OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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xp: at least you did not say your life was clucked in ignorance

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

i think my dad might have owned "headhunters" but it also might have been too funky for him

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

and there was experimentation going on in there

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

to be fair discharge would have been too funky for my dad

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

funky discharge is unfair to everybody.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

my parents didn't do enough experimentation to listen to funky jazz

paula boradwell (crüt), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

when i first started listening to jazz my mom just called me maynard g. krebs a lot

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

when i was little, my dad sung me a blood, sweat & tears song every night before i went to sleep.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

my dad played a lot of Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck, James Brown, Steely Dan, The Beatles, Average White Band, Stevie Wonder and Vanilla Fudge

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

claire de lune is used in lullabies

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

my dad's favorite band was yes :'-(

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

I have a friend who teaches a class in criticism and music writing, a post-grad class, and she says the quality of student and in particular their writing is overwhelmingly abysmal. I have a feeling their idea of funk - or jazz, for that matter - may be the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Before the first time I saw Charles Mingus, I thought bass could only be played flat on the ground. But then one day I drove my Hyundai Elantra over to my grandparents house. It was only a three minute ride, but when i pulled into the driveway, there was Charles Mingus, playing the bass upright. Some say he is the godfather of the upright bass. Including me!

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

taste in music and quality of writing don't necessarily correlate; my dad could write amazingly and convincingly about Vanilla Fudge and it would not change the fact that he was lionizing Vanilla Fudge

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, the ability to lionize Vanilla Fudge is an achievement unto itself!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

That would be my assignment if I were teaching music writing: in 800 words or less, convincingly praise Vanilla Fudge.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

(although I'm listening to a remastered version of "You Keep Me Hanging On" on Spotify right now and I'm starting to get it)

also Hurting, you know that "upright bass" is actual terminology, right

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

dan i think i have a project your dad might be interested in

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1828132368/uncool

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard Vanilla Fudge. They fell through the same crack that caught Uriah Heap.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

also Hurting, you know that "upright bass" is actual terminology, right

― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:36 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol of course

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

http://open.spotify.com/track/4R2Zih6jIGEpANAYdFCRaf

the Vanilla Fudge version of "You Keep Me Hanging On", which my dad played to death

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

There should be something called downright bass.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

i'm gonna see my dad in a week or two cuz he's coming down from upstate new york to see the louis hayes trio in brattleboro. he bought tickets online. 2+ hour drive does not keep his 75 year old self from the jazz.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

imo vanilla fudge should not just be heard but seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFabNBveHOk

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

i can't load all, can anyone relink to the post that set off this conversation?

Everybody did shit, art happened! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

some douchebag twentysomething wrote a jazz listicle for a once venerable publication

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

you ain't missin much

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

so I click on this thread and you guys are discussing Vanilla Fudge

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

you know it kinda freaks me out that djp's dad and my dad would have a common point of connection at all and that it would be vanilla fudge

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that Vanilla Fudge video is like a master class in psychedellic stage hamming

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

you know, after watching that video I kind of have to say I'm regressing back to childhood and deciding that Vanilla Fudge pwns

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

wait holy shit @ that video

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

more classic tim bogert o face for u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yl8u2vGuwc

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

^ junior wells' "shotgun"

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

lol junior walker's i mean

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

this article doesn't really chive with me

flopson, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

There's a hilarious line in Townshend's autobio about Vanilla Fudge: "Yes, they were louder than us. But they were still Vanilla Fudge."

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to replace the "laser on" sign that lights up outside of our lab with "At one point, Head Hunters was the best selling jazz album of all time. Be warned though, there is experimentation happening here."

Eccsame the Photon Guys (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

I've performed with Dave Brubeck twice btw, I just wanted to throw that out there </insufferable>

i once delegated the task of buying dave brubeck a six pack of heineken

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that Vanilla Fudge video is like a master class in psychedellic stage hamming

drumstick twirls are A+

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

reading vv now is kinda lol but mostly sad

flopson, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

getting phil freeman vibes from this guy tbh

flopson, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

Rock & Roll is probably my fave Fudge album. great title too.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

from the Rock & Roll era. just mayhem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXvIOKBp1vQ

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

more keyboardists need to flail their left hand when they're not using it

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

at first I thought he was directing the band, and then I realized he was communing with the infinite wonder of an ever-expanding, unknowable universe

also I'm super-impressed that he can flail like that and still support his breath

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

When he would sit down on the piano, he would strike two half notes (notes next to each other that sound awful when played together) to simulate the imaginary notes between the two piano keys.

It's like a game of telephone that started with Hermann von Helmholtz in 1880 just finally made its way to Joseph Lapin, and he wrote down the message.

Eccsame the Photon Guys (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

i really hope that nothing i write ever ends up in this thread.

borntohula, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

write exclusively about vanilla fudge and you will be ok

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

write about vanilla fudge with your right hand while flailing the left

da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link


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