Wish the Genesis ones had been included in here too, for posterity.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
tooo easy
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
"Two Hearts" over "Do You Remember."
Most of these are lugubrious photocopies of his early hits. "Hang in Long Enough" is to "Sussudio" what "Steam" is to "Sledgehammer" (but "Steam" is still better).
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
'I Wish It Would Rain Down' by a mile
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
Two Hearts
duh
― ENBB, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
Tough. I'll say ... "Something Happened On the Way to Heaven." Song is solid. Would have made a good Billy Ocean jam.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
Two Hearts is the only one I can imagine listening to for more than three bars or so.
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
And even that is simply a rehash of his "You Can't Hurry Love" cover.
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
This is probably going to spur my long-deferred "Stevie Wonder singles post-Musiquarium" poll.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
"Two Hearts" is better than "You Can't Hurry Love" though: it's got a couple of cool filigrees.
Do it, Eric!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
I'll just pre-emptively vote "Part Time Lover" for Eric's poll.
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Posted it!
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
I refuse to vote in this poll on the principle that all of these tracks are crushingly awful... especially 'Another Day In Paradise'. Yeah, it might be another day in paradise for you, Philip, waking up on your boat to glorious sunshine baking your cueball noggin, pausing briefly from your siesta to compose another heap of dung or to divorce your wife by fax.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
Something Happened On the Way to Heaven
― goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
Adored Groovy Kind of Love as a kid.
― Tim F, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
He'd already two superb homeless songs: "Long Long Way to Go" (one of his best album tracks) and Genesis' "Man on the Corner."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
Torn between Two Hearts (love the bass in this), Something Happened on the Way To Heaven and I Wish It Would Rain Down
I love these songs
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Jeffrey Tambor in IWIWRD's video is A+
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
voted something happened on the way to heaven - a shame philip bailey didn't sing on this. groovy kind of love gets brought up as an example of 'clearly awful phil collins' (popular gave it a 4) but i like it, there's a sparseness to that kind of phil collins adult contemporary (cf 'no one is to blame') that makes them much more charming or at worst more bearable than concurrent hits by michael bolton, etc.
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
"Something Happened..." really needs Philip Bailey.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
i can remember when both sides of the story came out and relatively flopped and it was apparent that this weird unlikely midas run phil collins had had was over. when sears sponsored the tour it seemed all too fitting.http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/shyflea/Phil_Collins_Concert_1994_Tour_T_Shirt_2.jpg=450
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
The Both Sides flop coincided with the dumping of fat white middle-aged men from VH-1 and MTV.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
I can't check now but did ...But Seriously make the New Jersey thread? It sounds like a classic NJ.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
I'd wear that shirt (or is it a hat)
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
that's a weird case cuz there's such a gap between no jacket required and it, w/ so much in that gap - invisible touch, buster. otoh it was much more ridiculously successful that you'd guess by its presence today, even the hits from it that haven't completely disappeared from radio aren't nearly as persistent as the earlier solo or even genesis hits. at the same time i do on occasion hear 'another day in paradise' or 'something happened' whereas i haven't heard anything from we can't dance in twenty years.
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
still hear "Hold On My Heart."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
than you'd guess rather
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
"We Can't Dance" isn't bad. It just so happens that the title track is pretty much the worst thing the band ever did.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
...But Seriously was the #2 album of 1990 here and one of the biggest sellers ever in England.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I would hear the title track, Jesus He Knows Me and No Son Of Mine the odd time.
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
woah i do still hear 'hold on my heart', which is something cuz it wasn't nearly as big a hit as 'no son of mine' or 'i can't dance' or even 'jesus he knows me', it might have something to do w/ being a much much better song than the other we can't dance hits. seems like 'i can't dance' might've been a tipping point for phil.
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
"Something Happened On the Way to Heaven" easily
― some dude, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
'No Son Of Mine' is easily better than any of the songs in this poll!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
no it isn't!
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
actually "Hold On..." was almost as big as "No Son of Mine" (both top fifteen, the former #1 AC) and much bigger than "Jesus" (which peaked in the top thirty).
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
and it's true: even at the time I heard "Hold On My Heart" a lot more than "I Can't Dance" (the only top ten).
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
and as far as he fell from his 80s heights (as did bruce and prince and even mj eventually - only madonna really managed to maintain hot 100 relevance into this century) he still kept having adult contemporary hits for a while longer and up to the end had chart topping albums in the uk.
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
In terms of commercial Phil-led Genesis We Can't Dance could be a New Jersey.
Calling All Stations and PC leaving seems to suggest this
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
aack i read chart wrong on 'hold on my heart'.
― balls, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
From a UK perspective, WCD was a very big deal
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
You can thank Genesis for a mind-boggling stat: every album til WCD they released outsold its predecessor in England.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah afaik they're still the kings of this thread: artists who had a long streak of every album selling more than the last
― some dude, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, November 19, 2012 10:29 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes it is!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
No it isn't!
― I'm okay, Eurogay (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 19 November 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
TELL ME DO YOU REMEMBER
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
"Another Day in Paradise" for supreme Shopping Mall Miserablism
― Andy K, Monday, 19 November 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
The hell with it. Voting "Another Day in Paradise".
― jetfan, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
I Wish It Would Rain Down, with maybe my favorite early 90s Clapton
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link
I was obssessed with Another Day in Paradise as a child. I don't know what I thought he sang instead of blisters in the line "she's got blisters on the soles of her feet"; like, maybe "the shiz"...? I asked my mom what that meant, "the shiz on the soles of her feet".
That was probably one of her first heads' up that I was going to turn out a very strange individual.
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 06:15 (eleven years ago) link
fucking great song
it's sort of amazing the gigantic schmaltzhole Phil Collins fell into post No Jacket Required
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Z-eUmR2bM
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
Video was a bored, eye-rolling Phil meeting with various video directors and trying on their wacky proposed video scenarios! Hilarious meta-commentary on this MTV era where the music has to have pictures to go with it! What'll they think of next??
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
we should poll his solo album covers
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, all sorts of weird stuff in that video. Parodies of the Police and David Lee Roth, the Road Warrior ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
It's like Talking Heads Wild Wild Life.
would vote for Hello, I Must Be Going! because the title is all vaudevillian levity but his facial expression makes it seem more like a suicide vow (xpost)
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
NJR has terrific album tracks.
Soto bracketed out the first couple records here to make us focus on the more overlooked late-80s, early-90s adult-contemporary stuff, I think.
yep
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
Phil/Genesis prob one of the top 10 best singles acts of the '80s, can't believe how many jams Phil turned out
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
omg remember that terrible pseudo-dub remix of "In The Air Tonight"
I was confused because "Who Said I Would?" was a NJR album track; I didn't realize that a live version was later released as a single
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
We've talked about it before, but man, if you include all his assists and non album tracks, from "Against All Odds" to Frida to Philip Bailey to Robert Plant, Howard Jones' lovely "No One is To Blame," John Martyn (!), "Do They Know It's Christmas" ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Plus he had his solo career, Geness, and Brand X (for a bit).
Wow, never realized the "No One Is To Blame" connection before, I saw balls bring it up earlier but thought he was just making a sonic comparison. I love that track.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite Phil story:
Apparently Phil played congas on "Art of Dying" on a session for All Things Must Pass, but there were no congas in the final mix and he wasn't credited on the album. Years later, when he heard that George was remastering ATMP, he mentioned this to a mutual friend. A few days later, a tape showed up in the mail with a note from George saying "is this you"? Phil played the tape and heard a version of "Art of Dying" with absolutely horrible congas, at the end of which he could hear George saying to Phil Spector "let's try it again without the conga player." Phil was mortified. A few days later, George called and asked if he got the tape. Phil started to say George didn't have to embarrass him like that, but George laughingly interrupted and said that it wasn't really Phil's congas, that he had Ray Cooper play really bad congas on purpose and sent it to Phil as a joke, and that Phil's congas were fine. Phil was finally credited on the ATMP reissue.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
He really jolted that song to life; the original is limp as fuck.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
Sing it now, with me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fiba80YVyM
Phil fills come in around 1:30.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol George Harrison was such a bro
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
It's a pretty song. I'm shocked Glee or something hasn't done it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha that conga story is great, <3 george harrison
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
good Phil harmonies too xpost to Josh
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Phil played drums on a couple Taking Tiger Mountain tracks iirc (xp to Josh, is that what you're talking about?)
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Phil played a bunch of drums on "Another Green World,' actually, and a bit of "Before and After Science." Oh, and Peter Gabriel's third album.
Oh, forgot he was playing on all those Clapton albums in the '80s, too. Busy guy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
For those who have never heard Phil in fusion mode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7mYqaMKXA&feature=related
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
What's the song that starts off like it's about to go into Boogie Wonderland?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
is it this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWVvyA9z1c
― balls, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
Soundtrack
Several Phil Collins singles were released from the soundtrack, including "A Groovy Kind of Love" and "Two Hearts", which reached #1 and #6 on the UK Singles Chart, respectively. Both songs were Number One singles in the US.[1] Phil Collins also co-wrote "Loco in Acapulco", performed by The Four Tops for the soundtrack. Two Hearts received an Oscar nomination for Best song in 1988.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-5jxhSNDU
Also production/drums on "Foever Man", "She's Waiting"--which could've used a bit of Buster's ellipses: "Forever...Man" and "...She's Waiting..."
― cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
Is it wrong to love "It's In The Way That You Use It"? It and "Forever Man" are the only eighties Clapton I can stand.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
Popular's take on "A Groovy Kind of Love": http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2010/07/phil-collins-a-groovy-kind-of-love/
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Clapton not even trying here, as per the '80s. And much of his career. But plenty of Phil, Live Aid MVP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyhmA14KXeU
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
Phil Collins Rick Roll!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcBKbu35nPo
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
voted for the one about that guy who coulda saved that other guy from drowning, but di'int, and phil saw it all then at the show he found him
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
Is that "Groovy Kind of Love?"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
that's kinda how this is
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder what other Phil-related polls that ILX can come up with...
TS: The Smashing Pumpkins - Tonight Tonight vs. Genesis - Tonight Tonight Tonight
or maybe... the ILX homelessness extravaganza!
Paul Simon - Homeless vs. Phil Collins - Another Day In Paradise vs. Pet Shop Boys - The Theatre
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
Surely Sting and Bruce have some of those?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
TS: Phil Collins's "Both Sides of the Story" vs. Wyclef Jean's The Eclectic: 2 Sides II A Book
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
late 90s lol
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
although the album was called The Ecleftic, i should point out
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
omg
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
i seriously never noticed that, and i am someone who has repped on ILX for "It Doesn't Matter (feat. the Rock)"
apparently i wasn't the only one either: How many times can you vote in the best Wyclef Jean single poll?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
The Battle Of The Baldies!
Phil Collins vs Billy Corgan vs Michael Stipe vs Sinead O'Connor vs Moby vs Future Neil Tennant vs Joe Satriani vs Midge Ure vs David Draiman from Disturbed
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
That's like the bizarro world Prince's Trust line-up.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
Was going to add the obligatory Bone Thugs/Phil Collins video, but it seems to be off of YouTube.
― Artie Bucco Drummer Type (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
I rank the American top forty singles. How many times can he say he's sorry?
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
would have voted 'Something Happened'. Big tune
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 10 May 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link
ILM loves that one.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it's one of his very best, that. His last truly great single.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 May 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link