Gotta Lotta POLLING To Do - ILM Artist Poll #29 - Your HÜSKER DÜ Nominations Thread

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Warehouse is lucky if it's one LP worth of keepers, but the sins are spread equally between Bob and Grant IMO. And my favorite song on the album is one of Grant's.

Antonin Scylla (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

And I find Bob on autopilot utterly unbearable in a way that auto-Grant doesn't quite reach

Antonin Scylla (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

but the sins are spread equally between Bob and Grant IMO.

This is OTM.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Totally! That's because he's better!!
Oops xp

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

This probably isn't the place, but I've never understood the dislike for "Warehouse" - I can only think of two or three songs I would pass over - but two of those three are Grant's songs. When "Warehouse" is great, it's fucking brilliant imo. Just a shame the production's a bit feeble.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

Favourite song on Warehouse these days is probably You Can Live At Home Now. It's probably just as clunky as it is funky, but the way that the sound just keeps piling on is so great. In my mind it feels like the most monolithic vehicle for noise thing they did since Zen Arcade, give or take the odd How To Skin A Cat or Helter Skelter.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

It's one of my favorite band finalés.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

xpost that is my favorite track too. I didn't want to name it in case that constituted an attempt at nomination-influencing.

Antonin Scylla (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

It's one of my favorite band finalés.

never really thought about it that way before, but yeah - final track on the final album. If you gotta sail a ship off into the sunset, you may as well make it a steel-plated battlecruiser.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

full disclosure i once wept on a plane to the last 90 seconds or so of that song

multiple decades of jazz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

aw

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

I read an interview in a short lived music mag with Bob and Grant in the spring of 87, just after "Warehouse", in which they said the album was recorded in the order the songs were issued, and that future developments would be based on the music of side 4 of the album, which whetted my appetite at the time as I loved the direction they were heading. And yes, in the right (or wrong) frame of mind, the last few minutes of "You can live at home" can be utterly devastating.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

I think it was the only time Grant Hart got one of his own songs to either open or close a side, much less the whole record.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

wait so this is a nominations thread? i thought all HD songs were automatically included, or not?

if not, i hereby nominate ALL OF THEM.

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

Same exact thought. They put out so few albums, do nominations apply?

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

Are EPs albums? (For voting purposes)

Mates of 808 State (S-), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

I bet my Grant songs outnumber Bob's 3 to 1

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait i forgot you can live at home is a grant

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

I may do a list of only Grant songs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

My #1 was easy. But figuring out the rest is impossible.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

Took three minutes to come up with a list that is 17 Grant, 3 Bob. All I need to do is determine an order.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

Stanning for "Crystal" here. Scariest drug song this side of "Luv n' Haight." And it's the fucking opening track on their major label debut. Gotta love 'em for that.

mobs of burly teen christgaus (thewufs), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

Here's a scan of my second-ever published review: Metal Circus, from a University of Toronto campus paper, 2/24/84. (Dug it up just for this thread.) Lots of special pleading, lots of adjectives, lots of clunky earnestness and lyric-quoting--I'm quite beside myself. I remember expressing befuddlement to the editor about the photo.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think this is actually a nominations thread. Voting/campaigning here, results next thread.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

But I could be wrong! I'm not the answer guy.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

This is the 1 band I really want to get back together and do a nostalgia tour. They broke up a year or 2 before I got old enough to go see bands play live. Their records have aged so well, too.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

I've wished that too (although I was lucky enough to have seen them in '87), but part of what made them so great was that they'd been playing constantly for a few years solid. It would be difficult-to-impossible for them to get near that level in a one-off situation.

Also, while Bob and Grant hate each other, they hate Greg even more.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

Here are some photos (by Mike Dyer) from a club show in '85 that I saw, a place called Larry's Hideaway:

http://www.thirdav.com/hd_discog/stills/s19850502.html

They played "Ticket to Ride" that night, and it was just the best thing ever. (Scanning faces, not seeing myself.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

Scanning faces, I don't even see the drummer!

Nominations, lobbying, suggestions, throwing-it-out-there's, I don't know what you want to call it. I stole most of the intro from other poll threads.

pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link

What song does Gotta Lotta POLLING to do reference? They have so many Poll-worthy song titles. You're A Polldier, I Apollagize, If I Polled You, etc.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

Also, while Bob and Grant hate each other, they hate Greg even more.

First I've heard this! Why do they hate Greg?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

Books about P.O.L.L.'s

50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link

It's Not Pollculiar
Pollerline

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

I generally refrain from this craze, but: Bob Polled.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

Gran-poll-t Hart

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

Girl Who Polls On Heaven Hill

50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

First I've heard this! Why do they hate Greg?

Supposedly, he wanted 1/3rd of the money despite not writing or singing any of the songs (except for "Everytime"). Grant has mentioned this in interviews, and I think Bob did too in his book.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

Friend You've Got To Poll
Hate Paper Poll
I APollogize
The possibilities are endless...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

First Of The Last Polls

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta Lotta

pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

There is no way Bob and Grant hate Greg more than they hate each other. Grant considers Bob a self-serving compulsive liar who limited the number of songs he could contribute, kicked him out of the band, then spent several of the past years trying to scam the rights to the band's music out of the other members.

However, I have it on some authority that the band has if not buried the hatchet, then has managed to find itself on the same (legal) page, as far as the catalog goes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite line came from Grant (a long time ago) who said "Bob won't get off his high horse and Grant won't get off his horse high."

pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

Quoting Robert Carradine in Go Ask Alice. (Not kidding.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

I could listen to Mould singing "It's a game some say that anyone can play" over that riff for 3000 minutes.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

I generally refrain from this craze, but: Bob Polled.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:23 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Would've also worked for GBV poll.

Mates of 808 State (S-), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

Wish I could vote for "2541" in this. Not complaining, though, I understand why that's a separate thing.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

Would never forgive myself if something like "Helpless" topped a Husker Du poll.

pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't started thinking about my actual 20 yet, but I'm predicting it will break about evenly between Grant and Bob. I think of myself as a Grant fan, but I have a feeling when I really go through the catalog there's going to be more Bob I love than I tend to remember.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

thought i'd post this here

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/575118_10151239675558774_1156480133_n.jpg

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

^grew up with that game

multiple decades of jazz (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

what do i want?
giant plate of food

Descendants lyrics, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-uLTTT3BPc

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

Which is to say, if they had been a band capable of LSR but not of "Books About UFOs," I doubt I would have cared much.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:10 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is OTM.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I think people were more distraught (re that blog) abt Flip Your Wig being the best rated HD record and Copper Blue winning overall.

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Seriously? Copper Blue?

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

HOWEVER
I just remembered that I wrote Bob Mould an embarrassing email fan letter when he first started blogging because I was just totally amazed that I finally had the chance to tell him in actual composed sentences how much his music meant to me. He very graciously wrote back! So I guess I only say "seriously?" because I think Copper Blue fails to represent the masterful variety of his songs even if it's a great pop record.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

It was short, not all that embarrassing. Just super earnest :-/

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it was on a blog called "Stereogum".

I can understand loving Metal Circus more than Zen Arcade (I believe Steve Albini did), but I don't understand having "no interest" in ZA. What lost you?

This is not the right thread for me to really say so!

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

The crunchy hardcore songs on side two of Zen Arcade are the best. Had trouble narrowing it down to just two of those tracks. BEYOND! THE! THRESHOLD!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Zen Arcade re-sequenced as a hardcore EP entirely weeded of tuneful singing = still classic!

Husker Du, What's to Forget? EP

Side A:

Beyond The Threshold
Indecision Time
Pride

Side B:

I'll Never Forget You
What's Going On?

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

"Reoccurring Dreams" is its own hardcore EP.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Pride
a) stupid
b) selfish
c) all of the above
d) priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

xpost on the crunchy hardcore. Totally otm. I used to skip that part back in the 80's, but now find it by far the best part of Zen Arcade. I'd add Masochism World to the "hardcore EP." I'm loving the weird rhythmic thing , and the way it's like half bash-it-out hardcore, but then it's got Who backing vocals in the middle. FWIW, What's Going On was my #1.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

I think people were more distraught (re that blog) abt Flip Your Wig being the best rated HD record and Copper Blue winning overall.

Haaa. FYW is my favorite HD album. And Bob Mould's too, I think!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

(not that we should put too much stock in Cranky Bob's view of anything Du-related.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

xp: "What's Going On?" was my #2.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

@ Pete see you figured it out

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

Thing I love about Pride is the way it sounds like someone is winding up a spring and then letting it spin during each line of the verses.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

Calming Lechera's nerves, I will mention that I voted "From the Gut". High up, even. One of those songs where I can still remember the needle hitting the groove for the first time; my mom's cheapie all-in-one turntable, autumn light streaming through her apartment's picture window, no one else at home.

bendy, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'm too young to have ever seen Husker Du, but did anyone see Dwight Yoakam opening up in 1986?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

A reminder that the deadline for voting in this poll ends in a few hours.

I haven't checked today, but I know as of last night, we had 12-15 ballots submitted.

That said, I'm meeting some family members for pre-Thanksgiving and likely won't be home until 7 or 8 pm CST (0100-0200 GMT). If any ballots trickle in during that time, who would I be to turn them away.

pplains, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

thank you bendy
it's in my top 5!!

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'm too young to have ever seen Husker Du, but did anyone see Dwight Yoakam opening up in 1986?

No, but I saw them in 1987 with The Shamen supporting, bit of a mismatch really.

~ (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

that sounds like a nightmare!

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

Deadline for submissions officially in 15 mins.

pplains, Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

Vote! If nothing else, dilute the impact my ballot has on this, heh.

etc, Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

Just out of curiosity, how is this anyway? A couple of intriguing band/song combinations (Walt Mink, Janitor Joe). I remember seeing this in shops, but never bit. It's not on Spotify...

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Du-Huskers-The-Twin-Cities-Replays-Zen-Arcade/release/752123

dlp9001, Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link

The only one I remember vividly is the Pink Turns To Blue cover which was damn near Bangles' Hazy Shade of Winter Pt. II. I liked it.

pplains, Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link

Exactly 90 songs were submitted and voted upon. I know I said let's do 33, but how about we amend that to 30. It'll still be 33-percent. Ties be damned.

25 ballots were received. If you did not get a response from me, please let me know as soon as possible.

Now.. let's see... hmmm. Anyone here ever used a spreadsheet before?

pplains, Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

Were you able to figure out something? If you're stuck, let me know--I could probably tabulate 25 ballots/500 songs in an hour or so.

clemenza, Friday, 23 November 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Ranked them all at No. 11.

pplains, Saturday, 24 November 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

Seeing that it was a direct and very representative portent of Things To Come (much more so than the one-off Statues, which was very PiL), it seems insane there's no studio recording of Amusement.

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 24 November 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link

Getting geeked for this.

Probably will start the new thread in the morning, Tulsa Time, with the albums and band members. Then begin with the top 1/3 sometime around 1300 CST/1900 GMT.

pplains, Monday, 26 November 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta Make Polls for the Polls I Make - ILM HUSKER DU POLL RESULTS

pplains, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link


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