Thread of Max Brod Hate

so once I'd thought that q through I stopped reading Kafka

You can't escape the influence of the Brod published (and edited) works on the culture generally, however much you try.

are parents allowed to kill their own children? ; )

yes.

i believe ol' franz would say parents are slowly and unconsciously attempting to kill their children from birth until one of them croaks.

but then he was a whimsical dude.

the only real judge of any work is the person experiencing it, if a single person in the whole human continuum ever receives pleasure from a work then it's worth preserving.

He didn't mean "burn them" burn them, he meant save them to a dvd-rw

can you imagine pharoah tutankhamun's mortification at having his personal effects on display like common bric-a-brac

burn the museums burn them all

i am curious about this property of 'self expression' which allows a man to retain some kind of ownership in his life's work whereby he can destroy it regardless of whether this is a total gain in felicity or utility for the world, i don't know, what if he'd made a bunch of really neat furniture and told brod to burn it

like it seems like the hardline position requires us to believe that aesthetic felicity is of no real benefit to the world / no utility / just a matter of getting our own particular aesthetic rocks off

also i am aware that coming up with counterfactuals is going to be inevitably bathetic -- dear max brod, everything i leave behind me in the way of artisanal bacon mayonnaise i want you to burn untasted ..

he wasn't saying "burn them," he was saying "boo-urns, boo-urns"

btw everyone i fully expect you to nuke every contribution i've ever made to ilx when i croak.

i expect to do so within two to three weeks so get cracking on that now is my advice.

You can't escape the influence of the Brod published (and edited) works on the culture generally, however much you try.

umm...ok? if this is a workaround to "...and therefore, there's no ethical question in the reading of something whose author desired that it not be published" I don't really think it works. If a guy steals a dollar from his friend and later on I'm on the corner begging for quarters and the thief gives me one I don't feel culpable for the theft. BTW have you got a quarter

dying wish of the slash-and-burn mod style godfather

xp

also it's going to be p much impossible for artists to make this request in the present via the pirate bay

aero you claim to hate max brod so much i am beginning to think you secretly love him. it's like moonlighting.

perhaps stet could run a custom script that would auto replace every strongo post in the history of ILX with a choice GARU G post

this is all setting up my three-volume "Tribute to Max Brod" mixtape

He didn't mean "burn them" burn them, he meant save them to a dvd-rw

― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, November 9, 2012 11:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

like one day we're gonna walk in and find you and max brod making out and reading sections of the trial to each other in colonel klink voices.

I'm sure david carradine's dying wish was for someone to burn the rope, mop up his spooge, and arrange him nicely on the bedspread but things don't always work out for dead people

I've only read Blanchot's Death Sentence (and love that book very much), not his theory...my POV comes from what artists often say about their own work.

I can't see how K was the best or "only real" judge - best judgment in this case would have been destruction of the work as soon as it was completed, read over and judged to be unfit for consumption of the entitled population at large.

aero, do you find Brod "annoying"

"it would have been so pointless to kill himself that, even if he had wanted to, the pointlessness would have made him unable." "just shut up and ravish me, you virile czech glory hound."

given all the awful shit people's heirs/executors tend to do their ancestors' works max brod hate seems perfectly reasonable to me

way too many xps

"burn my head" - ted williams to his children
"haha no im gonna freeeze it" - his children

hahahaha

I don't really think it works.

No, I'm just pointing out the reality that even if you wish to keep your hands clean by respecting Kafka's wishes and hence foregoing any reading of the Brod published works, you still live in a society where the ripples from those works have affected countless writers and millions of readers.

I always like to think about the counterfactual that this sitch raises - like how many works of art in fact have been burned, works of art that could have changed the world as much as or more than kafka's unburned work

my favourite thing about that Elif Batuman piece is this Etgar Keret quote:

“The next best thing to having your stuff burned, if you’re ambivalent, is giving it to some guy who gives it to some lady who gives it to her daughters who keep it in an apartment full of cats, right?”

underrated kubrick aspect ratios

how many works of art that are not dramatically burned but just left to moulder in cupboards

how many works of art never leave the artists' ~brain~

unborn zings

No, I'm just pointing out the reality that even if you wish to keep your hands clean by respecting Kafka's wishes and hence foregoing any reading of the Brod published works, you still live in a society where the ripples from those works have affected countless writers and millions of readers.

yeah that's not really...true at all? at least no more so than "a thief stole something and then bought something with his proceeds so if I participate in the economy in any way the ripples from the thief wash up upon mine briny shore" or something

everything is connected

how many chillwave bands were started because of a whiney g. weingarten post on ILM

ALL OF THEM

burn whiney g. weingarten

Ashton Kutcher travels back in time kills max brod and burns all of kafka's work

The Cockroach Effect

aero perhaps you should move to china where the government will be very very happy to burn your work for you

that's nice of them

I was getting into it in high school like most people and then as I got into it I started reading the supplementary stuff in the anthologies about how he wanted it destroyed and I thought about it some and thought "you know what, fuck this, this shouldn't have been published." It seems personally kinda shitty to me to read stuff that the guy who wrote it explicitly did not want to exist, so once I'd thought that q through I stopped reading Kafka.

― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, November 9, 2012 11:16 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i recommend graduating from high school

being an artist means never having to graduate from high school

http://thinkingclub.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sark.jpg

BURN ALL NOVELS AND STORIES

"learn to watch snails" wtf kind of advice is this

乒乓 is a winner itt