Deftones: Underrated?

ahhhhh this record RULES

R.I.P. Chi Cheng

dang, rip

god bless you all

Rip

didn't even know about the accident or his condition. so sad.

Totally sad. He might have been my favorite. R.I.P.

The only things I know about Deftones are that lots of ilxors seem to think they're pretty good and that once I received this promo sticker in a bag with my purchase from a local record store.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NG-JTVYsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

just from various band promos/interviews that I had read from a decade ago, Chi was kind of what I figured I would've been like had I joined one of the metal bands around here and they'd hit it big: quiet and affable, and just constantly having his nose in a book. I'd read somewhere that he'd been working on a novel...I have no idea if he'd ever finished it or if anything had come of it, but I always thought that was cool...

or, on second thought, maybe not what I thought I wouldve been like, but more what I would've wanted to have been like...I have been in a band before and even at the local level, the whole self-aggrandizing 'rock and roll dream' schtick gets really thick, so opting to be off in a corner reading in the face of all this seems like a very good look to me

xp to hows life: if you're interested in getting into the deft ones I would probably start out with White Pony, followed quickly by Around the Fur...White Pony is def loaded up with great moody goth pop, whereas Around the Fur, which is just before it, has more of a metal vibe. Lots of great tracks on their first one, Adrenaline too: Bored, Root, Engine No. 9. Lots of ppl rep for their last two, and they're dece, but Adrenaline/Around the Fur/White Pony are def canon.

Don't know much about the s/t or Saturday Night Wrist; I've heard lots of mixed reactions to Saturday Night Wrist. I should probably check it out

saturday night wrist is awesome, every song seems on the point of overflow

Only just saw the news. A damn shame.

I didn't really take to Saturday Night Wrist... my favourites are the first one and White Pony.

I quite like Saturday but tbh for me Deftones is one of these bands where having one of their album is enough.

they released a song from the shelved album eros today in honor of chi, it's really gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-x77Tx8xk

nice, warner brothers, you are assholes

Shoulda been more Koi No Yokan talk in here, what a great record.

It is great, this is a good reminder to pull it out again.

akm - what's the story with Warner Bros? I thought the band themselves decided to shelve Eros, is it being held up by the label now or something?

in terms of its release, from what i know eros is an incomplete record that'll probably stay incomplete

anyway yeah koi no yokan is probably their best album

That's what I thought too Brad, wasn't sure what akm was saying.

warner bros took down the youtube of "smile" that the band uploaded themselves for some reason, idk

oh got it

I just had a geek moment and realized that the way the special red edition of White Pony displays the track times but not the titles on the cover is a nod to the packaging of Hum's Downward Is Heavenward.

Anyway I also think the s/t record is underrated, so many jams and probably their two best guitar-free tracks.

i still think "minerva" is their best single. an incredible summary of their aesthetic

Yesss. The production on that album and that song in particular is so ludicrously expansive (expensive).

every few months i'll put on koi no yokan and it's really one of the best records to come out in the last few years and i think i'm really almost 100 percent sure it's better than white pony

GORE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0WakBLNA0k

that is an excellent name for a Deftones album

also some lucky motherfuckers already have a promo stream:

http://i.imgur.com/wA7iQNR.png

damn u B?tter Anders

this is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmt6zN9vOk

"Prayers/Triangles" (3:37)
"Acid Hologram" (4:02)
"Doomed User" (5:33)
"Geometric Headdress" (3:54)
"Hearts/Wires" (6:09)
"Pittura Infamante" (3:01)
"Xenon" (3:11)
"(L)MIRL" (1:45)
"Gore" (4:28)
"Phantom Bride" (7:16)
"Rubicon" (8:07)

Turmoil in the band as guitarist Stephen Carpenter admits to not liking the direction new album Gore took. Good sign, I think, as he also hated White Pony. Although, I would like to eventually hear a Deftones record directed by Stephen.

that was the s/t iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ywGIfv4Mzo

liking this single but I admire fans who can tell most of their songs apart

http://blog.siriusxm.com/2016/03/16/deftones-world-premiere-of-new-song-doomed-user-on-octane/

this is shaping up to sound a lot like diamond eyes. weird

i really like it though

why is everyone too cool for deftones

I am emphatically not too cool for deftones

more like deaftones

can't believe divorcedalcoholicloser isn't on ilx any more

i have time for this band but the idea that the honourable gentleman divorcealcoholicloser flouts in the op, which ive heard repeated often, that they are lumped into nu-metal because of "who they hung out with when they first started" is just wrong: they have rap metal songs, there are a number of sonic similarities to other bad and hated nu-metal peers in their music, espesh in the first two albums, i saw them tour with linkin park and taproot 13 years after they formed the band. just embrace the fact that you like a nu-metal band ffs.

saying "they have rap metal songs" is p misleading though, they've recorded precisely zero of those in the last 15 years

doesn't mean it didn't happen

perfectly fine with considering them the best possible nu-metal band

their music is still wayyy groove-oriented

is REM rap rock because they did a song with KRS One

or sonic youth bc kool thing