it's actually a banging set of hi-nrg turbo folk pop trash, arkan gave it four stars in the observer iirc
― r|t|c, Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:28 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this sounds like the best thing ever
― D-40, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Mixtarum Metallum IV: The 20 Best of 2012http://www.popmatters.com/pm/tools/full/165770
Neurosis - Honor Found in DecayLiberteer - Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your KneesPallbearer - Sorrow and ExtinctionBlack Breath - Sentenced to LifeGod Seed - I BeginRoyal Thunder - CVIThe Secret - Agnus DeiHigh on Fire - De Vermis MysteriisEvoken - Atra MorsMartyrdöd - ParanoiaConan - MonnosTitan - BurnNapalm Death - UtilitarianDordeduh - Dar de DuhWitch Mountain - Cauldron of the WildNachtmystium - Silencing MachineNihill - VerdonkermaanGaza - No Absolutes in Human SufferingUfomammut - Oro: Opus Primum & Opus AlterAMENRA - Mass V
They won't rank them (even though they obviously have the numbers to have pulled out the top 20 as voted by staff) as if they love all 20 equally. Please.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
this is exactly how communist Russia started
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
o do tell, dj mencap!
― t**t, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
this Vatican Shadow album is incredible
I've been in a cave for a while, when did industrial lounge music start happening?
From the equivalent thread last year:
... Are they kidding with this Vatican Shadow track?
― OH NOES, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:09 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean, I am not opposed to ambient but 10 minutes of unimaginative stasis as one of the best tracks of the year is just silly
― OH NOES, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:11 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― toby, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
(Apologies if I have usernames muddled up. Not sure why that stuck in my mind from last year, I think because that FACT end of year round up was when I got into him.)
― toby, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Going back to that to see if I've changed my mind or not
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
ha yeah, it was the fact that this track starts with 4 and a half minutes of undifferentiated synth washes that made me cranky, not so much about the track itself but holding it up in isolation as one of the best tracks of 2011
the tracks on Ghosts of Chechnya get to the point much, much faster, with sound textures I find more appealing, than the homogenously pretty wash going through the beginning of "Whitewashed Compound Stealth Helicopter Crash"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't that sold on him but 'Tehran Oil Pipeline Destruction Plot' was a total party rock anthem.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
Jazz critic Ted Gioia's top 100:http://tedgioia.com/bestalbumsof2012.html
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
I do like that Zita Swoon Group album though the concept (Belgian indie fuxxors jam with musicians from Burkina Faso) might not inspire confidence around these parts. Also good to see the Vijay Iyer and Eyvind Kang albums turn up on a list.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
I still need to check that one out. Lots of non-jazz on his list--he's got Mickey Hart, David Byrne and others there.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Ugh, John Mayer, Galactic
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
There will be a P&J, by the way. Who will or won't vote in it, I don't know, but I'll be tabulating. I'm going to vote, myself, and my tabulation process will definitely be simpler if I don't have to reconcile my votes with anybody else's.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
A Village Voice-run P&J, or can't you say?
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to be mysterious. The Voice will be running P&J. I think ballots are probably going out fairly soon. I don't have anything to do with the editorial side, just the tabulation. (Since the demise of my previous work project I've rebuild the P&J stats for the last few years here: http://furia.com/pjs/. 2012 will be added after the results are published.)
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Who would one talk to about getting back in the ballot loop at P&J? A few years ago I got dropped from the list when the procedure changed, and never bothered to get back on it. It's not life or death, but I wouldn't hate being a voter again.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
i ain't doing no fucking pazz & jop. though i do love glenn mcdonald. if glenn owned the village voice i would totally do one.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure I'll get the invite soon enough. No idea if I'll participate in it or not.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
We need more metal critics voting in P&J. Do it for the bands!
xp Much respect to anyone who listens to 817 new albums in a year, let alone 600 or 400, but I disagree with his statement on the left sidebar, "I believe that the system of music discovery is broken in the current day." Compared to what, pre-internet when we only had a few print publications to recommend stuff? Gimme a break, man.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
Johnny, you can reach Brian McManus via http://blogs.villagevoice.com/email.php?to=3716&author_name=Brian+McManus.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
As for music discovery, yeah. Music "discovery" when I was a kid was my parents' car-radio, plus my friend who had more records than me, plus the statistical possibility that an 8-track from France might accidentally fall out of an airplane and land in my yard.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
I was hit by a Charles Aznavour 8-track from the sky once. It's not a joking matter.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
if p&j were widely snubbed by critics do u think there would be any widespread recognition in the wider press? generally the best thing is not just the results but the essays & analysis, which, if they are handled by the current staff...
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
grimes best p4k album of the year easy bet, so maybe she won't
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Easy bet? Granted, it's harder to predict P4K results than it once was, but I'd be more comfortable saying it's Frank Ocean or Tame Impala.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be Frank Ocean
― Number None, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
there were several pretty great dance albums in 2012. andy stott, michael mayer, voices from the lake, lindstrøm, vatican shadow, smallpeople, blondes. dunno why people didn't rally round them, they certainly should have.
It's always weird seeing people who are invested in dance music have a completely different take on what happened in a year than me. The only one of those I've heard is Lindstrom, which was just alright, but I don't really do techno (especially the drier end), and I'm bored of most house and disco. For me, the dance albums I've loved have been Young Smoke, LOL Boys, Mala, Nina Kraviz, Lone, Silkie & Quest, Terror Danjah, DJ Rashad. Yeah, I know a couple of those fall into the genres I mentioned before, but they seem like pretty different takes on them than what was listed. I'll just never understand what people get out of stuff like Andy Stott or Voices from the Lake.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever,
yes it fucking is .. and you know it ..
― mark e, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
i don't see grimes topping the p4k list yet would be surprised if it weren't at least top 5. my pet theory is that it'll either be kendrick or frank ocean to counterbalance bon iver last year. same reason why i don't think tame impala have a shot (also because their music is pretty bad)
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
rev, by "stuff like andy stott..." do you mean like specifically four-on-the-floor music that would never get played in a club, or spacey headphone electronic music in general?
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
(also because their music is pretty bad)
Well that's, like, your opinion, man.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
And bad music has never been known to top P4k's poll.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
yeah yeah i know but i have a p good feeling about this
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
it's all part of my larger pet theory about how the site is trying to position itself in the new decade, based on editorial & staff choices in the past 2 years
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
just checked out voices from the lake, it was very boring.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
i find it spellbinding when it's late at night or very early on a grey morning or when i'm hungover or ill
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
dance music wise, i think i returned to techno in a big way this year, a lot of what i was into 2009-11 began to really bore me
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
don't feel like reviving an old thread and would just like to state for the record that nothing and i mean NOTHING gets more of a reaction and more show of interest than when i put on an old Kompakt cd in my store. 3 and a half years of people coming in the store and its not even close. i had that first speicher comp on the other day and multiple people had that reaction i'm so used to now: what IS that? or what is THAT? young, old, hip, not so hip. its uncanny. it helps that they sound better than 80% of the CDs i own. i play them all day when i'm in the mood. will never get sick of them. feel kinda bad that i don't keep up with the label. they are the perfect "album" experience even when they are mixes. i love 12 inches too though...
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
scott - my favourite kompakt thing this year is this gorgeous kolombo single...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8KqlTdXkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWXR-99DL20
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
will listen! it helped that i actually used to live somewhere that carried all the CDs and vinyl as it came out. and when we moved i lost track. and i love buying the CDs because of that superior sound.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
Lex OTM about the right setting for Voices From The Lake.
Any state where you're hovering in and out of sleep is pretty great for it too. I was first getting into it while I was in hospital in May and it was perfect.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:59 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My interest in electronic music is very much (but not absolutely) driven by how it works as dance music, and I've never had any interest in ambient or ambient-leaning stuff at all. I can appreciate a couple tracks like that as setting pieces on a more dance-oriented album, but really only as the buildup to something greater. I'd never listen to a whole album in that vein. For non-dance-oriented music, I very much prefer r&b/rap.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
"We need more metal critics voting in P&J. Do it for the bands!"
i don't know if i've ever really considered myself a metal critic, but i'll take it! i mean a dude at a metal mag liked my stuff and it was fun while it lasted. i love metal, don't get me wrong...
my only new favorite metal album is the deiphago album. i'm out of the loop. everyone should buy it though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwQ9g5rW5jg
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
no chance anything but Channel Orange tops P4k's list
― alpine static, Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny how our tastes intersect rev, i'm into almost everything on your list and have a deep interest in syncopated dance music, but my heart is really in that sweet spot where ambient/textural/etc meets dope beats, and i don't really care how they work on the dance floor (i mean i do, but i don't).
that said, anything that could be branded as "ambient techno" doesn't do it for me. i do like andy stott a lot and have no idea how he gets certain sounds, but don't love the new one as much as a lot of people seem to.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
would not vote P&J in a heartbeat if urged by the great old discarded staffers or asked to back some viable alternative but otherwise i just gotta. if everyone stopped voting in P&J the 'protest' wouldn't get any widespread recognition and the only real result would be Pitchfork taking an even bigger piece of the year end narrative pie.
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
what's the script re p&j and why are the voice noli mi tangere?
― jed_, Friday, 30 November 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link