips were on)
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link
Gandolfini much less interesting here than in the Chase rock movie, so yeah I'll probably never watch The Sopranos.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link
Scoot McNairy giving one of the performances of the year was the most interesting thing about KMS. The second-most interesting thing was the notion that you would, indeed, bend over backward to side with Armond.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link