sorry guys, i can't go out tonight, i'm making a spoon
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
he's on his third set of hands this week
wooden leg fits real nice now, doesn't chafe at all.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
I initially misread the post as saying that it takes him 8 hours to make a spoon, btw
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
I do kind of wonder how fast he can make them.
"On the other hand, when I make a lop-sided spoon full of hairline cracks that probably won't last a year, I feel kind of meh. But, what the hey; it's still a fucking handmade spoon."
― Aimless, Friday, 16 November 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5961169/unionmade-retailer-of-expensive-fashions-that-are-not-union-made
relevant
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bitlaw.com/source/15usc/1125.html
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not a hunter-gatherer. I buy my food in the shops. I have a rucksack with everything I need for a camp in it: tarpaulin, bivvy bag, sleeping bag, mat, metal cup, coal tar soap and a little nail brush for cleaning. Each day I cut wood, carve spoons, then head into town and sell them in the street for £5-£30 each. You meet so many people: smack addicts heading for their daily fix, other street sellers, beautiful girls who talk to you for ages and buy lots of spoons. The end of the day comes and I feel brilliant.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/2012/mar/16/weekender-barnaby-carder
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gUTjdLuOz0Y/UDt7JnvN0lI/AAAAAAAAAWU/3bmM-STtV3w/s1600/IMGP2575.JPG
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
For November only I'm taking online orders for cooking/serving spoons (minimum order - 10 spoons).
£100 plus £10 postage get's you a mixture of 5 octagonal handled and 5 Roma style spoons. I carve initials on the Roma Spoons (maximum 3 initials). If you make payment before 11th November i will carve the initials for free otherwise they are £1/ character.
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
2 hr workshop (Friday only): “The ten most important knifegrasps in carving. How to use the knife and your body and sharp soul to make functional and beautiful spoons.”
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
that's seems like a lot of waste. I'd rather have a wooden spoon that was carved by a CNC machine and designed to get the maximum number of spoons out of a piece of wood.
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
although I guess at night he probably unpacks his rucksack and nests into that pile of shavings.
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
haha true
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/042Np.jpg
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
lol, 3 days!?
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
I'm picturing an army of Barnabys rambling across the english countryside, doing their best to finish off the deforestation of the UK.
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
SPOONSMITHS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
I'd just roll up with my lathe and kick those dudes asses
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
or just start up HANDMADE SPOONS INC., sourced from chinese factories
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
You don't understand. Handmade is the name of my computer-operated lathe.
― Aimless, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
You don't understand, I mean handmade of death. My english is how you say inelegant.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
my spoon is lathed out of human hands. HANDMADE.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
I keep singing Soundgarden's "Spoonman" in my head but can't come up with an appropriately witty joke to go with that reference
so I'll just put it out there
― dmr, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
There are lots of craftsman skills that would probably be helpful if the modern world suddenly came crashing to a halt, but I'll be the one laughing when I see Barnaby trying to whittle a spoon in the Thunderdome.
― Moodles, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
but you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you find a yoghurt and have no way to eat it.
― fun facts about human waste (Merdeyeux), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.the-rudy.com/images/spoon_can-tee_f.jpg
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
not sure what the deal is with that but it seemed relevant
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
yes, that does say spoon
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
well, it's the canned hands that we'll use to carve our handmade spoons from after the apocalypse
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I was looking for the Can album cover with the giant spoon rising into the sky but then I realized that was actually a wrench and I found that thing instead.
― wk, Friday, 16 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
i can't really summon up the energy to dislike this tbh
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Friday, 16 November 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
also somewhat doubt one man can carve enough spoons even in a lifetime to make any serious effect on our co2 balance
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Friday, 16 November 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
otoh i saw artisanal fair trade condoms the other day, those seemed ridiculous
were they made out of wood?
― Moodles, Friday, 16 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
I hope they were made of sheeps' guts and tied with a little knot at the ends.
― grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Friday, 16 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
okay they're not actually artisanal
Lovers of the World …. Welcome. You have arrived in the divine realm of the French Letter Condom Company, makers of the first FairDeal condoms for courageous creatures who care about FairPlay.We know that French Letter customers are special. You care about protecting yourself and your partner by choosing our superb condoms, made in Germany to the most rigorous standards for safety and reliability.You care about good taste, preferring our gorgeous jewel coloured packets to those other drab little boxes. With such pretty packs, you won’t mind keeping your protection on show.And you care about your world. You probably stock plenty of FairTrade goods in your home already. Now you can enjoy FairPlay in the bedroom too. Because the natural latex used in every French Letter condom is harvested under sustainable and Fair Trade conditions. That means the rubber producers are paid a royalty to help improve their lives.French Letter condoms source latex through FairDeal Trading, the only company in the world paying a Fairtrade premium for latex rubber. What to know what a difference using French Letter Condoms makes? French Letter Fair Deal condoms are for guilt free lovers who want to feel good in every way when they make love.
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Friday, 16 November 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
eventual ecological net loss, on account of the well intentioned but flimsy condoms inefficacy contributing to more humans/consumers/resource depletion
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Friday, 16 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
"The wearer will feel less guilty about exploiting rubber-workers, so he can focus more wholly on his guilt about penetrating another human being for his own pleasure"
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 November 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
been thinking a lot about the concepts of CRAFT and DESIGN, thinking about them as aesthetic values expressed through manufacture & consumption
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
the origin point of this line of thought is this chair
http://media-cache-ec5.pinterest.com/upload/162551867770585438_jycNLBYR_c.jpg
lounge rocker designed by vladimir kagan, with crewel embroidery by his wife erica wilson
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
would sit in
― scott seward, Friday, 7 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
i think design and craft are, at best, inseparable and mutually informed by each other, but there is something interesting, to me, about the tension that can exist between the two
i think of 'pure design' as being rather conceptual in origin -- it starts with an idea and becomes manifest -- expressing a sort of top-down movement from idea to physical form, a sort of emanation from an ideal
whereas i'm thinking of craft moves in the opposite direction -- that it begins with the concrete, in specific materials, technologies, techniques, and procedures -- and seeks to provoke an aesthetic response out of the manipulation of these elemental components
this is by no means a developed argument, just thinkin baot thangs over here
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
you should talk with ari about this next time youre down here, she wrote her senior thesis about the development of the 'mid-century modern' aesthetic (in sweden specifically) -- ie "high design" -- as a nationalist gesture theoretically rooted in swedish 'craft' forms (a process that dates back to late 19th century in vackrare vardagsvara &c.)
― max, Friday, 7 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
one distinction might be that design is a kind of formal language and craft is about technical knowledge?
― max, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
i'd definitely be into talking to ari about this stuff! i think it's interesting how certain elements of craft / craftsmanship associated with the MCM aesthetic are highly prized now -- woodworking, for example -- while others like fiber arts are not -- or if they are appreciated, it's as kitsch
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
it seems like "craftsmanship" is used to describe an inherent virtue of an thing, but to describe something as "looking like a craft project" is derogatory
i don't know if this distinction is gendered somehow but it might be??
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
heh i think its totally gendered
― max, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
also relevant to my thinking about this is the fiber art of diane itter
http://www.imamuseum.org/sites/default/files/mars/82/8202ce20-b56d-49a9-bd0d-5c51d9fac4d1.jpg
these are entirely composed of linen thread, using only double half-hitch knots -- it feels, for me, like there is such a deep intimacy with the materials, it's really quite remarkable. the works are really quite small, but they are dense flat surfaces that clearly express these conceptual flights of color and pattern and movement -- clearly design! -- but the cascade of fringe reveals the elemental components of its crafting
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like "craft project" is an indicator of the "arts and crafts" hobby-horse junk that accompanies "crafting" magazines and indicates an amateur effort. Honestly, it makes me think of scrapbooking, which I tend to associate with suburban housewives.
If you speak to someone's craft, however, it's usually an expression of a skill in creating things, although not necessarily with a polished sense of design. There's a lot of hand-made, functional furniture or clothing that is extremely well-made, but not necessarily with a particular aesthetic. The design seems either cobbled together or inherited.
The combination of craft & design should be highly prized, imo. I love furniture and clothing that is very well-designed, but it's a lot more likely to be factory-made by non-artisans, even if the quality control is very high. I think bespoke suits are probably an example of excellent craft but little design, as many of them are tailored to a traditional template.
Then again, there are plenty of designs that aren't very good or are aesthetically unappealing.
― mh, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link