I have more than a lot of time for the quieter Smashing Pumpkins songs - 'Thirty-Three' is one in particular I find to be absolutely gorgeous, but I could never just have the Pumpkins in quiet mode and nothing else. I fucking love 'Jellybelly', fwiw!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
I like 1979, but I actually like Zero better. /shameface
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
Every song on this album is Classic for me (OK, except Take Me Down). Can't wait to hear all the studio ephemera on the deluxe edition. This reissue is ridiculously expensive though.
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
rank the singles?
1979ZeroTonight, TonightThirty-ThreeBWBW
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
Muzzle should've been and almost was a single. Canned when Jimmy got kicked out, 33 happened instead.
http://991.com/newGallery/Smashing-Pumpkins-Muzzle-74899.jpg
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "Muzzle" was a moderate radio hit, definitely wish it had been given a full radio push, some days it is my fav SP song
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
full single push
Bullet With Butterfly Wings is great imo. The whinier the better.
― crüt, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
I even like 'Take Me Down'. Sorry, folks!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
33 > tonight > zero > 1979 > bullet
this is also probably my ranking of the individual discs in the aeroplane flies high
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
'Muzzle' definitely deserved to be a single, in my humble opinion.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
If the world is a vampire, the narrator in Neil Young's "Vampire Blues" must be its maker. Unless the world already was a vampire in Neil Young's song. I do not know the True Blood rules for that scenario.
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
tonight > 1979 > bullet > zero > 33
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
zero > 1979 > bullet > tonight > 33 (which is still great obv)
― crüt, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
1979 > 33 > zero. My preferences are mathematically accurate
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link
I can think of a handful of songs that should've been kicked off of the Mellon Collie tracklist to make room for some of the b-sides instead like Pennies or Set the Ray to Jerry.
― Moka, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
muzzle on conan early 97 is oen of my favorite band on tv performances of all time
― dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 08:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/45282876
AND IN THE EYES OF THE JACKAL I SAY KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-BOOM!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ andy richter, melissa joan hart and james iha chillin on the couch together
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
compared to other horse races like "is it gonna be Mitt/The Artist? is it? it might not be! ...yep, it is" this stuff is an unpredictable thrill ride
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
ugh wrong thread sorry
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
― crüt, Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^ gets it
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
"zero" feels so rigid and restrained compared to their other heavy songs
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
bullet is so much fun. i remember lovin that when i was about 14.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
I love 'Zero' for its compactness.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
Polio, do you hate 'Cherub Rock'?
It's okay, definitely would be on a compilation I'd make of SP, but in my view, much of SP's rawk repertoire is lazy and forgettable. There are exceptions (ironically, "Quiet" is one of them), but generally, I prefer their ponderous songs like "Mayonnaise", "33", and "1979."
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
^
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
Good SP rockers: Love, Bullet, Where Boys Fear, Tales Of A Scorched Earth... But I find a lot of the rockers on Siamese to be pretty drudgeful.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggH5-vLlUQ
Fantastic Four!Don't need no more! (that's ungrammatical)
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
oops wrong thread
but i do think corgan's work on the fantastic four theme song gives the lie to the idea that the uptempo SP work is somehow drudgeful
haha this is a wrong-thread magnet this morning
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'd cut out Love and replace w/ Cherry, altho that song is Corgan-admittedly underdeveloped and 'prob should've been on the album.'
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
13-year-old me LOVED X.Y.U.
― skip, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
i like the flangey effects on Love
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
was that song actually about Courtney Love?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
smashing pumpkins tracks poll might be fun at some point, lord knows they have enough songs to make it interesting
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Love, X.Y.U., Luna, Silverfuck, and Fuck You are all about Courtney Love
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
It amazes me how Courtney Love managed to get through so many prominent figures in "alternative rock"... I mean, you're in a successful band, you probably have chicks throwing themselves at you every night, and you choose to go with Courtney Love? Christ, I wouldn't even touch her with the cock of my worst enemy!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah some people just have no class huh
― some dude, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
I remember a time in my uni days when getting hold of another couple of Pumpkins B-sides was a real thrill--some of their best stuff. Haven't listened to anything they've done from Zwan on, though.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
i burned out on this album, maybe i should revisit it now. loved this record, at the time, but always felt that two disc was too much by the Smashing Pumpkins at one time.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've listened to both Zeitgeist and Oceania in full a couple of times each when they came out, but neither of them really stuck with me and I haven't felt like listening to either album since. Bit of a shame really, because I played the hell out of each of the initial run of Pumpkins records... even MACHINA/The Machines Of God which I still feel has some great songs on it, even if it is a bit overdone.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
even MACHINA/The Machines Of God which I still feel has some great songs on it, even if it is a bit overdone.
my thoughts exactly (specifically glass and the ghost children, wound, imploding voice, everlasting gaze, with every light, try, i of the mourning), can't wait to hear the resequenced reissue with combined MACHINA 1 & 2 tracklist and possible remix of the whole thing.
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
oh is that the plan for those? i would be curious at a chance to hear that stuff in a new light
― some dude, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah those poor defenseless guys at the mercy of Courtney Love, putting bunnies in microwaves.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
xpost:
Is Corgan actually going through with that? I mean, I've heard talk about him wanting to revisit the project and 'do it properly', but do you think that'll actually happen? I hope so, I'd be very interested in hearing what would come out of it...
The MACHINA/The Machines Of God tracks you've listed are mostly the ones I'm particularly fond of - especially 'Wound', 'With Every Light' and 'Glass And The Ghost Children'. I'd definitely add 'Stand Inside Your Love' and 'Age Of Innocence' to the list too.
The three on there that I'm the coldest on would have to be 'Heavy Metal Machine' (I understand it's meant to be colossally heavy, but I just don't think it's much of a song), 'The Crying Tree Of Mercury' (meh), and 'Blue Skies Bring Tears'.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
this is the only place i've seen muzzle love. song rules
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
― fauxmarc, Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:55 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Really? I've always found it to be one of the more favoured non-single tracks from Mellon Collie whenever the album has been discussed elsewhere?
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link