"Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" by the Smashing Pumpkins

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This is by far my favourite Pumpkins album, definitely. I've always been into the excess and sprawl of it.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

I bought the Gish and Siamese Dream reissues. I will buy the Pisces Iscariot reissue when I find it for a good price. '1979' is all time, but I've never liked this album. I should revisit it, though.

Mozzarella i Fieri (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

Weirdly, I've never been as into '1979' as others seem to be, and tend to overlook it a lot of the time in favour of other tracks. This isn't necessarily down to overplay either, because if there was any track off this album that got the hell played out of it here, it was 'Tonight, Tonight' and I still really really love that song. But I guess that's the beauty of this album, there's so much stuff on it that everybody seems to have different favourites.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Smashing Pumpkins are good at the melancholy and quiet stuff. When they rawk, it sucks horribly. Whittle this album down to the quiet stuff and you have a pretty good album. Crap like Jellybelly or whatever needs to die.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

you guys have interesting opinions

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

Polio, do you hate 'Cherub Rock'?

Mozzarella i Fieri (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

1979 was the only track i ever liked, and i never liked it that much. The cover convinced me I had bought some embarrassing prog, so it was filed away in a box where its stayed.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

i seriously can't imagine the life of the person who only likes the quiet smashing pumpkins songs. they probably put salt in their coffee and live in a tent in a tree

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Tristessa, Cherub Rock, Frail & Bedazzled > 1979 >>>> all other quiet pumpkins

Mozzarella i Fieri (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

I have more than a lot of time for the quieter Smashing Pumpkins songs - 'Thirty-Three' is one in particular I find to be absolutely gorgeous, but I could never just have the Pumpkins in quiet mode and nothing else. I fucking love 'Jellybelly', fwiw!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

I like 1979, but I actually like Zero better. /shameface

super perv powder (Phil D.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

Every song on this album is Classic for me (OK, except Take Me Down). Can't wait to hear all the studio ephemera on the deluxe edition. This reissue is ridiculously expensive though.

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

rank the singles?

1979
Zero
Tonight, Tonight
Thirty-Three
BWBW

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Muzzle should've been and almost was a single. Canned when Jimmy got kicked out, 33 happened instead.

http://991.com/newGallery/Smashing-Pumpkins-Muzzle-74899.jpg

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah "Muzzle" was a moderate radio hit, definitely wish it had been given a full radio push, some days it is my fav SP song

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

full single push

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

Bullet With Butterfly Wings is great imo. The whinier the better.

crüt, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

I even like 'Take Me Down'. Sorry, folks!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

33 > tonight > zero > 1979 > bullet

this is also probably my ranking of the individual discs in the aeroplane flies high

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

'Muzzle' definitely deserved to be a single, in my humble opinion.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link

If the world is a vampire, the narrator in Neil Young's "Vampire Blues" must be its maker. Unless the world already was a vampire in Neil Young's song. I do not know the True Blood rules for that scenario.

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

tonight > 1979 > bullet > zero > 33

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

zero > 1979 > bullet > tonight > 33 (which is still great obv)

crüt, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link

1979 > 33 > zero. My preferences are mathematically accurate

that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

I can think of a handful of songs that should've been kicked off of the Mellon Collie tracklist to make room for some of the b-sides instead like Pennies or Set the Ray to Jerry.

Moka, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

muzzle on conan early 97 is oen of my favorite band on tv performances of all time

dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 08:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://vimeo.com/45282876

dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 08:25 (eleven years ago) link

AND IN THE EYES OF THE JACKAL I SAY KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-BOOM!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ andy richter, melissa joan hart and james iha chillin on the couch together

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

compared to other horse races like "is it gonna be Mitt/The Artist? is it? it might not be! ...yep, it is" this stuff is an unpredictable thrill ride

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

ugh wrong thread sorry

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

zero > 1979 > bullet > tonight > 33 (which is still great obv)

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^^ gets it

super perv powder (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

"zero" feels so rigid and restrained compared to their other heavy songs

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

bullet is so much fun. i remember lovin that when i was about 14.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

I love 'Zero' for its compactness.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

Polio, do you hate 'Cherub Rock'?

It's okay, definitely would be on a compilation I'd make of SP, but in my view, much of SP's rawk repertoire is lazy and forgettable. There are exceptions (ironically, "Quiet" is one of them), but generally, I prefer their ponderous songs like "Mayonnaise", "33", and "1979."

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

^

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Good SP rockers: Love, Bullet, Where Boys Fear, Tales Of A Scorched Earth... But I find a lot of the rockers on Siamese to be pretty drudgeful.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggH5-vLlUQ

Fantastic Four!
Don't need no more! (that's ungrammatical)

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

oops wrong thread

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

but i do think corgan's work on the fantastic four theme song gives the lie to the idea that the uptempo SP work is somehow drudgeful

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

haha this is a wrong-thread magnet this morning

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

I'd cut out Love and replace w/ Cherry, altho that song is Corgan-admittedly underdeveloped and 'prob should've been on the album.'

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

13-year-old me LOVED X.Y.U.

skip, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

i like the flangey effects on Love

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

was that song actually about Courtney Love?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

smashing pumpkins tracks poll might be fun at some point, lord knows they have enough songs to make it interesting

some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Love, X.Y.U., Luna, Silverfuck, and Fuck You are all about Courtney Love

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

It amazes me how Courtney Love managed to get through so many prominent figures in "alternative rock"... I mean, you're in a successful band, you probably have chicks throwing themselves at you every night, and you choose to go with Courtney Love? Christ, I wouldn't even touch her with the cock of my worst enemy!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah some people just have no class huh

some dude, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link


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