The Disco Files 1973-1978, mainly composed of Vince Aletti's weekly disco columns for Record World, a trade magazine - all of them, in fact. Tons of inside dope from a scenester who knew what he was talking about. Has the advantage of the immediacy factor, having been written in the moment. Also works as a reference book, complete with hundreds of contemporary playlists from DJs nationwide.
― Josefa, Thursday, 8 November 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 8 November 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
sounds perfect ty
― flopson, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
Disco Files is great as a time capsule and as a source for obscure track recommendations but it doesn't really draw a narrative or fill out any background on the various characters that pass through the weekly reports. Love Saves the Day is probably my favourite music book ever so I'd definitely say pick that one up first.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Monday, 12 November 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
i would argue that Love Saves The Day imposes a narrative on the raw data presented in Disco Files. well that's a little too strong but LSTD views disco thru a (post) modern lens while DF simply reports what happened as it happened and gains a cumulative shape or forms a rough arc by the end. LSTD definitely fleshes out the personalities of the various characters and is easy/enjoyable to read VS pouring thru DF's myriad details.
bottom line: both great, read em in tandem for the full picture
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 12 November 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
'love saves the day' and 'disco files' are great. i honestly don't like 'turn the beat around' as much as those two but ppl rep for it really hard so maybe im just dumb for preferring LSTD
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
Definitely agree that DF and LTSD work well together and you shouldn't read *just* LSTD to get the full picture, but for me DF has too much "X is a new release by artist Y (who you may remember released Z last year) that has been picked up by DJ A from club B and it's a great 10-minute epic in a Donna Summer style" - an entire week's "file" can be made up of this kind of thing. I at least would have wanted more on the whos and whys if DF had been my entry point.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah once you have the context DF becomes the more interesting book i think but if you're just trying to get a narrative start w/ LSTD
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
ctrl-f "disco files"http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/7967-words-and-music-our-60-favorite-music-books/
crtl-f "turn the beat"http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/7967-words-and-music-our-60-favorite-music-books/3/
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
/shameless
Skimming this thread for some random listening this morning. That Bear Essense track, "The Big Hurt" is so amazing I had to hear it twice! Moroder-ish synths, huge string swells and a very dramatic, over-the-top, showtune-like vocal. It's like Shirley Bassey fronting the Alan Parsons project.
― By the end of my second term, Gingrich said... (Dan Peterson), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
k cool will do this, w/ a heavy youtube supplement for primary sources
― flopson, Monday, 12 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
calling all disco aficionados. I'm listening to a daniel wang mix and I wondered what's the song that goes "devil man, you make a devil woman out of me." and then there's an evil laugh sound or something. other lyrics include: "burns my body...corrupts the mind"
thanks!
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
research suggests that it is "devil woman" by fire and ice, available on this lalo schifrin-produced lp (and on a 12"): http://www.discogs.com/Fire-And-Ice-Fire-And-Ice/master/256361
you might confirm by listening to it at the end of this mix on youtube: http://youtu.be/RHVW2UR6mnU
i did listen to it and it sounded like a wangy track, but i didn't notice the lyrics or evil laugh sound you mention.
― spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
unfortunately that's not the one, but thanks a lot for the effort! you can hear the track here: http://www.mixesdb.com/w/2002-05-22_-_Daniel_Wang_@_The_Speakerteas,_Mazzo,_Amsterdam it's the first track.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 07:10 (eleven years ago) link
definitely not the one! this one, however, is it: http://www.discogs.com/Love-Connection-Hot-Blood-Hot-Nature-Woman/release/1162055
hear it here: http://youtu.be/o1O_chHIuWU
research skillz, bitch.
― spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 07:34 (eleven years ago) link
oh yes, i realize i have listened to this set before. do you know the awesome instrumental party jam with the insistent synth riff coming in around 19:30? been after than one for a while...
― spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
I gotta hand it to you, mate. what keywords did you use?
no, I don't know about that one, sorry.
on related note, why does daniel wang rarely keep the beats matched?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
I assume it's "hot blood?" I thought she sang "hot love"
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 09:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think it's "hot blood". i frequently mistake the lyrics on these jams - for a long time i though madleen kane's "forbidden love" was "gorilla", lol.
in my disc-jocking experience it can be hard to match the beats on these records for a couple of reasons - A) a lot of the jams with live drums vary in tempo dramatically, so you have to ride the pitch control to keep things in time, and B) you can spend a lot of time deciding which jam to play next, and then when you do finally decide you are often in a rush to mix it in during the break of the previous song (cuz you're not dealing with identigroove house or techno records which blend seamlessly together regardless of when you mix in) and you don't have time to get the tempo sorted before bringing the next song up in the mix.
― spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Lol that lyrics indeed sound like "gorilla".
Yeah I get what you mean because I've mixed some disco too but it's as if Daniel Wang doesn't bother to mix tightly. I've listened to unknown DJ's who mix disco way tighter than him, although Daniel obviously triumphs in selection and flow.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think you are right - there are sacrifices made in the mixing dept in the interest of selection, flow, and having a good time. it's tough to party AND mix super tight all the time, haha!
― spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
So I wanted to buy this track called "Takin a Chance On You" by Sticky Fingers which is a very great track but it's not available on my country. So I'm asking anyone's kindness to purchase it for me on iTunes then I will pay it via PayPal and you send the tune via email. I'm sorry if this is not allowed or considered rude but I really need this track. Thanks in advance!
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 9 February 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
; - )
― administrator galina (Matt P), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
wow, thanks a lot! I didn't expect someone willing to do that. I actually had the mp3 but it misteriously disappear! thanks, once again.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
can anyone recommend me some "beautifully campy" songs? in the vein of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n63OnX6LayMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHIL11XxcLwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVciu8ILqWIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1HxxJpqQMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzh_eZJefQg
or basically songs you would expect from the majority of a daniel wang set. thank you in advance.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 10 February 2013 08:54 (eleven years ago) link
other examples:
patrick juvet - i love americaque tal america (forgot the artist)
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 10 February 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link
Check out any of Boris Midney's various projects (Beautiful Bend, Caress, USA-European Connection, Double Discovery, Black Russian, Companion, etc). Here are some choice examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4hEbEkOuw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQNQD_A5SYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7xzXPiC9U
Harmless has been gradually reissuing all of Midney's albums under their "Disco Recharge" series, they're pretty much all worth getting.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
IMO Midney is perhaps the best midpoint between funkier American disco and beautiful Euro-campiness... Plus his music always is always arranged and produced to sound really gorgeous, he's a genius in that department.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Another good band with a similar sound, though a bit more romantic, is Voyage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMYNoR5NHZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HXfRVBh0PI
― Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
As for individual tracks, here are some of my favourites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atd0mg14X1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I4VW0w26SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elgR0l3ld3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYgiO21OXGg
― Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
nice one dl ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/shortcuts/2013/feb/01/disco-dance-edl-google-facebook
― mark e, Sunday, 10 February 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
Not really my area of expertise, maybe some of these fit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhdjgB24Oiwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayT6jd7WHIAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQd2-t36ZkMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMCjnMmT2Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2XD1tQVKC4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3tV_Tm-r6Y
― brogue element (seandalai), Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlkr1oC6Deshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO3upRBV1es
― brogue element (seandalai), Sunday, 10 February 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
thank you, tuomas.
beautiful bend: more campy than beautiful. not my cup of tea.usa-european connection: this is more like it. strings and female vocal: win.companion: lacks hooks to me.voyage: who doesn't like them.mike theodore: possibly a grower. need to listen more.crown heights affair: nice one although doesn't have enough campiness that I'm lookin for.chaplin band: I prefer the italo track that sampled this.ultra high frequency: can't hear any campiness here, at least by disco's standards.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 11 February 2013 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
thank you too, seandalai.
passengers: haha this is one cute song, I like. I guess I'm leaning to european disco like this.musique: it's ok.salsoul orchestra: I'm afraid this is "normal disco"gepy n gepy: this is more like it! also love their "body to body".chocolat: catchy little numbersheila b devotion: well of course. the b-side (dont stop) is great too.thp: great string section there. although to me it's inferior to "who do you love" and "good to you"raoul: too "normal" for me.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 11 February 2013 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
really enjoying "speedy like gonzales" and "kings of clubs" now. do you have more, seandalai?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 11 February 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
So basically what you're looking for is string-heavy disco with (somewhat) campy female vocals, not synth-led disco like Macho?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-78Szx2mJs
What about Erotic Drum Band, is it too normal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH6g3lpPwvg
― Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
We're not too far off Euro pop stuff like Claude Francois, Baccara, Ottawan or Dschinghis Khan at this point...here's Sheila a few years before she hooked up with Chic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0vLXCS6m60
Amanda Lear, obv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8zp4cWix3E
― brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
La Bionda - Bandido
― brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCUJ5N_dAZQ
― brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
Boys Town Gang might be a good choice too? Their "Cruisin' the Streets" is a gay disco classic, and their version of "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" is really beautiful, with some lovely strings.
― Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
yeah good call - described by Peter Shapiro as "perhaps the campest records ever perpetrated on humanity"
― brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
I played it at a friend's wedding, and if I ever get married myself, I definitely want to dance to it. It's so sentimental and gorgeous!
― Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
I always knew a Tuomas wedding reception would include a Boystown Gang needledrop.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
I looked through my disco records collection, here's a few more recommendations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkUEgRru8DU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akp38JIXiZU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Zkw_JYS50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekHQYpI5858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRLDX-hn1Kg
― Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
More tunes, some of these are maybe more campy than beautiful, but I love them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FlF_apwAyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdKyKNBm-B0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EOhaFVw5DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmdD9j-41c0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-7oUFag1s
― Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
you guys never get to complain about the off a molly thread youtube content
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
macho: a really cool track but lacks this playfulness that I'm looking for.erotic drum band: yeah I'm afraid it's a little too normal.sheila b: hmm, a bit too cheesy for me. I guess this is normal-cheesy while I'm looking for quirky-cheesy.amanda lear: same as above, I guess. I think I'm not too comfortable with mainstream big hits.la bionda: sorry I can't stand this. I can tell if a disco song is "too mainstream" and this is one of them.boystown gang: too normal, sorry.peter jackson band: yup, I like this song and fits my criteria.azoto: of course, my fav italian disco group.boots clement: it fits the playful/quirky criteria but I'm afraid there's no hooks that caught me.viola wills: not campy, but it's a pretty nice song.gonzales: one catchy tune but really tries my mainstream tolerability and eventually I decided this is not for me.supermax: didn't do it for me.the immortals: yup, this is huge.andy williams: sorry but I think this is boring.philly usa: just a normal disco tune.harlow: just discovered this a few days ago and yeah it fits my criteria.
phew. thank you, guys.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
some rad tunes I just discovered:
oto gelb - love tragedy in veronahttp://youtu.be/yDYN3JZ6I1Q
mandy b jones - 1234http://youtu.be/AVePxF_pev4
rod - shake it uphttp://youtu.be/1U2F5Mub3Tg
walter murphy - romeo and juliet & mostly mozarthttp://youtu.be/jx9smvsaqwE
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link